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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.IT'S 6 31 AND CALLING THE UNIVERSAL CITY CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER AND CALL FOR HOME CHECK.
COUNCIL MEMBER V HERE FORM SUPER.
UM, INVOCATION TONIGHT IS GONNA BE GIVEN BY COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN.
NOW YOU NEED TO SEND THE, UH, LEDGE.
DEAR GOD, THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US.
WE PRAY THAT WE CAN LIVE IN A WAY THAT HONORS YOU.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON ALLEGIANCE, TEXAS STATE, GOD, AN INDIVISIBLE.
TONIGHT WE HAVE A RATHER LONG MEETING TONIGHT, SO WE MAY BE TAKING ONE OR TWO, UH, BETH, UH, RESTROOM BREAKS AS WE GO ALONG.
IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE DOES FEEL THE NEED, THEY NEED TO GO TO FEEL, FEEL FREE TO WALK RIGHT ON OUT AND WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITHOUT YOU.
BUT, UH, UP HERE, WE'LL HAVE TO BREAK IF SOMEBODY UP HERE NEEDS TO BREAK.
[4. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD]
FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
YOU'RE ON A, ONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
DID YOU WANT TO? MY APOLOGIES.
YOU WANT WRONG SHEET? OKAY, MY APOLOGIES.
MR. MAYOR, UH, I'M JUST HERE TO EVENING TO, UH, GIVE YOU SOME UNSOLICITED ADVICE REGARDING THE BUDGET AND RATHER THAN TALK FROM THE PODIUM, I DO, IF I MAY, I'LL JUST HAND OUT THIS SHEET AND SIT DOWN.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT MAN? A FEW WORDS, BUT I LIKE LISTENING TO YOU TALK.
YOU STILL HAVE TWO MINUTES LEFT.
ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THESE? PARDON? YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANNA HIGHLIGHT THESE SINCE YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES LEFT? I DON'T BELIEVE IT AS IT IS, AND THAT'S ALL WHERE IT MAY.
THEN I'LL CLOSE OFF CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
[5. STAFF REPORTS AND OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS]
FIRST UP IS, UH, STAFF REPORTS AND, UM, WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, AND ACTUALLY OUR FIRST ONE ON THE PRESENTATION IS THE SARAH RATE PRESENTATION, AND WE HAVE MS. KATIE OVERSTREET, UH, REPRESENTING THERE TO I ALWAYS ABOUT THE SARAH PROJECT.THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I, MY NAME IS KATIE OVERSTREET.
I AM THE CURRENT UTILITIES MANAGER FOR THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, OVERSEEING OUR UTILITIES OPERATION AND OUR SARAH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS OUR SLIDE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL AS WELL AS OUR, UH, OTHER WHOLESALE PARTNERS IN THE SOLID TRIO SYSTEM, UNIVERSAL CITY BEING OBVIOUSLY HERE, AND THEN CONVERSE AND LIVE OAK AS WELL.
UM, SO WE WORKED HARD ON THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT THIS YEAR.
UH, WE'VE BEEN REALLY DIVING INTO OUR RATE MODEL.
IT'S, UH, BEEN A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT FOR A LONG TIME AND WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH OTHER PARTNERS ACROSS THE STATE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH A FINANCIAL AUDIT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO SERVE OUR, OUR CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY DID A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE THIS YEAR.
UH, YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY SELLING, SENDING US BILLING REPORTS, UM, AND WE HAVE DEVIATED A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR AND CALCULATED WINTER AVERAGES ON OUR OWN AND THEN PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF TO REVIEW AND ENSURE THAT MATCHES YOUR RECORD AND GET THAT COOPERATION BETWEEN OUR TWO ENTITIES.
AND I THINK WE, UH, HAD A REALLY GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH UNIVERSAL CITY.
I CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF THE STAFF AND, UH, THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
SO WE, UH, HAD A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH AND THEY CAUGHT AN ERROR IN OUR SPREADSHEET, WHICH WE WERE HAPPY TO RECTIFY.
AND, UM, SO WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT SHOWS, UM, SO WE BROUGHT A COUPLE YEARS OF PRETTY HIGH RATE INCREASES TO YOU ALL AND THE REST OF OUR PARTNERS, AND I THINK IT'S HAPPY, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHOW THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BOIL THOSE DOWN AND GET THOSE DOWN DEFINITELY INTO SINGLE DIGITS.
UNLIKE THOSE DOUBLE DIGIT RATE INCREASES WE SAW A FEW YEARS AGO AND START GETTING THOSE INTO MORE REASONABLE RATE INCREASES THAT ARE
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JUST REALLY KEEPING UP WITH THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS RATHER THAN TRYING TO CATCH UP FOR FUNDS THAT WE HADN'T PREVIOUSLY CAPTURED.UM, SO THIS YEAR THIS IS JUST A SYSTEM-WIDE AVERAGE.
UM, IF YOU'LL, UH, REMEMBER FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS WE COME AND DO EVERY YEAR, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS OF THE WASTEWATER RATE, THE FIXED RATE THAT IS BUILT OUTTA THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN THE VARIABLE RATE, WHICH IS DEPENDENT ON USER CONSUMPTION.
AND SO WHAT IS SHOWN HERE IS BASED ON A 5,000 GALLON PER MONTH CONSUMPTION, AND THAT'S JUST A INDUSTRY STANDARD AVERAGE.
SO THIS DIFFERS FOR EACH CUSTOMER AND DIFFERS FOR THE USERS DEPENDING ON THE WINTER AVERAGE.
AND THAT WINTER AVERAGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE WHAT IS COMMITTED IN WASTEWATER.
SO WHEN YOU'RE NOT IRRIGATING OVER THOSE WINTER MONTHS, UM, IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MORE ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WASTEWATER IS INTRODUCED INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND SO THIS YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT A SYSTEM-WIDE AVERAGE INCREASE OF 5.18%.
BUT IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
UM, THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY, UH, JUST SHOWING THAT WE DO HAVE CONNECTION FEE, UH, REQUIREMENTS, BUT THOSE ARE STAYING CONSTANT.
SO THERE SHOULD BE NO CHANGE TO THAT.
UM, AND SO DEVELOPERS SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO CHANGE UP BEFORE THE PRICE CHANGED.
SINCE THERE WILL BE NO INCREASE IN FISCAL YEAR 26, UM, YOU WILL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE IN THE ALL OTHER USERS RATE.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY IS WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
SO THIS IS ALL OTHER USERS, YOUR INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL USERS, UM, THEIR FIXED, THEIR VARIABLE RATE IS GOING FROM $6 AND 14 CENTS PER THOUSAND GALLONS TO $6 AND 28 CENTS PER THOUSAND GALLONS.
SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR UNIVERSAL CITY? UM, YOU SAW A DECREASE IN YOUR WINTER AVERAGE FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 FROM 5,000 GALLONS, EVEN THE 4,872, WHICH MEANS THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY USERS WERE USING LESS WATER OVER THAT WINTER AVERAGING PERIOD.
AND SO YOUR PERCENT CHANGE WHEN YOU CALCULATE THE FIXED RATE AND THE VARIABLE RATE IS ONLY GOING UP BY 4.1% YEAR OVER YEAR, WHICH IS A DOLLAR AND 32 CENTS FOR THAT SINGLE FAMILY USER BASED ON THAT WINTER AVERAGE RATE.
BUT THAT'S BASED ON THE WINTER AVERAGE RATE.
IF YOUR CUSTOMER HAS AN INDIVIDUAL WINTER AVERAGE RATE, THIS WILL ALL LOOK DIFFERENT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IS THE SYSTEM-WIDE WINTER AVERAGE RATE THAT THE CITY USES IN CALCULATING RATES TO THE RIVER AUTHORITY.
WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW A COMPARISON OF WHERE WE RANK AGAINST OTHER FOLKS, AND THIS IS GETS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ.
UM, I THINK WE'VE PUT THIS CHART TOGETHER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, AND FOR A LONG TIME WE WERE ONLY COMPARING OURSELVES AGAINST REALLY LOCALIZED UTILITIES AND COMPARING OURSELVES AGAINST SAWS WHO HAS A MASSIVE REVENUE BASIS AND ALWAYS APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.
SO THIS ONE SHOWS OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE FACING SOME RAPID GROWTH LIKE THE SAN ANTONIO METRO AREA IS FACING, ESPECIALLY HERE IN EASTERN BEAR COUNTY.
UM, BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT THE, UH, UNIVERSAL CITY RATE THERE IS KIND OF IN THAT MID TO LOWER TIER RATE.
SARAH RATE HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN YELLOW.
OUR YELLOW IS THE WHOLESALE PARTNERS.
RED IS OUR RETAIL RATE THAT THOSE CUSTOMERS CHARGE DIRECTLY TO SARAH ARE PAID.
UM, AND I CAN REALLY SPIT FAST FEED THROUGH THIS, BUT UM, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT GOES INTO THAT FIXED COST, WHICH ARE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
MOST OF THESE ARE FOCUSED AT THE SOLID TREE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT TREATS THE SEWAGE FROM THE UNIVERSAL CITY CUSTOMERS.
AND SO, UM, WE DID A REALLY BIG EXPANSION, UM, AND THAT WAS WHAT A LOT OF THOSE CAPITAL COSTS WENT INTO.
AND WHILE UH, THAT EXPANSION IS COMPLETE AND ONLINE, WE DID HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO FIT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THAT PROJECT.
AND SO THOSE ARE SOME THAT YOU SEE.
