[00:00:02]
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE UNIVERSAL CITY, CITY COUNCIL MEETING.COUNCIL FOR QUORUM CHECK, MAYOR FITZPATRICK.
UH, TONIGHT'S, UH, INVOCATION IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER CHANGE.
IS THERE GOING TO BE, UM, PRO TIM? AND I'LL LEAD THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, PLEDGE FATHER AS WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS IMPORTANT MATTERS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE GRANT US YOUR GRACE AND WISDOM.
YOU'RE THE SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.
THEREFORE, WE SEEK YOUR DIRECTION IN OUR DISCUSSIONS.
PLEASE WATCH OVER ALL OF, ALL OF US, ESPECIALLY ANYONE FACING HARDSHIPS AND WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND MILITARY AS THEY KEEP US ALL SAFE.
PGI TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES, AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH AGAINST ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS.
UH, FIRST ALL IS COUNCIL MEMBER GOLDSBY IS ON A WORK FUNCTION, UH, TONIGHT WITH, UH, MARDI GRAS, WITH THIS COMPANY.
SO, UH, TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, APPROVE STEP PARK.
[4. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD]
IS, UM, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO SPEAK ON ANY THAT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY, UH, ON AGENDA.
AND TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGN THAT'S, UH, MR. HABER LINK.
UH, HAPPY PANCAKE TUESDAY, FAT TUESDAY, MARDI GRAS, WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
FIRST OF ALL, IN THE 25 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED IN UNIVERSAL CITY, I'VE MANAGED TO NEVER BE HOME IN MY STREET, HAS BEEN SWEPT.
SO LAST WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME, I GOT TO SEE THE STREET SWEEPER, CLEAN MY STREET.
AND, UH, APART FROM THE OBVIOUS, I FELT LIKE A LITTLE KID WATCHING A GARBAGE TRUCK OR SOMETHING.
UM, I WANT TO COMMEND THOSE GUYS FOR THE INCREDIBLY OUTSTANDING AND THOROUGH JOB THEY DID.
UM, OFTEN ONCE THE STREET IS SWEPT, BY THE TIME I GET HOME, DEBRIS HAS COME BY.
SO I NEVER GET TO SEE IT WHEN IT'S DONE.
I HAD NO IDEA HOW THOROUGH THEY WERE.
NOT JUST CLEANING THE GUTTERS, BUT GOING AROUND DOING THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AS WELL.
SO MANY THANKS TO PUBLIC WORKS AND VERY SPECIFICALLY TO THE GUYS WHO DID THE GREAT WORK.
NOW, THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO BRIEFLY MENTION WAS FIREWORKS.
UM, HAD EVERY INTENTION OF TALKING ABOUT THIS IN JANUARY, UM, BUT GRANDKIDS.
SO, UH, HERE I AM TWO MONTHS LATE.
UH, BUT I TAKE COMFORT IN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO FIND A REASON TO SHOOT THEM OFF ALL YEAR LONG.
SO IT'S STILL KIND OF RELEVANT.
UH, FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M NOT A FAN OF FIREWORKS THANKS TO, UH, A COUPLE OF CHILDHOOD EVENTS.
UM, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT I'M IN THE EXTREME MINORITY, UH, EVERY HOLIDAY THAT SEEMS TO INVITE FIREWORKS.
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE METRO COM FIRE 'EM OFF REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER, UM, STATUTES WE HAVE, UH, WHETHER IT'S A PARTIAL BAN OR A FULL BAN.
UH, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE CONSTANTLY PATROLLING EVERY FIREWORKS CALL.
SO THIS GETS MY CRAZY BRAIN INTO THINKING, IS THERE ANY WAY FOR A COMPROMISE, UH, BETWEEN SAFETY AND THIS INSATIABLE DESIRE? SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE LOTS OF NOISE.
UM, SO HERE'S SOMETHING THAT I WONDER, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING.
UH, THERE MAY BE ALL KINDS OF LEGAL OR INSURANCE REASONS WHY THIS ISN'T POSSIBLE.
BUT I WOULD LOVE THE CITY TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING, IF POSSIBLE, SORT OF A LEGAL FIREWORK ZONE FOR CITIZENS, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE AT ONE OF OUR PARKS OR POSSIBLY A LARGE OPEN PAVED AREA AT A CHURCH OR AT A SHOPPING CENTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
NOT FOR THINGS TO BE SHOT UP IN THE AIR, BUT THINGS TO BE DONE ON THE GROUND.
UH, THAT WAY THOSE WHO WANT TO DO FIREWORKS BUT DON'T WANT TO BE LAWBREAKERS COULD BE ACCOMMODATED.
UM, AND POSSIBLY EVEN SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE COORDINATED WITH ONE OR MORE OF THE OTHER CITIES AROUND US.
UH, I HAVE NO HOPE OF PEOPLE LOSING THEIR
[00:05:01]
LOVE FOR FIREWORKS.I DON'T FORESEE ME OR ANY OF MY LIKE-MINDED HATERS EVER COMING OVER TO THE DARK SIDE.
UM, SO I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS KIND OF A COMPROMISE WOULD WORK, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION OF IT.
WE'RE GONNA SWITCH IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND DO, UM,
[5. STAFF REPORTS AND OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS]
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT OR STAFF REPORTS FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON INTO, UH, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START WITH HIS AIRCAP PRESENTATION.
UH, MR. AL HAS REQUESTED SOME TIME AGO, AND SO, UH, RANDY IS HERE.
MR. RUBAL GAVE US SOME PARAMETERS THAT HE'D TO, SO RANDY'S HERE TO DISCUSS THAT.
AND ALSO WE HAVE MARK PETERSON HERE AND HE EXPERT IN ESCAPING HIGH LEVEL TALK.
UM, I WAS FORTUNATE TO REACH OUT TO, UH, MR. MARK PETERSON, UH, WHO IS, UH, GRACIOUS TO BE WITH US TODAY TO DO A, UH, PRESENTATION ON ZERO SCAPING AND WATER HARVESTING.
AND HE, HE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ENTER INTO Y'S QUESTIONS THEY ALL MAY HAVE FOR ZERO ESCAPING.
UH, HE, I WORKED WITH HIM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, AS A TEXAS FORESTER IN OUR CITY, UH, LOOKING AT DEALING WITH OUR TREES AND OAT WELL, AND ALSO HE ALSO WORKED FOR SAS.
AND THEN HE'S CURRENTLY, UH, ON THE RADIO WITH CALVIN FINCH EVERY SATURDAY AND SUNDAY ON, ON 9:30 AM SO HE HAS A VARIETY KNOWLEDGE.
YEAH, HE HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE ON CONSERVATION.
I THINK HE'S RIGHT TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION HERE TONIGHT.
OH, I'M GONNA USE THIS ONE 'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS NICE.
UH, YES, I WENT BACK TO THE WAY BACK MACHINE AND I COULDN'T DECIDE IF I HAD SPOKEN WITH Y'ALL 20, 30 YEARS AGO.
WE WERE BABIES OR, OR WAS IT LIVE OAK OR SOMEBODY ELSE DOWN THAT WAY? I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS Y'ALL.
UH, AS MENTIONED, I DID A LOT OF, UH, EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND WROTE SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT, UH, SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES, UH, USE FOR THEIR OAKWELL PRESENTATION, UH, OR REGULATION RATHER.
SO, UH, I EMPHASIZED A LOT OF EDUCATION ON THAT.