WE ALSO WANNA CONTINUE PLANNING AND BEING PROACTIVE FOR IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
UM, WASTEWATER IS A FAIRLY CORROSIVE ENVIRONMENT, SO WHILE WE DON'T EXPECT ANY FUTURE EXPANSIONS, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AS EQUIPMENT FAILS.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO CONTINUOUSLY PLAN FOR FLOOD RESILIENCY AND CLIMATE IMPACTS TO OUR OPERATIONS SO THAT WE CAN ALWAYS BE SERVING THE CUSTOMERS.
UM, A BIG THING FOR OUTSIDE OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS THE COLLECTION SYSTEM LINE THAT CONVEYS THE WASTEWATER FROM THE CUSTOMERS TO US.
AND SO WE WORK IN HAND WITH YOUR STAFF ON INI IMPROVEMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COLLECTION SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT FLOW GETS FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND DOESN'T MAKE ANY UNSIGHTLY APPEARANCES BEFORE IT GETS TO THE PLANT.
SPECULA, UH, WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING A A LOT OF FLOW MONITORING, UM, AND WE DO FIND THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL INI IMPACTS, AND THAT IS WHEN RAINWATER MAKES ITS WAY INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM.
AND SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THAT JUNE 12TH EVENT THAT HAD SUCH SIGNIFICANT FLOODING, SPECIFICALLY IN THE SOLID TRIO BASIN.
THE SOLID TRIO CREEK ROSE QUITE A BIT.
UH, I THINK THE LAST I HEARD WAS UPWARDS OF 16 FEET IN JUST A FEW HOURS IN SOLID TRIO CREEK.
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SO WE SAW A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENT FROM ALL THROUGHOUT THE COLLECTION SYSTEM.AND THAT'S WHAT THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES SHOW THAT WE CAN QUICKLY BRIEF THROUGH.
BUT WE ARE USING THIS DATA TO TARGET IMPROVEMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM IS ADEQUATELY SIZED TO CONVEY FLOW TO THE PLANT AND THAT WE CAN TARGET WHERE THESE ION I SOURCES MAY BE TO REDUCE THE NEED TO OVERSIZE LINES TO TREAT WASTE, TO TREAT RAINWATER VERSUS THE WASTEWATER.
AND THAT, I BELIEVE IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT NEXT STEPS OBVIOUSLY PRESENT TO YOU ALL, GET ANY FEEDBACK.
THIS WILL GO TO OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN SEPTEMBER TO ADOPT OUR NEW BUDGET, WHICH INCLUDES THESE RATES VIA IN ORDINANCE AND THEN OCTOBER ONE, OUR FISCAL YEAR START, THE NEW RATES DO GO INTO EFFECT.
ANY QUESTIONS MR. AL? UH, UM, HI.
UM, WITH REGARD, WITH REGARD TO, EXCUSE ME, INI STUDY, UH, YOU HAVE AN, YOU HAVE HERE THAT THE INI STUDY WILL BE COMPLETED 9 39 30.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A, WITHIN OUR AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE WHOLESALE PARTNERS, UH, WE GET TOGETHER EACH YEAR AND WE COMPARE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO TACKLE I AND I AND ALL THE SYSTEMS SINCE WE ALL OWN A PIECE OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM.
AND SO THOSE REPORTS FROM OUR WHOLESALE PARTNERS AND WE FILL OUT A REPORT AS WELL TO SHOW YOU ALL WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR SYSTEM AND WE GET TOGETHER AND COMPARE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING.
IT'S KIND OF MORE KNOWLEDGE SHARING THAN ANYTHING ELSE SO THAT WE CAN GLEAN FROM EACH OTHER PROACTIVE ATTEMPTS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF INFLOW AND INFILTRATION IN THE SYSTEM.
SO THOSE ARE JUST THE REPORTS THAT ARE IN THE ILA THAT WE SUBMIT AND THEN WE WORKSHOP TOGETHER, RIGHT? SO ON YOUR SIDE, IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND CAPACITY OF TREATMENT.
THE INI STUDIES ARE, UH, THE INI STUDIES IDENTIFY SPOTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY THAT ARE, UH, OF, OF CONCERN, UH, FOR YOUR SYSTEM.
UM, IS THERE ANY EXPECTATION THAT THE INI RESULT WILL RESULT IN A TIMELY MUNICIPAL? THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, RANDY'S TEAM IS INCREDIBLY PROACTIVE IN IDENTIFYING ISSUES AND, AND LINING UP IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO, UH, BUTTON UP THE SYSTEM AND TO REDUCE, BECAUSE THAT IMPACTS THEIR TEAM AS WELL.
THEY MANAGE QUITE A BIT OF RETAIL COLLECTION LINES.
UM, SO THOSE I AND I AND WHAT MAY RESULT INTO A SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW WHERE THAT SEWER DOES ESCAPE OUT OF A MANHOLE OR CLEAN OUT, UM, IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR TEAM.
BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE, UM, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES IMPROVEMENTS.
AND RANDY MORE OR LESS CONFIRMED IT AT THE LA LAST MEETING, AT LEAST THIS SIDE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. OFFICER STRAIT? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATIVE INFORMATION.
AND NOW WE'RE READY FOR THE, UH, GAR GOLF ARCHITECT REPORT.
UH, YES, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW REPORTS DONE, UH, AT THE GOLF COURSE LATELY.
UH, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED US TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH MASON GRACE TO IDENTIFY THE ACTUAL COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN NATIONAL GOLF CAME IN, THEY SAID THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT WAS THEIR BEST GUESS ESTIMATE.
SO NATHAN, BEING A GOLF ARCHITECT, CAN KIND OF BUTTON DOWN THE QUANTITIES AND THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO, UH, UNDER COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION, WE HIRED HIM.
UH, HIS REPORT IS THERE FOR YOU, AND THEN HE'S JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT AND THEN WHAT HE'S DONE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.
THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO COME SPEAK.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG MEETING TONIGHT, SO I'LL JUST TOUCH ON THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN, UH, HANDLE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, I'VE BEEN A GOLF COURSE ARCHITECT FOR 30 PLUS YEARS NOW.
UH, BUT I'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES, STATE AGENCIES, AND EVEN THE US AIR FORCE, UH, WORK ON THEIR GOLF COURSES.
BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE I OPERATED A GOLF COURSE FOR YEARS, A A PUBLIC MUNICIPALLY OWNED GOLF COURSE.
SO I'VE SAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT TABLE WHEN WE, WHEN IT CAME TIME TO LOOK AT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, I'M A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY GOLF COURSE ARCHITECTS AND FORMER MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THAT BODY.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK WHAT WE BRING, WHAT OUR FIRM BRINGS TO OUR CLIENTS IS THAT EXPERIENCE OF NOT ONLY OPERATING, BUT ALSO DOING ARCHITECTURE AND RENOVATION WORK ON GOLF COURSES.
I WANNA DRILL DOWN INTO FOUR KEY FINDINGS THAT WE FOUND IN THE REPORT.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE GOLF COURSE IS ABOUT 25 YEARS OLD, AND A LOT OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE IS STILL THERE.
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THE GOLF COURSE, THE SAND TRAPS, UM, IRRIGATION BEING NUMBER TWO, UH, TEE BOXES BEING NUMBER THREE, AND, UH, TREE MANAGEMENT BEING NUMBER FOUR.SO THE, THE BUNKERS HAVE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, THEY'RE VERY LABOR INTENSIVE, ESPECIALLY AFTER A RAIN EVENT.
UH, THE BUNKERS ARE OVERSIZED BY TODAY'S STANDARDS.
AND WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS BUILT, IT WAS NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE LARGE BUNKERS LIKE THAT EVEN ON A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE.
BUT, UH, IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHEN LABOR IS INCREASINGLY MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND, TO WORK ON A GOLF COURSE, WE FIND THAT GOING IN AND MAKING PART OF A RENOVATION TO THE BUNKERS ALSO MINIMIZING THE TOTAL SQUARE FEET, HELPS IN THE LONG TERM SUCCESS OF THE GOLF COURSE.
THERE IS NO LINER SYSTEM IN THOSE BUNKERS, SO THERE'S A LOT OF SOIL CONTAMINATION THAT GETS IN THERE EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS THROUGH NO FAULT OF THE, OF A CREW AT THE GOLF COURSE.
THIS IS A, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
UH, LIKEWISE, THE IRRIGATION IS ALSO THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM.
THE MAJORITY OF THE HEADS ON THAT GOLF COURSE ARE ARE 25 YEARS OLD.
UM, JEREMY AND HIS CREW HAVE BEEN REPLACING SOME AS THEY FAIL WITH NEWER HEADS, BUT STILL THAT SYSTEM ITSELF IS, IS ANTIQUATED BY TODAY'S STANDARDS.
IN FACT, SOME OF HIS CONTROL BOXES THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE GOLF COURSE ACTUALLY AUTOMATE THE SYSTEM, UM, ARE OLD ENOUGH THAT PARTS REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE BECOMING MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND.
IT IS JUST, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S A 25-YEAR-OLD SYSTEM.
THE NEWER SYSTEM WOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT.
WATERING COULD PROBABLY TIGHTEN THE WATER WINDOW, UH, IN THE LONG RUN, USE LESS WATER AND, AND BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY TROUBLE SPOTS AROUND THE GOLF COURSE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RUN HEADS WHEN, WHEN THEY DON'T NEED TO BE RUN, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, THE TEE BOXES ARE REALLY A REFLECTION OF THE SUCCESS OF THE GOLF COURSE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE ON TRACK TO DO BETWEEN 45 AND 46,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF THIS YEAR.