AND WHEN I WENT, I, I HAD WORKED FOR THE TEXAS FOREST SERVICE FOR 23 YEARS, AND THEN I WORKED FOR SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM AS THE LANDSCAPE CONSULTANT, AND I HAD MY FINGERS ON OR WAS INVOLVED WITH, UH, EVERY PROGRAM THEY HAD IN THE LAST 17 YEARS.
SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SMALL LITTLE TASTE OF TALKING ABOUT ZEROSCAPE, AND IF Y'ALL WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER ON, OR ANY OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT SAW HAS HAD IN THE PAST, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
UH, SO TONIGHT, JUST WANTED TO JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT ZEROSCAPE AND SOME RAINWATER HARVESTING.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME INTERESTED IN THAT.
SO, UH, DEFINITION, A ZEROSCAPE BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN ABUSED ACROSS THIS WONDERFUL AREA THAT WE HAVE.
UH, DEFINITION WAS WRITTEN BACK IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES BY DENVER WATER.
UH, THEY HAD THE SEVEN PRINCIPLES.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL SEVEN, I'LL JUST CONDENSE IT INTO THREE.
FIRST ONE, UH, DEFINITION OF ZOO SCAPE IS THAT HALF, NO MORE THAN HALF OF THE LANDSCAPE IS IN TURF
SECOND ONE IS THE USE OF APPROPRIATE DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS.
PREFERABLY NATIVE, NOT NECESSARILY, BUT PREFERABLY.
AND THE LAST ONE IS APPROPRIATE IRRIGATION.
SO IF YOU TAKE THOSE THREE, YOU CAN, UH, SYNTHESIZE AND TALK ABOUT ZEROSCAPE ADEQUATELY.
IT DOES NOT MEAN ROCKS, IT DOES NOT MEAN CACTUS.
AND IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT MEAN LANDSCAPE CLOTH.
WE REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT LANDSCAPE CLOTH.
SO, UH, ALTHOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT ZOO SCAPE IS, IS ROCKS AND CACTI OR, OR SOME FORM OF SUCCULENTS, UH, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT AT ALL.
UH, A TRUE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE, UH, ZEROSCAPE IS ONE WHERE NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE YARD IS IN TURF.
THE REST ARE IN BEDS UP WITH APPROPRIATE PERENNIALS, PREFERABLY, UH, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN USE, UH, UP TO FIVE TO 10% ANNUALS FOR COLOR AND THEN APPROPRIATE MULES, WOOD MULCHES, PECAN SHELL MULCH, UH, CEDAR SHAVINGS, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU WANT THAT CYPRESS SMALL AND THEN
[00:10:01]
ADEQUATE AND APPROPRIATE IRRIGATION.A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS MEANS DRIP, UH, DRIP CAN BE MISUSED VERY MUCH.
AND, UH, I HAVE SEEN WHEN I WAS WITH SAWS, UH, AREAS, WHICH I WAS, THEY WERE APPLYING, UH, THREE TO FOUR TIMES THE AMOUNT OF WATER.
AND I WOULD GET TWO LITTLE CRANKY GO, WHAT I GROIN RICE HERE? WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU APPLYING IT FOR? SO, UH, ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE.
UH,
EVEN MY GOOD FRIENDS IN THE GREEN INDUSTRY, THEY'LL SAY THAT.
I SAID, WHEN I USED TO DO THE CALCULATIONS FOR DETERMINING WHAT SAWS WOULD RECOMMEND PER WEEK, AND GENERALLY ONLY FOUR TO FIVE TIMES, IF THAT THREE, WE'LL SAY THREE TO FIVE TIMES A YEAR WAS AN INCH A WEEK, OTHER TIMES IT WAS HALF INCH OR THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH.
MOST OF, MOST OF THE YEAR, IT'S ONLY A HALF INCH OF, OF WATER NEEDS TO BE APPLIED.
AND YOU MAY FIND THESE THINGS ON GARDEN STYLES SAN ANTONIO.COM.
I NO LONGER WORK FOR SAW, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO PROGRAM THAT.
THAT'S GARDEN STYLE, UH, GARDEN STYLE SAN ANTONIO OR SA.COM.
AND THEY HAVE LOTS OF WONDERFUL ARTICLES.
UH, THERE'S SOME GUY ON THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS.
HE HAS LIKE OVER 500 ARTICLES, UM, OVER THE PAST 16 YEARS.
AND FORTUNATELY, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN RID OF THEM.
SO YOU CAN ALL GO IN THE ARCHIVES AND LOOK FOR 'EM ALL UNDER SPECIFIC TAR TARGETS.
NOW, WE ALSO WANT TO TALK, UH, JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT RAINWATER HARVESTING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SOLUTION TO EVERYTHING.
JUST HAVE TO REMIND EVERYBODY, WE'VE BEEN SHORT OF WATER FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO IT DOESN'T, UH, REALLY HELP US.
IN FACT, WE'RE ONLY, WE ARE ONLY ABOUT 60% OF JANUARY'S THIS PAST JANUARY'S AVERAGE HISTORICAL AVERAGE.
AND RIGHT NOW, IN, IN FEBRUARY, IT WAS ONLY HALF THE HISTORICAL AVERAGE.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE RAIN TO MAKE RAINWATER HARVESTING WORK.
UH, AN EXAMPLE, UH, IT'S A GREAT WIDGET THAT I CREATED WITH THE SAN ANTONIO STAFF, SAN ANTONIO WATER STAFF.
UH, YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN FIND THIS ON THE GARDEN STYLE, LET'S SAY.COM, UH, WHERE YOU PUT IN YOUR, UH, SOIL, YOUR LANDSCAPE, SIZE OF YOUR LANDSCAPE, THE TYPE OF LANDSCAPE YOU'LL BE WATERING.
AND YOU PUT THAT IN AND IT'S ALREADY MADE FOR YOU.
I CREATED IT BEHIND THE SCENES.
SO YOU JUST PUT THAT IN, HIT UH, APPLY, AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT SIZE RAINWATER, UH, WHAT RAINWATER TANK THAT YOU'LL NEED TO WATER ALL THAT.
NOW, LET'S BASE AGAIN ON HISTORICAL AVERAGES.
UH, SO THAT, UH, MAY NOT, UH, APPLY RECENTLY.
UH, JUST IN, FOR INSTANCE, IF, IF YOU HAVE AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND YOU APPLY, LET'S JUST SAY, UH, A HALF INCH TO THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH OF WATER A WEEK, YOU'LL BE USING ANYWHERE FROM 1400 GALLONS TO 2200 GALLONS JUST ON ONE WEEK'S APPLICATION.
SO YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE HOW BIG YOUR TANK WILL BE IF YOU WANTED TO STORE THE WATER FOR FOUR APPLICATIONS PER MONTH.
I AM SURE THAT THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY HAS REGULATIONS REGARDING, UH, BUILDINGS IN THE BACKYARDS AND HEIGHTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO THAT.
SO JUST IMAGINE 22,000 GALLON TANK IN THE BACK OF SOMEBODY'S YARD.
JUST SAYING ON THAT, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, PLANTS, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF NURSERIES HERE THAT DEAL WITH NATIVE PLANTS.
AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE, AND, AND A LOT OF THOSE, THE RAINBOW GARDENS MILLBURGER IS WHO I ACTUALLY WORK FOR ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, POLLINATOR IS ONE DOWN HERE IN SELMA.
UH, ALL HAVE PLANTS THAT, UH, THAT ANYONE CAN USE OR APPLY, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE POLLINATED POLLINATOR CAPABILITIES.