THAT'S A LOT OF GOLF, UH, EVEN FOR A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE.
BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT OF GOLF.
AND AS A RESULT, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE FEET, A LOT MORE DIVOTS ON THE GOLF COURSE.
AND SO, ESPECIALLY ON THE TEES, THERE'S A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR THAT'S CONCENTRATED IN THOSE AREAS.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE GO IN AND STRIP THE TURF OFF THE TOP OF THOSE TEES, EXPAND THEM, MAKE THEM A LITTLE BIGGER, LASER LEVEL THEM, UH, SO YOU HAVE MORE AREAS TO, TO PLAY FROM.
UM, NUMBER FOUR ON THE LIST, A AGAIN, TREE MANAGEMENT.
SO WE THINK ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE BEING 25 YEARS OLD, THE TREES NOT ONLY ARE 25 YEARS OLD OR MORE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO 25 YEARS LARGER THAN THEY WERE WHEN THE GOLF COURSE OPENED.
UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TREES OUT THERE THAT NOT ONLY CAUSE EROSION ISSUES BECAUSE OF THE ROOT SYSTEM, UH, SHADE ISSUES THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO TURF, BUT ALSO SOME SAFETY ISSUES.
UH, JEREMY HAD A TREE LAST NIGHT THAT JUST FELL OVER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND THEY, WHEN THEY GOT TO THE COURSE THIS MORNING AND WENT OUT TO DO THEIR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, THERE WAS A TREE LAID OVER, A PRETTY GOOD SIZED TREE.
SO THERE ARE, UH, SOME OF THOSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.
BUT, AND I WOULD SAY MAYBE FOUR B THE FRONT ENTRANCE TO THE GOLF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN A REALLY NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FRONT ENTRANCE I THINK COULD BE DRESSED UP WITH SOME LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING, MAYBE A NEW SIGN.
UM, AND JUST REALLY MAKE IT AN ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KIND OF THE FRONT YARD TO THE GOLF COURSE IF YOU WOULD WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PULL IN.
SO, BUNKERS, IRRIGATION, THE TEE BOXES, THE TREE MANAGEMENT, AND THEN AGAIN, THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION ORIGINALLY IN THIS PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR REPORTS AND WE WERE SPACING THIS OUT, IS TO, IN SEPARATE PROJECTS TO KIND OF BITE IT ALL OFF A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.
UM, BUT AFTER FURTHER CONSIDERATION, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER COMBINING THESE INTO ONE PROJECT.
UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS.
THERE'S A COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY MOBILIZATION, DEMOBILIZATION.
YOU HAVE ONE GOLF COURSE CONTRACTOR WHO'S OVERSEEING ALL OF THIS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE, UH, A TREE CONTRACTOR WHO'S OUT THERE AND HE'S RUNNING UP PARTS OF THE GOLF COURSE NOW, THE, HE WOULD WORK UNDER THE GOLF COURSE CONTRACTOR WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRING THAT, PUTTING FRESH SAW DOWN, THAT TYPE OF THING, AND LEAVING IT BETTER THAN THEY FOUND IT.
UM, IT'S ALSO, UH, THERE'S A LEVEL OF EXPECTATION OF QUALITY WHEN YOU HAVE ONE GOLF COURSE CONTRACTOR WHO'S HANDLING THE WHOLE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROJECT FROM BEGINNING TO END.
UM, THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE QUALITY OF THE GOLF COURSE CONTRACTOR AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LEAVE A GOOD PROJECT BEHIND SO THAT THEY
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HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR REPUTATION TO DETERMINE, IF YOU WILL, IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS.AGAIN, WE'VE DONE MORE PUBLIC PROJECTS THAN I CAN COUNT IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, BUT WE PUT TOGETHER ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, UH, SPECIFICATIONS, BID DOCUMENTS.
WE ASSIST THE CITY IN, IN THE BIDDING PROCESS, HELP NEGOTIATE WITH THE LOW BIDDER.
AND THEN WE ALSO HANDLE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OBSERVATION THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AND THROUGH GROW INTO OPENING DAY, THE WAY THIS PROJECT WOULD BE DONE DOESN'T REQUIRE TO CLOSE THE GOLF COURSE.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
LAST YEAR THEY REDID THE GREENS, THE GREENS LOOKED PHENOMENAL, BUT WHEN YOU REDO GREENS, YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE GOLF COURSE DOWN BECAUSE YOU EVENTUALLY GET TO SOME POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T GET ON THE GREEN AND FINISH THE HOLE WITH THE BUNKERS AND THE IRRIGATION AND THE TEES.
WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THE GOLF COURSE DOWN FOR THAT.
THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS THAT THEY'RE TAKING OUT A PARTICULARLY LARGE TREE OR SOMETHING MAY HAVE TO HAVE SOME FLAGGING AND, AND BARRIERS TO SEND PEOPLE AROUND TO A DIFFERENT, UH, SIDE OF THE HOLE.
SO TO THAT EFFECT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON REVENUE.
IN FACT, USUALLY WHAT WE FIND IS THAT BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WITH A BUNKER RENOVATION, PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE PLAYING GOLF, THEY SEE THE RESULTS OF THE RENOVATION AS THEY'RE PLAYING.
THEY GET BACK AND TELL THEIR FRIENDS, HEY, YOU NEED TO GO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT SUCH AND SUCH GOLF COURSE THAT REALLY LOOKS NICE.
AND THEN REALLY KIND OF STIRS UP THE EXCITEMENT FACTOR BECAUSE, UH, NOTHING HELPS GOLF LIKE WORD OF MOUTH THESE DAYS.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I KNOW I KIND OF RAN THROUGH IT QUICK, BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG MEETING.
I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THE HIGH POINT.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER WHATEVER I CAN.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE, UH, I'LL GO FIRST.
UM, I GUESS FROM THE ORIGINAL STUDY THAT WE GOT, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE THE BUNKERS, FOR EXAMPLE, WERE TO SOFTEN THE COURSE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO PLAY AND THAT MIGHT BRING MORE PEOPLE TO THE GOLF COURSE.
SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE BIG, LARGE BUNKERS, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE THE STYLE OF THE BUNKERS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW WITH THE BIG PUSHED UP PHASES, UM, THOSE ARE NOT ONLY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN, BUT THEY'RE MORE DIFFICULT TO PLAY.
AND SO WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS SORT OF A SEMI FLAT BUNKER BOTTOM WHERE THE SAND IS ON THE BOTTOM, THE GRASS COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE TOP, IT'S EASIER TO PLAY OUT OF.
AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE SOME BUNKERS OUT THERE THAT DON'T NEED TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, I, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A DECENT AMOUNT OF, UH, REDUCTION OF SQUARE FEET, WHICH ALLOWS THE STAFF TO REALLOCATE THOSE MAN HOURS TO OTHER AREAS OF THE GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE NOW WHEN IT RAINS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND, AND PUSH UP ALL THE SAND.
THEY CAN GO THERE ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO, BUT YES, YOU, YOU WILL DEFINITELY SEE, I WOULD SAY, UM, A INCREASE IN THE GOLFER EXPERIENCE WITH THE, WITH NEW BUNKERS AND, AND THE WAY THEY PLAY AND THE WAY THEY LOOK.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET IS, I'M TRYING TO HELP, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME CLASSIFY, IS THIS A NEED OR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DESIRE? SO IF WE'RE ALREADY HITTING A REALLY HIGH LEVEL AROUNDS MM-HMM
THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A DESIRE THAN A NEED.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK IT'S BEYOND THE POINT OF, OF BEING A DESIRE AT THIS POINT.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOTTEN IN SUCH BAD SHAPE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU ANY SUPERINTENDENT COULD MANAGE HIS OR HER WAY OUT OF.
UM, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT EROSION OF THOSE FACES AND THE CONTAMINATION FROM THE NATIVE SOIL THAT'S GOTTEN INTO THE SAND EVERY TIME IT'S BECOME MORE AND MORE LABOR INTENSIVE EVERY TIME.
SO IT, THEY'RE, THEY'VE WELL EXCEEDED IF THERE'S A LIFECYCLE CHART IN THIS REPORT, UH, THEY HAVE BY FAR EXCEEDED THEIR LIFE, THEIR, THEIR, UH, USABLE LIFE FOR NORMAL SAND BUNKERS.
UM, AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENOVATE THEM AND ALSO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET AND CHANGE THE STYLE AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT YOU'RE NOT TURNING AROUND 10 YEARS FROM NOW HAVING TO REDO 'EM.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING EXTENDED LIFE OUT OF IT.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AGGREGATE LINERS THEY PUT IN THE, IN BUNKERS THESE DAYS.
UM, IT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.
I MEAN, SAND HOLDS, IT PLAYS BETTER.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A LABOR SAVINGS.
MAYOR, ANYTHING ELSE MR. AL? UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
UH, KIND OF BOTTOM LINE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, IF I ADDED UP ABOUT, UH, AN EXCESSIVE $3 MILLION OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME, IF I LOOK AT THE RANGE OF THINGS, UH, THREE, SO $3 MILLION, UM, OBVI OBVIOUSLY, UM, 20, UH, 20, UH, 5-YEAR-OLD SYSTEMS ARE MORE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN.
UM, UH, I'VE GOT A, UH, 2002 CHEVY BLAZER, UH, UH, RUN IT FROM HERE TO, UH, COLORADO TO GO FISHING EVERY YEAR.
UH, SO, UH, THEY CAN'T, THEY ARE MAINTAINABLE, THEY'RE JUST MORE EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN, RIGHT? SO ESSENTIALLY WE LOOK, WE
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LOOK AT, AT THE, AT THE MAINTENANCE COST FOR REPLACEMENT ON A PIECE BY PIECE BASIS, UH, TYPE THING.UH, SO IN THE CASE OF IRRIGATION, COULD THERE BE A HYBRID SOLUTION THAT'S A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN 908 80, ACTUALLY $1.5 MILLION? WELL, THE, UM, UH, UH, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO YEAR, TWO YEAR SPAN HERE UNDER IRRIGATION 680 AND NINE 80 IN YOUR REPORT, I THINK, OH, THE, UM, THE NINE 80 IS THE, UH, IS THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AND THAT, THAT SORT OF IS A HYBRID SOLUTION.
NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THESE DAYS, IF YOU WERE TO GO REPLACE THAT ENTIRE SYSTEM, ALL NEW PIPING AND, AND THE WHOLE, I MEAN, YOU COULD EASILY SPEND IT IN EXCESS OF TWO AND A HALF TO $3 MILLION JUST ON THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM.
UM, IT'S INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE WITH THE INCREASE IN PRICE OF PIPE.
IN FACT, UH, MOST SYSTEMS AREN'T DONE WITH PVC PIPE ANYMORE.
THEY'RE DONE WITH HDP PIPE AND THERE'S JUST SO MANY CHANGES.
AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE, THE, UH, VEHICLE.
MY WIFE HAS A, HAS AN OLD THUNDERBIRD AND SHE LOVES DRIVING AROUND IN THAT.
BUT THE, UH, THE COMPARISON WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE APPLICABLE TO A 2001, UM, YEAR MODEL COMPUTER, YOU KNOW, RUNNING LIKE WINDOWS 95, BECAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH OUT THERE.
WHEN, WHEN THE, WHEN THEY HAD THE FLOOD OF A MONTH OR SO, ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO BE IN TOWN THE DAY OF THE FLOOD.
AND I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON A GOLF COURSE BETWEEN DAY ONE AND DAY TWO OF THE SITE VISIT.
BUT SOME OF THOSE SATELLITE CONTROLLERS THAT ARE OUT THERE WERE UNDERWATER.
UM, THEY HAVE COMPUTER BOARDS IN THERE NOW.
LUCKILY, THEY VERY CAREFULLY CLEANED 'EM OUT, DRIED 'EM OUT AND, AND GOT 'EM BACK UP AND WORKING.
UM, BUT A NEW SATELLITE PEDESTAL LIKE THAT WITHIN THE, I MEAN, THAT'S EASILY SEVEN, EIGHT, $9,000 THESE DAYS REPLACE THAT.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS A SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY ELIMINATES THAT OLD SYSTEM, AND NOW ALL THE CONTROLS ARE, WOULD BE IN THE SUPERINTENDENT'S OFFICE, AND IT'S JUST A SIMPLE WIRE SYSTEM.
IT RUNS EVERYTHING BACK AND IT CAN BE OPERATED FROM THERE.
SO LESS CHANCE OF VANDALISM DAMAGE FROM FLOODS, SOMEBODY RUNNING INTO A GOLF CART, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
BUT YEAH, OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT, THE PIPE IS FINE.
THE PIPE IS, IS OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE OUT THE HEADS, CHANGE OUT THE CONTROL SYSTEM, AND UPDATE THE SOFTWARE AND THE COMPUTER SYSTEM, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A NEW SYSTEM FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
SO, SO, SO I GUESS TO CLARIFY, IF I HAVE A HEAD THAT I CAN'T FIND A REPLACEMENT PART, I CAN STILL BUY A NEW HEAD AND PUT IT ON A GOOD, THE EXISTING PIPELINE, IS THAT YES, YES.
RIGHT? SO WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THE CONTRACTOR WOULD GO, JUST DIG UP THAT HEAD, RIGHT? AND THERE'S A SWING JOINT AT THE BOTTOM THAT CONNECTS THE RIGHT, RIGHT? YOU ALWAYS WANNA REPLACE THE SWING JOINT 'CAUSE THEY WEAR OUT OVER TIME, BUT YOU WOULD REPLACE THE SWING JOINT IN THE HEAD, AND THEN THEY TAKE THE NEW WIRE THAT THEY PLOW IN.
THEY HAVE USED A VIBRATORY PLOW, SO IT'S NOT TEARING THE GOLF COURSE UP, IT JUST BOOM UNDER THE GROUND LIKE YOU'VE SEEN, UH, UH, LIKE WHEN THEY BORE UNDER WITH, UH, TELEPHONE WIRE AND THEN THEY JUST CONNECT THE HEAD AND THE PIPE STAYS THE SAME.
OKAY? SO THERE IS A, A SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS THAT WAY.
AND WHEN YOU REFER TO THE BUNKERS AND THE COST SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH BUNKERS, THAT'S NOT GONNA TRANSLATE INTO A MANPOWER SAVINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE ONE EQUIVALENT MANPOWER BASED ON REMODELING THE BUNKERS, ARE WE? NO.
WHAT I, WHAT I CAUTION PEOPLE AGAINST IS A BUNKER RENOVATION USUALLY PAYS FOR ITSELF IN TWO TO TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
UM, IT'S NOT A LABOR SAVINGS WHERE YOU CAN SAY, OH, WELL NOW WE DON'T NEED THESE TWO PEOPLE ON STAFF.
OR NOW IT'S A, IT'S A COST REALLOCATION.
SO LET'S SAY JEREMY WANTS TO TOP DRESS GREENS A LITTLE MORE OFTEN TO MAKE THE PUTTING SURFACES AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE PLAYING AS YOU CAN.
NOW WHEN IT RAINS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO PUSH UP, UH, SPEND A WHOLE DAY OR A DAY AND A HALF WITH THE WHOLE CREW PUSHING SAND UP IN BUNKERS.
THEY CAN GO OUT AND DO THAT EXTRA TOP DRESSING OR THEY CAN DO, UH, SOME TREE TRIMMING, OR THEY CAN DO OTHER THINGS ON THE GOLF COURSE.
SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ELIMINATING LABOR.
I'M ADVOCATING FOR A WAY TO A COST SAVINGS THAT HELPS YOU OUT REALLOCATE THOSE LABOR, THAT LABOR.
AND, AND THE, JUST THE LAST COMMENT IS ESSENTIALLY IF YOU THOUGHT YOU SAW A FLOOD, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN A FLOOD THERE,
THAT WAS, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY THAT WAS, BUT IT WAS, UM, I THINK THEY HAD SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN IN LIKE THREE HOURS THAT MORNING.
AND WHEN I GOT BACK OUT THERE THE NEXT MORNING, NOT A CAR IN THE PARKING LOT.
AND, UM, JEREMY PULLED UP AND HE SAID, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ON A SITE VISIT WHERE THE GOLF COURSE
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WASN'T THERE THE SECOND DAY? AND I MEAN, JUST THE DEBRIS AND THE DAMAGE AND THE, UM, THE, THE DEBRIS LINE JUST TO SEE WHERE THE WATER GOT TO IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS ALONG THE CREEK.I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING, UH, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE A HURRICANE OR THOSE HURRICANE IS REALLY WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
BUT I, I, I THINK MEMBERS ARE AROUND HERE, THEY CAN SHOW YOU SOME, UH, TWO TH 2004 ISH PICTURES THAT WILL, UH, AND AND ALLOW YOU TO SIT DOWN WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEM
AND REALLY SPEAKING ON THAT, I, THE FACT THAT THEY HAD VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF AND EVERYBODY CAME IN TO GET THE GOLF HORSE CLEANED BACK UP AND GET IT REOPENED AS QUICKLY AS THEY DID AS A, A TESTAMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, IS WHAT I, I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHEN HE CALLED ME AND I CALLED TO CHECK TO SEE HOW THINGS WERE GOING, HE SAID, WE'LL REOPEN IT TOMORROW, YOU KNOW, A FEW DAYS, HOUR, MAYBE FIVE DAYS LATER OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
SO THANK YOU, MR. UM, THANK YOU FOR COMPARING IT TO THE OLD COMPUTERS.
SO IF WE UPGRADE ALL THE SYSTEMS, THEN THAT'S GONNA SAVE ON JEREMY'S TIME OF MAINTAINING IT CONSTANTLY.
IT'S A HIGH MAINTENANCE NOW THING.
THING NOW, RIGHT? SO GETTING IT UPGRADED, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND LESS TIME, WE'RE GONNA USE LESS WATER, IT'S GONNA BE MORE, MORE EFFICIENT.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, TRAILS, THE CART PATH MM-HMM
IS THAT IN THIS PART OF IT? BECAUSE THAT'S A MESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO PRIORITIZE THE KEY ISSUES RELATIVE TO THE VENUE TAX.
AND SO RIGHT CART PATHS ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE AS PART OF ANNUAL, LIKE ANNUAL CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.
UM, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN DO THAT AS WHILE WE'RE ON SITE DOING THE OTHERS TO JUST IDENTIFY THE WORST AREAS AND SET THAT OUT OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS OR HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, LONG THE BOARD WISHES TO DO IT AND ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE WORST AREAS THAT, AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT, IT'S A KIND OF A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
YOU GET ALL THE EXTRA PLAY AND OF COURSE IT BRINGS MORE REVENUE IN, BUT IT'S MORE WEAR AND TEAR, MORE CART TIRES ON THE GOLF COURSE, MORE FEET, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WALKING AROUND AND OF COURSE, PUBLIC GOLF COURSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO PULL OFF 38 YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DO THIS, BUT THEY PULL HALFWAY OFF THE CART PATH WHEN THEY GET OFF TO GO WALK UP TO THE GREEN.