UH, FOR ALMOST 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
[00:15:01]
THINK THAT WE HELP ALL OUR BIRDS AND BEES AND BUTTERFLY FRIENDS.ACTUALLY FIVE NOW ON BEES, BEES, BUTTERFLIES, UH, BIRDS AND BEETLES, ACTUALLY, BEETLES DO A LOT OF POLLINATING.
AND OF COURSE BATS DO A LOT OF POLLINATION.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A REALLY QUICK PRESENTATION ON THAT.
SAYING YES, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO DO ZEROSCAPE 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
MOST OF THE TIME IN SAN ANTONIO, I HAVE SEEN IT NOT APPLIED APPROPRIATELY.
UM, IE THE ROCKS AND THE CACTUS AND THE LANDSCAPE CLOTH.
UH, SO, UH, I AM IN MY EDUCATION MOON MODE EVERY WEEKEND.
I ALSO DO VIDEOS WITH THE GARDENING VOLUNTEERS OF SOUTH TEXAS, AND YOU CAN SEE ME, UM, IN THESE VIDEOS, UH, GARDENING VOLUNTEERS@SOUTHTEXAS.ORG.
UH, GOING TO, UH, PLACES ACROSS THE CITY, GARDENERS, PRIVATE HOMES, LARGE ESTABLISHMENTS, AND TALKING ABOUT PROPER GARDENING, PARTICULARLY WITH AN EMPHASIS ON SEA ESCAPE.
THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAD, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I OPENED UP, UH, FOR A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM Y'ALL.
WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT MAYBE SETTING POLICY FOR MM-HMM
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A BIGGER UMBRELLA THAN MAYBE I UNDERSTOOD.
HOW DO WE POLICE THAT AND SAY, YES, YOU DID ZEROSCAPE AND ZERO ESCAPE.
UH, SOMEBODY, THERE'S, THAT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION ON THAT.
UM, ON, IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DID, WOULD DO THAT AS PART OF A COUPON SO THAT, UH, IF YOU HAD YOUR, UH, LANDSCAPE IN A ZERO ESCAPE FORMAT, YOU WOULD, AND WE COME OUT AND CHECK AND WE PROVIDE YOU WITH A COUPON AT ONE OF THE PARTICIPATING NURSERIES SO THAT IT WAS VOLUNTEER IN OTHER WORDS, ON THAT.
AND, UH, REQUIRE AN INSPECTION FROM SOMEBODY, IT, IT WOULD, UH, IT GENERALLY INQUIRES INSPECTION.
ALTHOUGH WE, UH, I SPENT 17 YEARS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WASTE THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE ALL OVER TOWN.
SO, POSSIBILITY WITH, UH, PHOTOS, UM, I KNOW SAWS HAS MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION.
I STILL THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FINAL INSPECTION, UH, ON SITE.
BUT, UH, I THINK THEY ARE USING PHOTOS RIGHT NOW, UM, TO PRE-APPROVE PEOPLE FOR THE LANDSCAPE COUPONS, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S, UH, ONGOING.
IT ALWAYS STARTS ON, UH, MARCH ONE OR MARCH TWO.
UH, DOES ZERO SCAPING SAVE WATER IF DONE APPROPRIATELY? UH, I'M GLAD YOU PUT THE CAVEAT ON.
SO, UH, SAVE WATER AS COMPARED TO WHAT? AS COMPARED TO, SO, SO IF WE HAD A TRADITIONAL ENTIRE YARD OF TURF, UH, YES, IT WOULD BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT WATERING THE TURF AS MUCH AS WHAT IS QUOTE RECOMMENDED ALL THE TIME.
AND SO WITH THE USE OF PERENNIALS, YOU WOULD, UH, REDUCE THE WATER CON CONSUMPTION BASED ON HOW MUCH TURF YOU HAVE AND HOW MUCH OF THE PERS YOU HAVE OR, OR A PATIO.
I, I ALMOST FORGOT THAT, THAT, UH, HARDSCAPE, THERE'S THREE PARTS OF A, UH, OF A LANDSCAPE IS HARDSCAPE PATIO OR DECK BEDS AND TURF.
SO IF YOU REDUCE THE TURF AND INCREASE THE HARDSCAPE AND THE BEDS, YOU WOULD SAVE WATER IF IT WAS DONE APPROPRIATELY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, THEY WANNA WATER ALL THE TIME, EVEN ON DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS, WHICH DO NOT NEED WATER EXCEPT FOR TWICE A MONTH, ONCE ESTABLISHED, UH, THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR THAT.
CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE IN, RANDY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT OUR, UH, THE ABILITY TO SAVE RAINWATER IS LIMITED TO A 5,000 GALLON TANK.
I'M SORRY, WITH, WITH WHO? UH, I, I, I BELIEVE THAT UNDER A CURRENT, UH, REGULATIONS IN THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY, OKAY, WE CAN HAVE A APPROXIMATELY A 5,000 RIGHT GALLON TANK FOR CONSERVING RAINWATER.
SO, UH, I WOULD SAY 5,000 GALLONS, UH, IS SOMETHING TO HELP WATER THE, THE, THE POTS AND THE PLANTS AND MAYBE THE VEGGIES.
IS IT GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THAT PERSON'S WATER BILL? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
[00:20:01]
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PREVIOUS WATER BILL OR THEIR RETURN ON WATER BILL.UH, YOU HADN'T ADDRESSED USE OF GRAY WATER.
SO, UH, AND, AND I SIT ON A COUPLE STATE COMMITTEES OR HAD SIT ON, SAT ON A COUPLE, A COMMITTEES.
WHAT IS USED IS THE WORD ALTERNATIVE WATER.
THAT'S THE BIGGER UMBRELLA GROUP.
SO RAINWATER INCLUDES IN THAT SAN ANTONIO, RECYCLED WATER IS INCLUDED ON THAT.
CONDENSATION WATER IS INCLUDED ON THAT.
GRAY WATER IS UNDER THAT BIG UMBRELLA, ALTERNATIVE WATER.
SO, UH, THE STATE ALWAYS TENDS TO WRITE REALLY COMPLEX RULES.
BASICALLY, UH, THE RULES FOR GRAY WATER ARE THAT, UH, IT CANNOT BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
UH, AND IN SEVERAL OTHER STATE, OR NOT OTHER STATES, OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, THE DISPOSAL END MAY NOT BE CLOSER THAN 10 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IF YOU HAVE IT HOOKED UP TO THE LAUNDRY, AND I SHOULD BACK UP GRAY WATER, LAUNDRY, SHOWER, NON-FOOD PRODUCING SINKS, UH, IT CAN BE USED AND IT CAN BE USED FREQUENTLY.
IN FACT, IT DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE REGULATION OF SPRINKLERS FOR IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
SO YOU CAN USE IT QUITE OFTEN.
THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WITH GRAY WATER, PARTICULARLY FROM THE ASPECT OF THE LAUNDRY.
SO MAYBE YOU'RE USING INAPPROPRIATE SOAP OR HIGH SALTY SOAP, OR HIGH POTASSIUM PHO, PHOSPHORUS SOAP, UH, ON THAT.
UM, MAYBE THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF DEBRIS FROM THE LAUNDRY OR FROM THE SHOWER.
SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO WATCH THOSE THINGS ON IT.
IS IT A POTENTIAL FOR A WATERING THE LANDSCAPE? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, EVEN THE, UH, TCQ HAS HAS CERTAIN VEGETABLES, WHICH YOU CAN USE IT AS.
UM, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, THAT EXACT SITE, UM, OR THE, OR THE VEGETABLES.