AND THAT'S ALL, IF YOU SAW IN THE REPORT, THERE'S A PICTURE THERE FROM THE, UH, EIGHTH GREEN AND IT IS, UH, JUST THE EROSION.
IT IS SIMPLY FROM PARTS PULLING OFF.
SO WE WOULD IDENTIFY THE WORST AREAS AND THEN KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A PLAN WHERE THEY COULD, THEY COULD INVEST X NUMBER OF DOLLARS EACH YEAR AND ADDRESS THOSE HORSES.
UM, AND I KNOW OUR GOLF RATE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF GOLFERS COMING SINCE WE GOT THE NEW GREENS HAS RISEN.
AND THEY'RE ALL, YES, WE, WE WANNA INVITE MORE PEOPLE.
WE WANT MORE PROFESSIONAL GOLFERS OUT HERE.
SO, I'M SORRY, SHINY AND NEW IS ENTICING.
THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BRING THEM IN.
AND I, I TELL YOU ANOTHER GREAT THING THAT I'VE SEEN OUT THERE, THE TIMES I'VE BEEN THERE, ALL THE JUNIORS, THERE'S SO MANY KIDS OUT THERE, SAL'S JUNIOR GOLF PROGRAM, BUT KIDS OUT THERE ALL THE TIME, AND I REALLY THINK IT'S MINIMAL EXPENSE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE TEES, LOOK FOR AREAS WE CAN PUT FORWARD TEES, WHAT WE CALL FAMILY TEES AND GIVE THOSE JUNIORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT THERE AND LEARN THE GAME, UH, AT AN EARLY AGE.
'CAUSE IT TRULY IS A GAME THEY CAN PLAY FOR A LIFETIME.
UM, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TALK WITH SAL ABOUT A FEW THINGS, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THEY TURNED AROUND FROM THAT TERRIBLE FLOOD, AND IT REALLY STRUCK ME BECAUSE SAL TAKES GREAT OWNERSHIP IN THE GOLF COURSE, AND HE WAS GOING AROUND, HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING AROUND AND THANKING PEOPLE, UH, FOR COMING IN AND HELPING.
AND THE RESPONSE HE GOT FROM THE PEOPLE THERE IS, THIS IS OUR HOME.
AND SO THERE'S GREAT OWNERSHIP WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY FOR WANTING IT TO BE THE BEST YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY TELL.
AND WHEN WE RODE AROUND THAT MORNING, I JUST, MY HEART BROKE FOR JEREMY AND SAL JUST KNOWING WHAT WAS AHEAD OF THEM, HAVING TO GET THINGS BACK.
AND THEN WHEN I CALLED BACK TO, TO CHECK IN CRAZY UNTIL WE WERE REOPENING TOMORROW, I, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
SORRY, THIS ONE MIGHT BE FOR YOU.
UM, SO WHEN WE TALKED IN THE PAST, THERE WERE, UH, THERE WERE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE PROPOSED AS WELL, LIKE ADULT BEVERAGES AT THE DRIVING RANGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS THIS OUR GUY OR IS THAT ANOTHER GUY? WELL, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE IN THERE AND WE'LL CALL THAT, UH, A, A NICE LUXURY ITEM TO HAVE AND ALSO A SOURCE OF REVENUE, UM, TO HAVE A RESTROOM AND SOME VENDING MACHINES, ET CETERA, DOWN AT THE RANGE.
UM, THAT IS NOT IN THIS REPORT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING CERTAINLY THAT, UM, CAN BE WORKED ON IN THE FUTURE.
THE OTHER ITEM, AND I BRING THIS BACK UP AGAIN AND I KNOW WE'RE NOW, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RANGE, BUT WE
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HAVE TO REMEMBER THE NUMBER ONE ITEM THAT AFFECTS OUR BANQUET SALES IS THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A ROOM FOR THE BRIDES.AND SO THAT'S NOT IN THIS REPORT EITHER.
IT WASN'T PART OF THE SCOPE, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL STILL COME INTO PLAY IN THE FUTURE.
LET'S JUST NOT FORGET ABOUT 'EM.
I JUST, YES, I KNOW HE WAS THE GUY AND HE FORGOT ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE, NATHAN? THAT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE REPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION.
AND, UM, I WAS KIND OF CONCERNED WHEN THE FIRST REPORT WAS ABOUT BREAKING UP THE, UH, I GUESS THE REPAIR AND THE REPLACEMENT OF ALL THE, UH, THE BUNKERS, THE, THE TEE BOXES, THE, THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM ESPECIALLY, UM, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN WORKING IN, UH, NAF OPERATIONS WAS THAT WHENEVER YOU'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE, REPLACE IT ALL INSTEAD OF A PIECEMEAL BECAUSE IT TENDS TO BREAK DOWN JUST MY OPINION ALONE.
NO, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
APPRECIATE YOU'RE IDENTIFYING THAT.
YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING THAT KIND OF A OPPORTUNITY COST INVOLVED THERE, YOU DON'T WANT GOLFERS GOING, WHAT, THEY'VE BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR THREE YEARS.
THERE'S ALWAYS SOME KIND OF CONSTRUCTION.
GO AHEAD AND BITE THE BULLET, GET IT DONE, HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR THAT'S ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT, AND THEN YOU CAN GET THE GOLF COURSE, YOU KNOW, RUN IN FULL STEAM.
AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IN OUR LODGING OPERATIONS IN THE AIR FORCE, WE DIDN'T JUST DO THREE OR FOUR ROOMS IN A BUILDING, THE ENTIRE DORMITORIES.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOUNG TO STAFF, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SOME DIRECTION.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE PUT IN HERE, UM, IF YOU DECIDE YOU DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, WE WOULD NEED TO SIGN A CONTRACT WITH MR. CRA AND HIS FIRM FOR THE DESIGN WORK AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND THE RFP PROCESS AND ALL OF THAT.
UH, ONCE HE WAS DONE WITH THAT AND WE ACTUALLY HAD THE BIDS BACK FROM THE CONTRACTORS, THEN WE WOULD BRING THOSE BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, MOVE TO APPROVE.
UM, UM, SO IS, IS THIS A, IS THIS A, A VOTE OR JUST A CONSENSUS GOING FORWARD? WELL, UH, IT'S A, UH, A REPORT.
UH, WHICH CAN BE, SO WE CAN APPROVE THE REPORT.
IN THAT CASE THEN I APPROVE WE HAVE A SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPORT AS AND RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, UH, WITH A QUESTION I'LL DISCUSS.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND HIRE THE GUY, THE GUY, YES.
AND HE'S GONNA RUN US THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS DRAWINGS WITH THIS MOTION THAT WE'RE, THAT I JUST SAY BIDS EVERYTHING.
ONCE THE BIDS ARE IN, LIKE WE DO WITH EVERY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WE BRING IT TO YOU AND SAY, WE HAD THIS MANY BIDDERS, THIS IS THE LOW BIDDER, HERE'S THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND AT THAT TIME, COUNSEL CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OR YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF NOT DOING ANYTHING.
THE INITIAL COST FOR THAT PROCESS TO START.
SO THIS IS WHY WE HIRED HIM TO DO THIS ONE.
SO WE KNOW FOR HIS CONTRACT IT'S $105,000 AND HE'S TELLING YOU BASED ON QUANTITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HE'S IDENTIFIED THAT YOU'RE IN THAT RANGE BETWEEN 1.2 MILLION AND 1.8 MILLION.
TO DO THE WORK I'M TALKING ABOUT TO PREPARE THE RFP TO GET EVERYTHING READY TO GO.
WHICH WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO AT THIS POINT, OR NO? NO, YOU HAVE NOT.
MR. BOND, IS THAT IN OUR 25 26 BUDGET OR IS THIS GONNA GET TO BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT OR WHERE, HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR THAT? SO IT'S UM, NOT, HOWEVER, UH, WE COULD MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE VENUE TAX AND MOVE THAT 105,000 FROM THE UNUSED VENUE TAX PORTION INTO THE GOLF COURSE BUDGET, UM, TO DO, TO DO THIS $105,000 WORTH OF WORK, WHICH HAS A TIMELINE OF HOW LONG? WELL THAT ACTUALLY, THAT COVERS OUR TIME ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT'S DEPENDING ON HOW BUT FOR YOU TO GET THE PLANS, THE RFP PROCESS, THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.
AND SO THEN AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH THE COSTS OF THE BIDS AND THEN THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE THE DECISION OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
WELL I MOVE, WE AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT IF THE GOLF COURSE CAN FIND A WAY TO PAY FOR IT WITHOUT THE VENUE TAX.
WELL, WE HAVE TO, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THERE.
WE HAVE TO, WE REALLY, WE CAN'T AMEND THAT HASN'T BEEN VOTED ON.
SO YOU'D HAVE, UM, SO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT.
SO YOU DO A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN HOWEVER THAT VOTE GOES, YOU'LL GO TO YOUR ORIGINAL VOTE.
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AMENDED IF THE VOTE PASSES ON THE AMENDMENT AND IF NOT, IT WOULD BE AS STATED IF IT FAILS.ONE MORE QUESTION AND I HAVE A COMMENT AS WELL.
THERE WAS 800,000 THAT WE DID NOT, WE WERE NOT PLANNING ON SENDING OVER TO THE PARTS THAT WERE LEAVING IN THE VENUE TAX FROM.