GRAY WATER IS ALLOWED ON THOSE VEGETABLES.
ARE THERE GRAY WATER SYSTEMS THAT AUGMENT TOILET FLUSHING? YES.
AND IN FACT, UH, SAWS HAD, UH, PROVIDED A REPAY TO WHAT IS NOW THE UIW TOWERS, FORMERLY THE A AT T SOUTHWESTERN BELL.
UH, BUT THE, UH, THOSE TOWERS ON THE CORN, UH, OR THE, UH, THE AT T TOWERS ON THE CORNER OF HILDEBRAND AND BROADWAY, UH, THEY USED THEIR, BOTH THEIR CONDENSATION AND WATER THAT WOULD FILL THE, THE TANKS OF THE ELEVATORS IN THE SUMP.
AT THAT POINT IN, UH, UH, IN THAT AREA, THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED NON-REGULATED SHALLOW GROUNDWATER.
AND IT'S NOT REGULATED, AND ANYBODY CAN USE IT.
UM, WHAT THEY WERE USING AT T WAS USING FOR THEIR TOILETS, TAKE IT UP TO THE TOP ON THE TOILETS.
I THINK THERE WAS A COUPLE OTHER BUILDINGS MAYBE WERE LOOKING AT THAT.
DID YOU PUT THINGS INTO CONTENT TEXT? ESSENTIALLY, UH, RANDY AND HIS TEAM WILL TALK TO US ABOUT, UH, UH, ACRES OF WATER, FEET, UHHUH YES.
CAN CAN, CAN YOU, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, UH, GIVE US A GENERALIZATION ABOUT THE YEARS USE OF A FAMILY OF FOUR FAMILY? FOUR WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE FEET.
UH, BUT IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE FAMILY, SIZE OF THE LOT, ALL THAT, ALL THAT.
BUT IN GENERAL, THAT IS THE RULE OF THUMB.
ONE ACRE FOOT IS ONE FOOT OF WATER OVER AN ACRE, APPROXIMATELY 325,000 GALLONS A YEAR OR A YEAR, MORE OR LESS.
A FOOTBALL FIELD FILLED TODAY, IT FILLED UP TO A FOOT.
THAT'S WHERE THE ACRE FOOT COMES FROM, IS BUT APPROXIMATELY A FOOTBALL FIELD WITH APPROXIMATELY A FOOT OF WATER ON TOP AGAIN AND AGAIN.
SOME WATER GEEKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WILL, WILL DO IT DIFFERENTLY TO A FAMILY FOUR.
BUT I THINK A FAMILY FOUR IS WHAT WE USE IN TEXAS STANDARD.
AND WHENEVER WE CONSIDER BUILD OUT, AND WE'RE ADDING OUR, OUR POPULATION TO OUR POPULATION WITH APARTMENTS AND SO FORTH.
[00:25:01]
KNOW, OFTEN THOSE FAMILIES DON'T HAVE FOUR.BUT, UH, THAT BEING SAID, THAT, THAT THE GENERAL GESTALT IS WHAT ABOUT A FAMILY FOUR, YOU KNOW, TYPE THING.
SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT INSIGHT.
AND, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A TASTE.
UH, I DIDN'T, I RECENTLY MOVED, AND SO A LOT OF THINGS TURN BOXES.
I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY PRESENTATION IS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY ALL MY INFORMATION IS.
HOWEVER, UH, IF YOU ARE ALL INTERESTED IN THAT, RANDY CAN GET A HOLD OF ME AND WE CAN GET SOME MORE DOCUMENTATION AND, UH, MORE HANDOUTS MAYBE THAT I CAN GET FROM THE STATE, WHICH WOULD EXPLAIN A LOT OF YOUR QUESTIONS ON THAT.
HAVE YOU ADVISED OR SEEN A CITY THAT HAS GONE WITH ZERO ESCAPING UHHUH,
AND IS THERE A, WHEN THE CITY MAKES A COMMITMENT MM-HMM
HAVE YOU SEEN A MEASURABLE RESULT FOR, FOR IF THEY WENT TOTAL, TOTAL PACKAGE? YEAH.
AND THEY WERE, ARE THERE, THEY HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EGG FEET THAT THEY'RE USING IN THE EAR, AND THEY WENT DIRECTLY TO EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD DO.
MAYBE SOME OTHER STUFF THAT COULD LIKE, UH, LIKE THE WASHING, WE USED TO DO WASHING MACHINES.
WE USED TO DO ALL THAT KIND OF, BUT THEY, UH, REALLY WERE AGGRESSIVE.
I'M TRYING, I'M STALLING BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK OF SOMEONE, UH, IN, IN TEXAS WHO MAY HAVE DONE IT.
IT WAS PROBABLY MORE, UM, HATE TO SAY IT, BUT, UH, I THINK CITY OF IRVINE, UH, IN CALIFORNIA, I THINK THEY, THEY WERE REALLY AGGRESSIVE AT IT.
AND I'LL LOOK AND I'LL SAY, AND I'LL, I'LL TRY TO THINK BACK AND GO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ACHIEVED THE RESULTS THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.
AND I'LL BE HONEST, I, THE CITY OF IRVINE'S PROBABLY THE BEST BET.
SORRY, I GET TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.
YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, USING NATIVE PLANTS.
SO IN UNIVERSAL CITY, WE HAVE WHAT WE'LL CALL A VERY HEALTHY DEER POPULATION.
AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE ARE LIKE NATIVE PLANTS THAT ARE DEER RESISTANT.
UH, AND UH, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD HAVE THAT I CAN'T FIND RIGHT NOW,
UH, BUT, UH, YEAH, THERE ARE SEVERAL LISTS OF DEER RESISTANT PLANTS.
NO, I SAY DEER RESISTANT IN MOST NEIGHBORHOODS, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR.
UM, UH, AND RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULD GO SALVIA EVERY SYLVIA, UH, THE LO UM, THE TS, UH, UH, WONDERFUL PLANT CALLED DOTA.
UM, THE REASON IS IT HAS AROMA.
SO MY RULE OF THUMB FOR PLANTS IS, IS IT STICKY, SMELLY, FUZZY, UH, WHAT WAS THE OTHER I HAD FIVE STICKY, SMELLY, THORNY, I GUESS PRICKLY.
SO IF, IF, UH, IF THE PLANTS NEED A PLANTS HAVE THOSE, THAT PROBABLY, UH, WILL DO FINE.
CORA, OR, OR, OR PAIR WINKLE CORA SERIES.
I DIDN'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT, UH, I DID WANT TO LIKE, JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THINGS AND THEN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN, UH, PROVIDE, UH, YOU WITH THE OPPORTUNITY THAT, UH, RANDY AND I CAN GET TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE AND ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
UH, I HAVEN'T DONE IT FOR A WHILE.
I CAN'T, AFTER I LEFT SAWS, I DON'T DO THESE THINGS ANYMORE.
SO I SAID, RANDY ASKED ME, HE SAID, OH, YEAH.
I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU INVITING ME OR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND WE CAN GET IN TOUCH.
WE'LL CLOSE THAT ONE OUT AND WE'LL MOVE OVER TO THE FIVE YEAR BUDGET OUTLET.
I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT, EXCUSE ME, SORRY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
ONCE HE'S MOVED INTO HIS HOUSE, WE'LL CONTACT HIM AND GET COPIES, SOME BROCHURES AND, UH, ABOUT MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AND PARTICULARLY THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHERE THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION PROJECTS.