IS THAT WE BUDGETED, SO THIS IS ONE EIGHTH OF THAT.
BUT, UH, MS. GREEN IS JUST TELLING ME THAT IN FACT THERE IS ALS ALREADY UNUSED VENUE TAX IN THE 25 BUDGET THAT COULD BE USED, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT AND THEN NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT AT ALL ON THE PROPOSED 2026 BUDGET.
HOW MUCH IS LEFT LEFTOVER? THE WHOLE 105,000? THE WHOLE 105,000? YES.
WE HAVE, UM, $675,000 OF VENUE TAX THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN SENT TO THE, OR TRANSFERRED TO THE GOLF COURSE.
THE GOLF COURSE CURRENTLY HAS APPROXIMATELY $400,000 SURPLUS RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE THEIR FUND BALANCE IN OCTOBER.
UM, THE INCREASE IN THEIR FUND BALANCE WITHOUT THE $675,000 IS ALMOST $500,000.
SO THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY RIGHT NOW TO PAY THE $105,000.
UM, I WOULD JUST HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH THE AUDITORS THAT, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A PREPAID ITEM, BUT THE ORIGINAL VOTE, THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND SECOND JUST SAYS WE'RE APPROVING IT.
IT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA TRANSFER MONEY FROM THE VENUE TAX.
IS THAT CORRECT? DID WE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TRANSFERRING ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THE VENUE TAX IN THE FIRST MOTION? NO, WE JUST SAID WE'RE APPROVING THE 105.
WE'RE APPROVING THE RE REPORT, CORRECT? WELL, WE'RE APPROVING THE EXPENDITURE AND THE STAFF TO EXPEND THE $105,000, BUT WE DIDN'T SAY WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM.
WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE PULLING IT OUT OF VENUE TAX IN THAT MOTION.
AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO THE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
CALL FOR THE VOTE FOR THE AMENDMENT NOW, JUST, WHICH IS NOT TO TAKE ANY MONEY FROM THE VENUE TAX NO.
IS JUST TO FUND THE PROPOSAL AS IS.
NO, THE AMENDMENT WAS TO DO WITHOUT VENUE TAX.
ADDITIONAL VENUE TAX, ADDITIONAL VENUE TAX.
UM, MR. MAYOR, I, I'M, I'M THAT ONE.
IT'S, THAT DOES NOT SEEM WELL BOTH MS. BUT WHAT WAS YOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION? WHAT WERE YOU, WHAT WERE YOU IT WAS TO APPROVE THE REPORT THAT WE JUST RECEIVED AND TO GIVE STAFF PERMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE 105,000.
WHETHER, AND THAT HAS GOTTA COME FROM VENUE TAX.
THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE FROM VENUE TAX, CORRECT? I'M SORRY, SIR, ISN'T IT ALREADY 105? THE $105 IS OBLIGATED FOR THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE COMING FROM VENUE TAX, CORRECT? THE $105,000 WOULD MOST PROBABLY BE VENUE TAX? YES, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE THE $400,000 SURPLUS, IT, THEY DID RECEIVE $500,000 FROM VENUE TAX THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO, BUT THIS IS FISCAL, THIS IS VENUE TAX FROM 2025.
WHAT'S EASIEST FOR YOU,
THERE'S NO REASON, THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
THE, THE, THE GOLF COURSE HAS ENOUGH MONEY.
UM, AND I PROJECT THAT AUGUST, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE EVEN MORE REVENUE COMING IN THAN ANTICIPATED.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT WITH E WITH EITHER OF THE MOTION, WITH EITHER OPTION.
SO WE CAN GO WITH YOU WITH THAT.
WE NEED TO VOTE FOR ON MR. BALL? YES.
DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT SECOND ONE.
THE FIRST ONE PUTS GUARDRAILS.
THE SECOND ONE PUTS GUARDRAILS ON THE FIRST ONE.
SO THE MOTION IS MR. VINE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPEAT IT? UH, I GUESS I'M AMENDING THE MOTION TO SAY THAT WE'LL APPROVE THE CONTRACT AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT, UH, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL VENUE TAX.
THAT'S ALL THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, BUT ADDITIONAL VENUE TAX ABOVE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED FOR THE GOLF COURSE BUDGET OR IDENTIFIED FOR 2025 BUDGET.
OKAY, WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT IN THE 25 APPROVED.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? 30
MAYOR, RESIDENT FITZPATRICK? NO.
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SPE AYE.COUNCIL MEMBER PUT NO COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY? NO.
MAYOR, I'LL BREAK THE TIE AND, UH, GO WITH A NO MOTION COUNT.
I'LL NEED TO DO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
SO NOW WE NEED TO DO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FINAL PRODUCT.
I APPRECIATE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THE, UH, STAFF REPORT FOR THE, UH, FIVE YEAR CRIME TREND PRESENTATION.
THIS IS A REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER AL, UH, PROVIDED I'M, I'M SORRY WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
UH, THIS IS A REQUEST BY COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL, UH, FOR A FIVE YEAR CRIME TREND REPORT.
SO CHIEF ALKI HAS PUT A PRESENTATION TOGETHER FOR YOU AND MARIBEL'S GONNA PULL THAT UP HERE IN A SECOND.
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ON THE DAAS A LITTLE HANDOUT, HE'S GONNA USE SOME TERMS. WE WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT TERM.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE PAPER BEFORE YOU.
COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
AS CITY MANAGER SAID, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE FIVE YEAR CRIME TRANSIT.
THIS IS FOR 2020 THROUGH 2024.
THE PAPERS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, ARE THE, THE REQUIRED REPORTABLE OFFENSES THAT WE HAVE TO SEND TO THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE FBI FOR THE UNIFORM CRIME REPORT.
I'VE GIVEN YOU THE SHEET BECAUSE IT MEANS THERE'S 34 DIFFERENT OFFENSES ON THAT SHEET THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO, TO REPORT EVERY YEAR AS WE GET THOSE OFFENSES IN.
UP HERE YOU HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ALL OF THOSE OFFENSES COMBINED.
THAT'S CALLED THE GROUP A OFFENSIVE OFFENSE REPORT.
IT REALLY DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO US.
I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAYS WHEN YOU SEE GROUP A ON THERE.
GROUP A IS BROKEN INTO THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
IT COVERS CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS, PROPERTY CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY.
SO I'LL, I'LL GO INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT WE'LL START WITH THE OVERALL.
THIS IS THE TOTAL OF ALL OF THOSE COMBINED.
STARTING IN 2020, WE HAD 1,611 OFFENSES.
WE HAD BASICALLY NO INCREASE, UH, LIKE 15 DIFFERENT OFFENSES ON 2021.
AND THEN IN 2023 WE SAW A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT BUMP IN CRIME, FOLLOWED UP IN 2024 BY AN ALMOST EQUAL DECLINE BACK TO AT OR BELOW NORMAL NUMBERS.
I'LL GO INTO, UH, INTO THE SPIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GET INTO PROPERTY CRIMES.
IT WAS MAINLY ATTRIBUTED TO BURGLARY AND THEFT TYPE OFFENSES.
SO AS I GET INTO THAT CATEGORY, I'LL COVER THAT SPIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WE'LL START WITH CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS.
THIS IS YOUR TYPICALLY VIOLENT CRIMES OR INJURY TO PERSON TYPE CRIMES.
IT COVERS MURDERS, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, UH, SEXUAL ASSAULT, OTHER OFFENSES LIKE THAT.
UM, TYPICALLY THINGS THAT ARE INJURED.
IT ALSO COVERS YOUR FAMILY VIOLENCE CALLS.
IT COVERS YOUR SIMPLE ASSAULTS, WHICH IS THE BULK OF, OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE RELATIVELY, RELATIVELY EQUAL AND DECLINING OVER, OVER THE COURSE OF THE 2020 TO 2024, ENDING WITH THE, I THINK, SECOND LOWEST NUMBERS IN 2024 FOR US WITH 373 TOTAL OFFENSES.
OF THOSE IN 20 24, 60 5% OF 'EM WERE SIMPLE ASSAULT, SIMPLE ASSAULT RANGES FROM, FROM CONTACT UNWANTED CONTACT TO BASICALLY A FIST FIGHT.
SO A LOT OF YOUR FAMILY DISTURBANCES END UP IN THAT.
OUR VIOLENT CRIME NUMBERS ARE RELATIVELY LOW IN THE SINGLE DIGITS TO TO MID-TEENS TYPICALLY FOR THE COURSE OF A WHOLE YEAR.
SEXUAL ASSAULT OFFENSES, UH, ALSO FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY ON YOUR REPORT.
THE, THE FBI USES DIFFERENT STATISTICAL OR STATUTE TERMS THAN WE DO, UH, IN TEXAS IT'S CALLED SEXUAL ASSAULT.
AND IN THE UCR IT'S CALLED RAPE.
UH, THEY ALSO USE THE TERM INTIMIDATION.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS A TEXAS STATUTE.
UH, TERRORISTIC THREATS, STALKING THOSE KIND OF CASES FALL INTO SOME OF THESE.
SO SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, THERE'S A GROUP OF OF STATUTES THAT WE MAY HAVE THAT'LL FALL INTO ONE SINGLE CATEGORY FOR THE UCR.
UM, MOVING ON TO CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, THIS IS WHERE THE
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BULK OF OUR NUMBERS COME FROM ON A YEARLY BASIS.YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS ARE THE HIGHEST THERE WITH 880 STARTING IN 2020 AND, UH, GOES UP SLIGHTLY EACH YEAR.