[00:30:01]
PREFACE THE PRESENTATION WITH, THERE'S ONLY THREE SLIDES, AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY QUICK.WE JUST WANNA GET EVERYONE READY FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO AS WE, AS WE PREPARE FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE, IT'S CRUCIAL THAT THE CITY AND STAFF TO BEGIN TO START PLANNING AHEAD WITH POTENTIAL CHANGES BEING MADE TO STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTING OPTIONS, WE MUST ENSURE THE CITY IS POSITIONED TO MANAGE CASH FLOW FOR FUTURE BUDGETS AND REPLACEMENT OF THE ESSENTIAL PARTS EQUIPMENT.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THE, THE BUDGET, THE WAY THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS PRESENTED? THE MAIN CHANGE WILL BE THAT THE NEW DOCUMENT WILL INCLUDE PROJECTED DATA FOR ADDITIONAL FOUR YEARS.
COUNCIL WILL STILL ONLY BE APPROVING ONE YEAR BUDGET.
AND THEN WHY ARE WE MAKING THE CHANGES TO, TO OFFER A FORWARD THINKING PERSPECTIVE? AND DURING THE BUDGET MEETINGS WE HAD LAST YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTED THAT STAFF CONSIDER PRESENTING A FIVE YEAR BUDGET OUTLOOK.
BUT AFTER CAL, CAREFUL FOR REVIEW, STAFF CONCLUDED THAT THE, THAT APPROVING A FIVE YEAR BUDGET ISN'T FEASIBLE AS IT WOULD RESTRICT THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS' ABILITY TO OFFER INPUT.
HOWEVER, PROJECTING FUTURE BUDGET STILL PROVIDES VALUABLE INSIGHT FOR BOTH STAFF AND COUNCIL.
SO HERE YOU'LL SEE WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU RECEIVE IT.
ALL THE FUNDS WILL HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION.
IT'LL INCLUDE THE HEADERS THAT HAVE SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS BUDGET DOCUMENTS.
WE'LL HAVE PRIOR YOUR ACTUALS CURRENT, YOUR BUDGET, ACTUAL DATA AS OF MARCH 31ST, AND ADDITIONAL PROJECTIONS FOR FOUR YEARS BEYOND THAT POINT WILL BE INCLUDED AS WELL.
SO WHAT'S NEXT? UM, STAFF WILL BEGIN INCORPORATING THE INFORMATION INTO THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, AND THE BUDGET CALENDAR WILL BE PREPARED.
OUR GOAL IS TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH ALL OF YOU FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, AND THEN A MONTH OF JUNE.
AND OUR, OUR AIM IS TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO MEETINGS, ONE-ON-ONE WITH EACH OF YOU FOR THE BUDGETS, UM, PRIOR TO THE BUDGET MEETING IN JULY, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS? IS THIS YOUR THANK YOU.
ACTUALLY, I LIKE THE, I LIKE THE PROPOSAL, UH, FORECASTING OUT FOR, FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL YEARS WITH A, UH, ANTICIPATED PO POTENTIAL TRENDS AND THEN ABLE TO FOLLOW THEM.
WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S SUGGESTIONS, LIKE THE CAPITAL ITEMS NOT BEING BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND SPECIFICALLY TRY TO HAVE JUST MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION IN THOSE.
AND WITH THAT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROJECT OUR FUTURE BUDGETS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO BE.
THE THING THAT WILL BE AN ANOMALY WILL BE SOME OF OUR REVENUES, BUT AT LEAST OUR EXPENSES WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF TARGET AND PLAN FOR PURCHASES.
LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEED, WILL NEED EQUIPMENT IN FIVE YEARS.
SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO PUT AWAY $50,000 A YEAR, THAT FIFTH YEAR, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO PURCHASE THAT, THE ITEMS THAT THEY REQUIRED TO HAVE REPLACED.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL, IS TO GET US MORE ON TRACK.
I PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT I WISH WE HAD THOUGHT BETTER SOONER.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? MS. I I, I APPLAUD.
[6. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
MANAGER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS.I MAYOR, I ONLY HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT THIS EVENING.
UH, THE CITIZEN POLICE ACADEMY IS STARTING UP.
THEIR FIRST MEETING IS GOING FOR THE NEW CLASSES THAT IS, UH, MARCH 18TH.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A COUNCIL EVENING, BUT, UH, THE, UH, CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY PUT TOGETHER THEIR OWN SCHEDULES AND THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS ON OTHER NIGHT, SO THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH THEIR TUESDAY MEETINGS.
BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE POLICE ACADEMY, THEY'RE NOW TAKING APPLICATIONS.
WELL, I'LL START OFF THE ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT.
UH, LAST WEEK, UM, MAYOR PRO TEM AND I WENT TO AUSTIN, UH, TO A SEMINAR ON BASICALLY, UH, PUBLIC POLICY.
THE EMPHASIS OF THE ENTIRE MEETING WAS ACTUALLY, UH, ANTI SCHOOL TAX, BASICALLY, IN A NUTSHELL.
UM, THERE'S A STATEWIDE, THERE ARE DEFINITELY ISSUES WITH TAXING ENTITIES.
AND RIGHT NOW, THE EMPHASIS SEEMS TO BE, UH, POTENTIAL MISUSE OF SOME OF THE, OF, UH, SCHOOL TAXES, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE BEING ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, IT'S JUST THAT, UH, MANAGEMENT SIDE OF IT.
BUT MY CONCERN, OR OUR CONCERN IS THE EMPHASIS ON SCHOOL TAX IS NOT BEING SEPARATED.
THEY'RE LUMPING IT INTO ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES, AND THERE'S
[00:35:01]
A POTENTIAL FOR THE, IN EFFECT, OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE TAXES AT CITY LEVEL.SO I THINK IN YOUR MAILBOX TODAY, YOU'VE GOT A, A FORM LETTER THAT KIND OF, SOME OF THE EMPHASIS OF, UH, ANTI, UH, TAXING, NOT TAKING THAT ABILITY FOR US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MANAGE OUR, OUR EXPENSES.
WE STILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS USED JUST LIKE YOU DO AT HOME.
OUR INCOME, OUR INCOME COMES FROM PROPERTY TAX AND REVENUE TAX.
SO IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MANAGE OUR PROPERTY TAX, THEN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MANAGE OUR PURCHASES.
AND I KNOW IT'D BE REALLY GREAT TO DO AWAY WITH ALL TAXES, AND IF WE CAN CONVINCE SAN ANTONIO TO GIVE US 2% OF THEIR REVENUE TAX, WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WILL GIVE US 2% OF THEIR REVENUE TAX, UH, COVER.
SO SAN ANTONIO IS NOT GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF US HERE.
AND THIS IS THE NORTHEAST PARTNERSHIP CONSISTING OF 13 CITIES NORTHEAST OF SAN ANTONIO.
WE HAVE WALKED TOGETHER TO BASICALLY LET OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS KNOW NOT TO GET INTO OUR BUSINESS.
UH, LATER ON, UH, AFTER THAT TRIP MAY APPROACH HIM AND COUNCIL MEMBER HUT WENT TO AUSTIN WITH THE OTHER MAYORS, AND THEY ADVOCATED FOR OUR ON THAT OFTEN.
I'M GONNA LET THEM TALK ABOUT IT AS IF THIS COMES ALONG.
IT'S A, UM, ENOUGH ON THAT ONE.
WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS, UH, UH, RIBBON CUTTINGS IN THE LAST MONTH.
WE GOT MORE COMING UP, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.
SOME OF THE COMPANIES, THOUGH, HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, SO WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING AROUND.
I THINK TODAY'S WAS, UH, UH, THE FIRST COMMAND.
THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT THEY HAD AN OFFICIAL OPENING.
UH, WE'VE GOT ONE COMING UP TO NEW, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, UH, CLEAN EATS, WHICH IS A NICE LITTLE FOOD CLEANUP OPERATION, WHICH ACTUALLY, IF YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT, IT'S SURPRISINGLY GOOD.
UH, YESTERDAY, I, I KNOW YOU THINK, YOU THINK HEALTHY HEALTHY'S NOT GOOD, BUT ACTUALLY IT REALLY, I THINK IT'LL BE IMPRESSED.
UH, MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PUT, AND MYSELF, WERE AT OLYMPIA, UH, EXCUSE ME, OLYMPIA, SORRY, ELEMENTARY YESTERDAY AFTERNOON IN HONOR OF DR.
I HAD, UH, ONE CHALLENGING INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD A, UH, HIS FAVORITE THING WAS PAINTING.
AND I ASKED HIM EXACTLY, UM, UH, WHAT'S HIS FAVORITE THING TO DRAW? AND HE SAID HE'S AN EXPERT IN DRAWING STICK FIGURES.
I HAD TO SHAKE HIS HAND WITH THAT.
UM, IT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING WEEK, UH, IN GOING TO AUSTIN, BOTH FROM THE POLICY SUMMIT INFORMATION AND JUST KIND OF HEARING WHAT PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT WAS, EVERYTHING WAS IN THE ROOM FROM, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE SECRETARY OF, I'M SORRY, BUT IN FROM WASHINGTON TO OUR AUSTIN, UH, STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO JUST REGULAR PEOPLE.
AND THEY WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
AND IT WAS REALLY NOTICEABLE ABOUT, IT WAS VERY ANTI CITY BECAUSE WE WERE SO LUMPED IN WITH ALL OF THE SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS.
AND SO IT WAS A VERY EYEOPENING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
IT TOLD ME THAT WE NEEDED TO BE ADVOCATING FOR OURSELVES AT THE CITY LEVEL.
ONE OF THE THINGS TOM AND I WERE SITTING WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND TOM CONSISTENTLY ASKED HIM, WELL, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK IT COSTS, LIKE, TO RUN A CITY? LIKE, LET'S JUST BREAK IT DOWN.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WELL, THAT'D BE A LOT.
I THINK IT'D BE LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WELL, WE KNOW FROM MEETING IN HERE, LAST YEAR WHEN WE TALKED, WE APPROVED FOR TO BUY TWO FIRETRUCKS.
THREE YEARS FROM NOW, IT WAS BASICALLY $5 MILLION.
AND SO THERE'S A REAL OUT OF SYNCNESS WITH WHAT THEY THINK IT COSTS TO PROVIDE MANDATORY SERVICES FOR OUR CITIZENS.
I MEAN, LIKE, THAT JUST GETS INTO PUBLIC SAFETY.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL SAFE.
SO I AM DEFINITELY, IT WAS EYE-OPENING FOR ME, AND IT MAKES ME WANNA STAY VERY CONNECTED AND PAYING ATTENTION WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN AUSTIN.
AND THEN WHEN LORI AND I DID GO UP TO AUSTIN THE NEXT WEEK WITH THE MAYORS, WE WENT AND KNOCKED ON DOORS AND SAT DOWN AND TALKED WITH PEOPLE AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES AND LAND USE.
UM, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANTED THEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, TO HAVE A STRONG SAY IN IT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CITY'S LIKE, THEY WE'RE NOT SAN ANTONIO.
WE'RE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF A MILITARY BASE.
SO WE REALLY SPENT TIME AND THEY REALLY SEEM TO APPRECIATE AND RESONATE WITH THAT.
AND WE EXCHANGE CONTACT INFORMATION.
SO LORI AND I, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO SPEND TIME GOING UP THERE IN THIS SPRING.
THERE'S PASSING A LOT OF IMPORTANT LEGISLATION.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF BILLS THAT IMPACT US, AND WE WANNA
[00:40:01]
MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND HOW WE THINK THAT THEY IMPACT THE CITY.BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO ALSO BE PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY IMPACT YOU AS RESIDENTS AND WHAT DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE AT FOR YOU AT THAT SIT DATE LEVEL THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO.
NO, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING GOING UP TO, UH, AUSTIN.
AND WE WERE, WE WERE TREATED BEAUTIFULLY, I FEEL, AND I WANNA THANK OUR DEPUTY CLERK, CITY CLERK FOR GOING, SHE WAS HIGHLY EDUCATIONAL.
SHE REALLY KNEW HER STUFF GOING UP THERE.
UH, KIND OF TALKED TO US AS WE WERE GETTING READY TO GO IN, TALKED TO THESE PEOPLE OF WHAT SOME, WHAT THE GOOD POINTS WERE.
AND SHE WAS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND THAT MADE US VERY COMFORTABLE WITH GOING IN THE SITUATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SURPRISING TO ME WAS THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN AUSTIN AND OUR CITIES.
THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR ZONING.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE A SMALL TOWN, THAT WE NEED TO RENOVATE, WE NEED TO RENEW THAT, WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE SOME ZONING.
THEY ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THIS.
AND THE PROPERTY TAX WAS SOME OF OUR MAIN POINTS.
THEY SAID, UH, AS WE LEFT, BE IN OUR FACE, WRITE US, CALL US, COME UP.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ORGANIZED.
COME UP AND LET US GET TO KNOW YOU.
AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL KEEP GOING UP, BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT MONEY WE HAVE SO WE CAN PAY OUR FIRE, SO WE CAN PAY OUR PUBLIC WORKS SO WE CAN PAY OUR POLICE, PAY OUR BILLS, AND TO BE ABLE TO SAY, IN OUR CITY, WHAT CAN GO WHERE.
THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT A MAP.
THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING UP THERE.
AND IT REALLY WAS AN HONOR TO GO UP AND REPRESENT UNIVERSAL CITY.
MR. I, I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, MR. PETERSON TALKED ABOUT, HE MENTIONED OAK WILL JUST BRIEFLY AND OAK QUOTES SOMETHING I'M ALL, I'M ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT.
I KNOW WE TRY TO DO SOME EDUCATION, BUT IF HE LOOKS AT OUR POLICIES AND SAYS, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO TO MAYBE HELP WITH OAK QUILT, I'D BE REALLY OPEN TO HIS IDEAS ON THAT AS YOU GUYS FURTHER YOUR CONVERSATIONS.
I THINK HE ADDRESSED THAT IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS COMMENTS.
HE HAS BEEN HERE, HE DID
THAT IN HIS BELIEF THAT OAK WIL SHOULD BE ABOUT EDUCATION.
AND SO MAYBE WE'LL SPEAK WITH HIM.
I'M NOT GONNA PUT KATHY ON, BUT MAYBE WE CAN GET HIM TO DO A SHORT VIDEO FOR US THAT WE CAN PUT OUT, OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
TALKING ABOUT OAK WIL, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT WHEN PEOPLE TELL A BLUE ON THEIR FACE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE KIDS THAT REALLY, THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOU, BUT THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO YOU.