AND THEN AGAIN, A SPIKE IN 2023 AND IT DROPS BACK DOWN TO BELOW AVERAGE NUMBERS IN 2024.
CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY IS, IS, LIKE I SAID, THE BULK OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH.
IT'S A LOT OF SHOPLIFTING CALLS, IT'S A LOT OF THEFT.
THE BURGLARY OF A VEHICLE CALLS THAT WE GET, AND THOSE CAN BE ATTRIBUTED USUALLY TO ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AS THE MAIN ONE.
AND IN 2023, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SUPER HIGH GROCERY PRICES, WE HAD HIGH FUEL PRICES, INFLATION WAS AN ISSUE, UNEMPLOYMENT WAS AN ISSUE.
WHEN THOSE KIND OF THINGS HAPPEN, PEOPLE TEND TO EITHER STEAL THE, THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY NEED OR THEY STEAL EQUIPMENT OR OTHER THINGS THAT THEY CAN SELL TO GET MONEY TO BUY THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY NEED.
SO YOU, YOU'LL TYPICALLY SEE A, A SPIKE IN THEFTS AND BURGLARIES WHEN YOU HAVE POOR ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.
ANOTHER CONTRIBUTOR TO THAT IS OFFICER SHORTAGES.
IN 2023, WE HIRED SIX NEW OFFICERS.
UH, SIX OFFICERS IS ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR PATROL OFFICER STAFF.
SO THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LOSS FOR US TO HAVE THAT MANY OPENINGS.
UH, THAT MEANS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS PICKING UP ALL THE CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN.
SO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE LESS OR TWO LESS OFFICERS ON EACH SHIFT THAT ARE RESPONDING TO CALLS, WHICH THE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE THEN HAVE TO RESPOND TO THOSE.
SO IT TAKES PROACTIVE TIME AWAY WHERE OFFICERS AREN'T PATROLLING NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE NOT HITTING SOME OF OUR HOTTER SPOTS AND DOING SECURITY CHECKS AND DOING THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO TO TRY TO HELP REDUCE THIS.
UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE BUSY BOUNCING FROM CALL TO CALL, WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE THOSE, HIRE THOSE OFFICERS, GET THEM ON THE STREET.
ONCE THEY GET OUT OF TRAINING, THEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE ROAD.
WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE HANDLING CALLS.
SO MORE PEOPLE HAVE TIME FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, FOR SELECTIVE PATROLS FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE NUMBERS START TO COME DOWN.
CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY IS OFFENSES THAT TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL AS A VICTIM.
THIS IS WHERE THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS YOUR, IS YOUR VICTIM IN THESE OFFENSES.
NARCOTICS VIOLATIONS, UH, PROSTITUTION, DISORDERLY CONDUCT, DWIS AND SOME WEAPONS OFFENSES ALL FALL UNDER TO CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY.
THESE NUMBERS YOU'LL SEE START LOWERING IN 2020 AND INCREASE A LITTLE EACH YEAR.
AND THIS IS ONE AREA WHERE THAT'S NOT A BAD THING TO SEE AS AN INCREASE, UH, BECAUSE THESE ARE GENERATED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NECESSARILY SOMEONE'S A VICTIM OF AN OFFENSE.
IT MEANS WE'RE CATCHING MORE PEOPLE DOING THINGS BAD AND WE'RE PUTTING THEM IN JAIL.
SO WITH MORE OFFICERS ON THE STREET WITH, WITH EVERYBODY OUT DOING THEIR JOB, DOING MORE TRAFFIC CONTROL, DOING SO MORE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, THEY TEND TO COME ACROSS MORE THINGS.
AND SO THOSE NUMBERS SPIKE A LITTLE BIT.
ENDING THE HIGHEST IN 2024 TO 322.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THIS PAGE, SO I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S CONFUSING TO LOOK AT, BUT THIS IS THE UNIVERSAL CITY CALLS FOR SERVICE.
THIS INCORPORATES ALL OF THESE NUMBERS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND ALL THE ADDITIONAL CALLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE TAKE ON THE COURSE OF A YEAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REPORT FOR UCR.
UH, IT WOULD COVER YOUR, UH, ALARM CALLS, UH, SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY, TRANSIENT CALLS, CAR CRASHES, UH, SO ANY, UH, BASICALLY EVERYTHING ELSE WE DO THAT, THAT'S NOT ON THE SHEETS THAT I GAVE YOU, FALLS INTO THIS.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, 2020 WE STARTED WITH 14,300 CALLS, UM, GOES UP TO 18,000 THEN TO NEARLY 21 BACK DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN 2023.
AND THEN DOWN IN THIS YEAR, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT HAS GONE UP.
UH, IN 2023 WE STARTED THE TRAFFIC UNIT.
SO YOU CAN SEE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT JUMP FROM 2022 TO 2023.
AND THEN ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT JUMP AS IT WAS FULL TIME FOR ALL OF 2024 ED IS THOSE ARE EMERGENCY DETENTIONS, THOSE ARE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, UH, WHERE SOMEONE IS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY AND TRANSPORTED TO A HOSPITAL FOR A MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION.
UM, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE STAYED RELATIVELY EQUAL THROUGHOUT ALL THOSE YEARS.
AND THEN THE MENTAL HEALTH IS A NEW, NEW THING THAT CAME ALONG WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM THAT WE'VE STARTED.
THOSE ARE CALLS THAT ARE MENTAL HEALTH RELATED WHERE WE OFFER ASSISTANCE, PROVIDE SERVICES THAT DON'T QUITE MEET THE, THE CRITERIA TO PUT SOMEONE INTO THE HOSPITAL.
BUT WE'RE STILL PROVIDING A SERVICE.
WE'RE STILL SPENDING TIME AND, AND OUT WITH THOSE PEOPLE FOLLOW UP CALLS IF WE WERE THERE MAYBE A WEEK BEFORE, JUST TO GO BACK AND CHECK AND MAKE SURE SOMEBODY'S GOOD.
SO FOR A TOTAL FOR THE YEAR, YOU'LL SEE, UH, 2020 WAS COVID YEAR.
SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT DOWN, PROBABLY BELOW NORMAL 21 IS GETTING BACK TO NORMAL AND 22 TO 24 WE'RE ABOUT THE 30,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE RANGE.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE STEADILY BEEN.
THIS IS JUST A KIND OF A VISUAL TO HELP GO OVER WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
THE TOP BLUE LINE IS OUR TOTAL OFFENSES.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE HIGHEST NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S EVERYTHING COMBINED AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S RELATIVELY STABLE.
THERE'S A SPIKE IN 2023 AND THEN IT ENDS AT A BELOW, BELOW
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AVERAGE RATE FOR CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY.THE BULK OF WHAT WE HANDLE, AGAIN, IT STAYS RELATIVELY FLAT.
YOU GOT A LITTLE SPIKE IN 2023 WITH THE ECONOMY AND THOSE CONDITIONS AND THEN IT DROPS BACK DOWN TO BELOW AVERAGE LEVELS.
OUR CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS ARE RELATIVELY LOW AND RELATIVELY FLAT, AND THEN OUR CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY IS THE BOTTOM ONE.
AND YOU SEE THE SLIGHT UPTICK AT THE END WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE PICKING UP.
UM, JUST TO FINISH UP, THIS IS, THIS IS ABOUT THE END OF IT.
UM, BASICALLY EVERYTHING REMAINS PRETTY, PRETTY EVEN FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
THIS IS A LONG TERM STUDY FOR US IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN 2025 TO 2020.
SO THIS IS LONG TERM IN OUR VIEW, IN BETWEEN ALL OF THESE YEARS AND EACH OF THESE MONTHS AND WEEKS AND DAYS AS IT GOES BY.
LITTLE SPIKES HAPPEN HERE AND THERE AND OUR OFFICERS ARE PROACTIVE.
THEY'RE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
WE HAVE BOARDS IN THE BACK THAT HAVE OUR CALLS FROM THE PREVIOUS NIGHTS, AND SO WE PAY ATTENTION TO CERTAIN AREAS.
WHEN WE SEE CRIME TRENDS START TO GO IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION, WE SEND SELECTIVE PATROLS.
WE DO THINGS TOGETHER IN THOSE AREAS TO TRY TO MINIMIZE ANY OF THESE MAJOR SPIKES THAT YOU GET.
AND THAT'S WHY IT STAYS RELATIVELY STABLE.
AND LOOKING AT THE OTHER SURROUNDING AGENCIES, THE COUNTY, THE CITY, OUR NUMBERS ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
OUR SIDE, OTHER CITIES ON THIS SIDE OF BEXAR COUNTY, OUR NUMBERS ARE, ARE IN THE SAME RANGE AS WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GOOD? YEAH, THOSE ME.
WE'RE ABOUT JUST THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER HERE IN BEAR COUNTY.
STATISTICALLY, I MEAN, ON, ON, ON THE TRENDS, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE SEE.
OUR NUMBERS ARE, ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO WHAT LIVE OAK IS, TO WHAT SELMA IS, TO WHAT CONVERSE IS.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE HIGHER AND LOWER, OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALL IN ALL, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF OFFENSES WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO ALL OF THEM.
AND THEN ON THOSE ED CALLS, IS THAT WHEN, WHEN THE OFFICER HAS TO TAKES, UH, SOMEONE, DO YOU LOSE THAT OFFICER JUST ABOUT THE ENTIRE DAY? NO, NOT, IT'S GOTTEN A LOT BETTER.