BUT MAYBE WE CAN FIND OTHER MEANS OF GETTING THAT
AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT WAS, UM, I, I NOT ALLOWED TO ADDRESS THE AUDIENCE, BUT I DO THINK THERE WERE SOME GOOD IDEAS ABOUT THE FIREWORKS BROUGHT UP.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND TALK TO SEE IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
UM, AND THEN ABOUT MAYBE THE, THE, IF THE CITY CAN SELECT, NOT SELECTIVELY, BUT IF THERE IS SOME FINES THAT CAN BE IMPOSED AND MAYBE THE WORD GETS OUT THAT IF THEY CATCH YOU, YOU MIGHT GET A FINE.
THAT MAYBE THAT WOULD ALSO HELP ENFORCE IT A LITTLE BIT.
SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC THAT LOOKS GOOD WITH, UM, FINE.
AND DO WE ACTUALLY USE IT? YOU GOTTA CATCH 'EM.
WE GIVE A LOT OF LATITUDE ON THOSE, ON THOSE TWO NIGHTS IN PARTICULAR.
HARD TO WRITE ON SOMEBODY'S CORRECT, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN WRITTEN.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ALL, MA'AM.
UH, TODAY, RED FLAG, WIND WARNING.
UH, BASICALLY, UM, WE, UH, RED FLAG DAY AS FAR AS FIRES AND SO FORTH.
SO BASICALLY, UH, WHAT PERHAPS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE IS SOME IDENTIFICATION OF HOW OUR CITY IS, UH, PROTECTING ITSELF, PERHAPS WITH FIRE BREAKS, PARTICULARLY IN THE BLO CREEK AREA, PROTECTING THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT, UH, TO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITHIN THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO, WE HAVE GOT, UH, A TREMENDOUS FIRE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, UH, TYPE THING.
AND, UH, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR THAT.
SO, UH, CONSIDERATION OF OUR UNIQUE SITUATION IN THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF UNIVERSAL CITY ABUTS A, UH, DRY FORESTED AREA, UH, AND HOW TO PROTECT, UH, FROM THAT.
[00:45:01]
SECOND THING IS, PER, UH, PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, UH, RANDY WILL GIVE A ANOTHER FOLLOW UP TO ESSENTIALLY THE CONSIDERATION OF WORKING WITH, UH, CPS, UH, THREE YEAR PROGRAM WAS PROPOSED, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET WITH REGARD TO, UM, UH, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, CLEARING, UH, THE TREES, MAKING SURE THAT THE, UH, POWER LINES ARE, ARE ADEQUATE.I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A THREE YEAR PROGRAM, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT HASN'T ACTUALLY STARTED YET, BUT THERE WERE 120, UH, RESIDENTS AFFECTED JUST IN, IN, IN SHIRTS, UH, TODAY, UH, WITH REGARD TO POWER OUTAGES, MOSTLY RELATED TO, UH, WIND DAMAGES.
AND I, I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE THAT FORMALIZED, UH, IN A FUTURE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THE OTHER THING, THE OTHER COMMENT HAS TO DEAL WITH A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN, UH, COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING AND A 30 AND THE 300.
AND IN THE 35 PLANNING COMPREHENSIVE, UH, UH, PLAN TYPE THING, IT WAS BILLED AS A WORKSHOP, BUT IT REALLY WASN'T EXECUTED AS A WORKSHOP.
IT WAS MORE A SURVEY RESPONSE FOR 15 QUESTIONS.
THERE WAS SOME INTERESTING THINGS THAT CAME UP OUT OF THAT, HOWEVER.
AND ONE WAS A STATISTIC THAT DEALT WITH, UH, HOW MANY OF OUR PEOPLE LEAVE THE AREA PER WEEK TO DO THINGS OUTSIDE.
AND SO AFTER, AFTER THAT MEETING, I, I, I STARTED THINKING, WHY IS THAT? WHY DO, WHY DO I STAY WITHIN UNIVERSAL CITY? WHERE DO I GO HEP, WALMART, CVS AND MY AUTO MECHANIC
AND THEN I THOUGHT, THINKING A LITTLE BIT LARGE, UH, ON A LARGER SCALE, WHERE IS OUR DOWNTOWN CENTER NOW? IT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING.
SO BASICALLY, WHEN WE CONSIDER DEVELOPING DOWNTOWN IN THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LET'S SORT OF DO WHAT THE COLLEGE, THE, THE IVY LEAGUE COLLEGE UP IN THE NORTHEAST DID.
LET'S FOLLOW THE PATH OF THE PEOPLE TO, TO ESSENTIALLY THEIR SERVICE.
AND THIS, AND I'LL THROW IN AND I'LL, AND I'LL THROW IN THE, THE COLLEGE NORTHEAST LAKE VIEW COLLEGE.
TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE GO TO NORTHEAST LAKE VIEW COLLEGE.
WHAT WAS NOT DISCUSSED IN, IN THIS PLANNING AND ZONING WORKSHOP, UH, TYPE THING WITH COUNCIL WAS INFRASTRUCTURE, WASTE MANAGEMENT, ALLEYWAY, AND, UH, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT AS FAR AS RETURNING WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO, UH, THE ALLEYWAYS AND SO FORTH.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WISH WE HAD TIME TO BRING UP.
AND FINALLY, FINALLY, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, LAST MEETING, UH, I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT, UH, THE, THE $25, UH, FEE FOR IN KIND FENCE REPAIR DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, NEITHER FOR THE RESIDENTS NOR THE CITY.
AND BASICALLY, I WAS CHALLENGED ON THAT, RIGHTFULLY SO, AND, AND GOT MORE INFORMATION.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS THE DATA, UH, UPDATED FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT, UH, MICHAEL, UH, PRESENTED.
INSTEAD OF ONE 14, THERE WERE 117 REPORTED $25 FENCE PERMITS NETTING THE CITY A TOTAL OF $2,925.
TO EXECUTE THOSE PERMITS, IT COSTS THE CITY $3,374.
BUT THERE'S A CAVEAT THAT ONLY INCLUDED 52 OF THE 117 INSPECTIONS FOR WHATEVER REASON, PERHAPS ESSENTIALLY A RESIDENT, UH, YOU JUST HADN'T CALLED TO HAVE A RETURN THROUGH THIS OR WAS DOING ONE, UH, ONE SLOT AT A TIME OR WHATEVER.
IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR THAT REPORTING TIME PERIOD, THERE ARE 65 MORE, MORE INSPECTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE.
THAT WILL BE A TOTAL COST SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, UH, UH, 5,584,000 TO $6,494, DEPENDING UPON WHETHER THE CITY INSPECTORS USE OR, OR PRIVATE CONTRACT INSPECTOR.
THE $25 FENCE PERMIT FOR IN KIND REPLACEMENT FENCES MAKES NO SENSE FINANCIALLY FOR THE CITY.
SO I WOULD, I I WOULD, I WOULD ENJOIN, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WRONG WORD.
UH, I WOULD, UH, ASK COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THE A VOTE
[00:50:01]
FOR THIS ON THE NEXT MEETING, AND I'LL, I'LL REST WITH THE COUNCIL VOTE.UH, ARE YOU SUGGESTING SINCE IT'S $25 IS NOT ENOUGH THAT WE RAISE IT UP TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS SO THAT WE MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE? IF, IF, IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO ENTERTAIN TAR AND FEATHER THE RESIDENCE STORE IN FEATHERING PROPERLY? I THINK, I REALLY TRULY THINK IT WAS, UH, IT WAS CLOSED LAST WEEK, RIGHT AT THAT LAST MEETING.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO READDRESS IT NOW.
MR. MAYOR, YOU DID NOT HAVE THE PERCENTAGE.
LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE.
THANK YOU ALSO, MR. MAYOR, FOR YOUR TIME.
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME REAL WELL, SO ARE YOU GONNA STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING? YOU'RE GONNA STAY, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I'M NOT FEELING WELL TONIGHT, MR. MAYOR.
[7. CONSENT AGENDA]
GONNA MOVE OFF TO THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THIS ITEM.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE MINUTE FOR THE LAST, AND I'LL TAKE, UH, MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE A SECOND DISCUSSION CALL FOR THE VOTES.
MAY I APPROACH PATRICK? AYE, COUNCIL MEMBER PUT AYE.
[8. ACTION ITEMS]
SOME ITEMS TONIGHT.UH, ONE IS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT RADIO CONNECTIVITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT BETWEEN UNIVERSAL CITY AND LIVE OAK.
UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS, WE ARE VERY MUCH INTERLOCKED WITH THE CITY OF LIVE OAK, ACCORDING TO THE CHIEF'S RADIO.
UM, AND SO A A LOT OF THE WAYS THAT WE COMMUNICATE WITH THEM ARE OUTMODED.
SO THIS IS TO BRING US INTO THE 21ST CENTURY, UH, TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME DARK FIBER AND TO, TO PROVIDE REDUNDANCY BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES.
AND SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH LIVE OAK TO COME UP WITH THIS, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
I HOPE MY COVER SHEET EXPLAINED IT THOROUGHLY.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, EITHER CHIEF SIEMENS AND I ARE HERE TO, UM, ANSWER THEM.
WHAT IS THE DARK NETWORK OR, YOU KNOW, THE REDUNDANT DARK NETWORK THAT, THAT SOUNDS HOM.
SO, TO BACK UP REAL QUICK, UH, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT, UH, THEIR INITIAL PROPOSAL, RA'S INITIAL PROPOSAL FOR THIS REDUNDANCY WAS $300,000.
AND, UH, JAKE BIERA, CAPTAIN RE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND WORKING WITH, WITH LIVE OAKS, UH, OUR COLLEAGUES IN LIVE OAK, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS DOWN TO THIS, TO THIS MUCH MORE PALPABLE, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNT WITH WHAT I THINK IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, A BETTER SOLUTION ALSO.
SO I WANT YOU, WE WORK VERY HARD TO, UH, TO DRIVE THOSE COSTS DOWN.
SO THE DARK FIBER, SIR, TO YOUR QUEST, TO YOUR POINT IS, BY THE WAY, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
UM, IS THE FIBER THAT'S ALREADY IN THE GROUND AND LAID BUT NOT BEING USED OR LEASED YET.
IT'S, SO, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF INDEPENDENT OF THE FIBER THAT IS BEING USED.
SOMETIMES IT'S IN THE SAME DITCH, OFTENTIMES IT'S NOT.
THIS PARTICULAR SOLUTION WILL BE DIFFERENT.
DITCH DARK FIBER, IN OTHER WORDS, TRUE REDUNDANCY.
SO IF AT AND T'S FIBER, WHICH WE CURRENTLY USE IS CUT THIS PARTICULAR DARK FIBER LAYS IN A DIFFERENT DITCH, LIKELY UNCUT, AND THEREFORE PROVIDING US A REDUNDANCY TO THE MICROWAVE TOWERS THAT WE NEED TO, TO HAVE RADIO USE.
SO ABSOLUTE CRITICAL COMMUNICATION, UH, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND FOR A VERY, VERY LOW COST, UH, RELATIVE SPEAKING.
AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE THIS REDUNDANCY.
THAT'S THE AT AND T FIBER LINE, WHICH IT GOES DOWN.
NOW WHAT WE DO HAVE IS LIVE OAK IS OURS AND WE ARE THEIRS.
UH, THEY WOULD TAKE OVER OUR COMMUNICATIONS FOR US AND WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO EITHER DO PHONE CALLS OR WE WOULD PAIR UP, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME PLANS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PERFORM OUR DUTIES.
UM, BUT THEY ARE MUCH MORE CUMBERSOME.
THIS PROVIDES US A MUCH MORE, WELL, REALLY A FLAWLESS, UH, REDUNDANT, UH, WAY OF TRANSMITTING OUR RADIOS AND COMMUNICATING.
AND WHERE WILL THIS BE BUDGETED? WILL IT BE OUT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR OUT OF THE GENERAL? SO THEY HAVE SEIZED ASSETS, I'M SORRY, SEIZED ASSETS, FEDERAL AND STATE SEIZED ASSETS.
THEY ALSO HAVE, UH, POLICE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY SELL, THAT THEY HAVE GOT THE FUNDING FOR, AND THEY CAN USE ANY OF THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
HE IS MOTION CARRIED, APPROVED.
AND WE HAVE A FEDERATION RENAMING S PARK.
THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, I BELIEVE, BY MR. RUBAL AT A PAST COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, WE, UH, DIDN'T GIVE ANY FEEDBACK TO COUNCIL RIGHT AWAY ON THAT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PARKS AND REC COMMISSION AND ONE OF THEIR JOBS IS DUE, IS THEY OVERSEE PARKS AND THEY OVERSEE THE NAMING OF THE PARK.
[00:55:01]
HARRY WESTERFIELD AND MISS JANET TENNIS HERE THIS EVENING FROM PARKS OF REC.SO THEY DID CONSIDER THIS AT THEIR MEETING.
UH, WHEN WAS YOUR MEETING? LAST WEEK? LAST TUESDAY.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, RECOMMENDED RENAMING CIMARRON PARK IN THE CIMARRON CLUBHOUSE TO NEVILLE PARK AND NEVILLE CLUBHOUSE.
SO THAT IS HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A, A PLAQUE THERE TOO THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THE PARK AND MAYBE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED TO GET IT TO WHERE IT IS NOW.
I I WOULD LIKE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY TIME OR MONEY, UM, WITHOUT COUNSEL'S APPROVAL.
SO WE'VE HAD SOME GENERAL DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE SIGNAGE AND PLAQUE AND DEDICATIONS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL HAVE A BIG SHADO ABOUT IT AND INCORPORATE ALL OF THAT IN THERE.
BUT YEAH, AS WE START MOVING TOWARD THE END OF THAT AND WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THAT, WE'LL LET COUNCIL KNOW.
UM, ALL THE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING TO RENAME IT AND TO GET THE PLAQUE AND STUFF ARE WE THINKING OF, OF NAMING IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA CALL IT NEVILLE PARK AND NEVILLE CLUBHOUSE AND NOT THE RICHARD F NEVILLE PARK AND RICHARD F NEVILLE CLUBHOUSE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE THE INA BLAKE DOG PARK AND WHAT DOES EVERYBODY REFER IT TO AS THE DOG PARK? MM-HMM
AND, UH, IT BECOMES VERY COMPLICATED FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK UP WHAT WE HAVE.
SO OUR INTENT IS TO RENAME THEM, YOU KNOW, ON ALL OF OUR WEBSITES AND THE, AND THE SIGNS THAT ARE THERE.
BUT ON SOME KIND OF A PLAQUE ON THE BUILDING, AS MR. VAUGHN HAD SAID, UH, DEDICATED TO RICHARD F NEVILLE.
AND THEY INDICATE WHY, UH, WE'RE DOING IT FOR THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE MILITARY COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
SO WE'LL TRY TO GET ALL THAT ON A NICE PLAQUE, WHICH WILL GO ON THE BUILDING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
IT IS MY HONOR, UH, GAVEL IN CHIEF MASTER SERGEANT NEVILLE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, NO OTHER COMMAND ADJOURN.