IS IT BETTER NOW? UH, WE USED TO, BUT NOW IT, IT IS GOTTEN VERY STREAMLINED AND WITH THE HELP OF EMS, THEY CALL EMS WILL SHOW UP.
THEY'LL CALL AND FIND OUT WHICH HOSPITAL THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO, AND SOMETIMES EMS WILL TRANSPORT 'EM.
MOST OF THE TIME WE DO LY SEND AN OFFICER.
IT'S A MATTER OF FILLING OUT A COUPLE FORMS AND THEY'RE BACK.
IT'S QUICKER THAN TAKING SOMEBODY TO JAIL.
MR. COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILMAN RATHER, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE LION'S SHARE OF THE RESOURCE ON THOSE CALLS IS UPFRONT THE INTERVIEW PROCESS WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO DECIPHER AND DISCERN WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED TO GO AND GET THAT TYPE OF HELP.
SO YOU SPEND A LOT OF UPFRONT INTERVIEW AND TALKING TIME, INTERVIEWING, UH, RELATIVES, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR THAT SITUATION.
THE AFTER THE AFTER PART, THE ACTUAL TRANSPORT.
THAT, TO CHIEF'S POINT, THAT'S BEEN STREAMLINED QUITE A BIT WITH, UH, MEDCOM AND SOME OF THE OTHER RESOURCES WE HAVE AROUND THE STATE NOW.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, THERE HAS BEEN PERCEPTION, UM, BY THE C HE EXPRESSED IN THE PAST THAT THERE ARE PART THAT THE CRIME RATE HAS INCREASED ALSO.
ESSENTIALLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WEBSITES THAT SHOW US NOT DOING WELL COMPARED TO NA, NATIONAL AVERAGES.
AND FOR FBI STATISTICS, THERE'S A GENERAL DECREASE IN CR IN, IN, IN ESSENTIALLY, UM, UH, VIOLENT AND PROPERTY CRIMES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
IT'S KIND OF PLATEAUING, BUT IT'S KIND OF DECREASING.
SO IN THESE NUMBERS, WHAT ARE WE COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT ARE OUR NUMBERS PER THOUSAND? YOU KNOW, I GUESS, I GUESS I CAN CALCULATE THAT, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S THE REAL COMPARISON.
IT'S ON THE SHEET THAT RIGHT THERE ON THE SHEET.
AND, UH, SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
UM, IS THERE, UH, A NATIONAL AVERAGE RATE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS? SO DID YOU PROVIDE THAT ALSO SOMEWHERE IN THIS REPORT? SO, SO WE CAN SAY THAT, UH, WHENEVER THE REALTORS SAY, OH, AND THEY LITERALLY DO WE HAVE A D MINUS RATING AS FAR AS CRIME IN, UH, UNIVERSAL CITY COMPARED TO OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES, UM, UH, THEY USUALLY COMPARE THAT WITH THE, UM, NATIONAL RATE PER THOUSAND OR PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO, UM, CAN YOU BACK UP TO THE D MINUS RATING, SIR? AND I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I'D LIKE TO HANDLE ONE, ONE ISSUE AT A TIME.
WHERE ARE, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THAT? I'VE NEVER, I'M, I'M UNFAMILIAR AND I'M A REAL ESTATE AGENT.
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MARY, NO OFFENSE.I KNOW, I KNOW, I'M JUST KIDDING.
BUT WE, BUT AS A REAL ESTATE AGENT, I, I, I'VE NEVER SEEN A D MINUS RATING FOR UNIVERSITY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT SITES YOU'RE REFERENCING, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE THOSE SITES ARE.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD DATA.
YOU KNOW, DATA IN IS GOOD AND, YOU KNOW, BAD IN, BAD OUT.
RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING DIDN'T HELP ME, SIR.
I'M NOT SURE THE ONLY RIGHT, RIGHT.
WELL, THAT'S WHY THIS DOESN'T HELP THAT MUCH.
UH, THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, UH, SENT I, I'LL GIVE YOU THIS.
IN FACT, IF YOU GO TO THE COUNCIL MESSAGE BOARD, ALL OF THESE SITES ARE REFERENCED.
SO JUST LOOK AT THE COUNCIL REFERENCE BOARD AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIND THEM.
THE SITES, WE DON'T, WE DON'T USE THOSE.
WE USE UCR IN THE FEDERAL SITES THAT ARE ACCURATE.
UM, FAIRLY ACCURATE CRIME REPORTING SITES.
WE, WE REPORT TO THE CRIME SITES THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT TO BY LAW, AND THOSE ARE THE SITES WE USE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE REAL ESTATE ONES THAT HE SEES IS THE ALGORITHM THAT IS USED ON THE INTERNET.
IF ONE FIRM POINTS THAT OUT AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE PICKS IT UP AND REUSES IT AND THEN REUSES IT, THEN WHEN SOMEBODY TYPES IN CRIME RATE IN UNIVERSAL CITY, THAT ONE HAS BEEN USED SO MANY TIMES, IT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT POPS UP.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL.
WELL, WELL, AGAIN, IT, IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE US RATE REPORTED BY THE FBI STATISTICS AND COMPARE THAT TO OUR RATE AS, AS A REASONABLE THING TO DO.
UM, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE FLAT PLATEAU THERE, UH, DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE US CONTEXT VERSUS THE, THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
AND IN SAN ANTONIO, WE'RE HIGHER IN DALLAS, IT'S HIGHER THAN SAN ANTONIO AND ALL THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE IS A NUMBER OF RATE PER PER THOUSAND.
THAT'S SORT OF A NORMAL NORMALIZING NUMBER.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO APPRECIATE IS WHERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS OR THESE CRIMES OCCURRING, AND A 2019 REPORT PROBABLY DERIVED FROM YOUR REPORT, BECAUSE IT HAS A SIMILAR FORMAT, ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS THAT MOST CRIME IS IN THE HOME, YOU KNOW, TYPE THING.
AND, UH, SO, UM, WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, HAVE THE HIGHER PROPERTY CRIME RATES OR HAVE THE HIGHER, UH, RATES OF, UH, VIOLENCE, UH, WITHIN, WITHIN THE FAMILIES AND, AND ESSENTIAL THAT ALLOWS US TO OBVIOUSLY DIRECT RESOURCES TO THOSE AREAS.
RIGHT? UM, AND, AND SO IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO APPRECIATE WHETHER THE FLOCK CAMERAS HAVE HAD ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON LOCAL CRIME.
THEY'VE, THEY'VE HAD IMPACT ON CRIME, THAT'S CRIMINALS THAT HAVE COME FROM OUTSIDE OUR CITY, BUT DOES IT HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE PROPERTY CRIMES WITHIN CORONADO OR THOSE AREAS THAT RUN PARALLEL TO 1604 WITH EASY ENTRY AND, AND EXIT, UH, TYPE THINGS.
THAT'S KIND OF THE THING THAT I, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME INSIGHT, UH, ON BECAUSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YEAH, THIS TRUCK WAS BROKEN INTO, YOU KNOW, THEY STOLE MY TOOLS, DA, DA DA DA.
AND IT, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO HEAR THAT, UH, IN SOME AREAS OF THE CITY.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, IT, IT IS BEEN SAID THAT THERE ARE TEENAGERS THAT WALK DOWN SIDEWALKS LOOKING FOR OPEN DOORS WITH A CAR TRAILING BEHIND, UH, GARAGE DOORS.
AND SO THEY DO A QUICK, QUICK RUN THROUGH IN THE, IN THE, UH, MIDDLELAND AREA, UH, TYPE THING.
SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THE PERCEPTION THAT'S EXPRESSED, AGAIN, IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND JUST WALKING AROUND ON, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT HERE AS FAR AS LOCALITIES WITHIN THE CITY.
AND, UH, AND AS FAR AS COMPARISON TO A NATIONAL NUMBER, WELL, WITH THE MONTHLY STAT REPORTS THAT, THAT YOU ARE PROVIDED, THOSE NUMBERS ARE BROKEN DOWN MORE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAN THIS.
THIS WAS AN OVERALL TRI CRIME TREND FOR OUR CITY.
UH, SO YOU DO SEE SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE GROUPS WHERE OUR CALLS, CALLS FOR SERVICE GO TO BROKEN DOWN BY DISTRICT.
AND WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO EARLIER WHEN THE GRAPH WAS UP WAS WHEN WE START TO NOTICE IF WE'RE GETTING MORE CALLS FOR BURGLARIES IN A CERTAIN AREA, OR MORE CALLS FOR SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY IN A PARK, OR MORE TRANSIENT ACTIVITY SOMEWHERE, WE FOCUS OUR RESOURCES IN REAL TIME ON GOING THERE.
THE, THE FBI'S NATIONAL CRIME TRENDS.
I, I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE CRIME TRENDS IN OUR LOCAL REGIONAL AREA OF WHERE WE'RE AT BECAUSE SEATTLE, WASHINGTON AND NEW YORK CITY, AND EVERY LITTLE TOWN IN BETWEEN IS, IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN
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WHAT WE HAVE HERE.SO THERE, THERE, THERE NUMBER OF FLUCTUATIONS COULD BE HUGE COMPARED TO OUR PERCENTAGES.
WE GO FROM ZERO ZERO MURDERS TO ONE MURDER, THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE.
BUT I'M IN OUR LOCAL AREA AND WHAT, WHAT WE FOCUS ON AND WHAT WE TRY TO LOOK AT IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR, IN OUR SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HAS IS AND HAS BEEN ALWAYS IN THIS AREA AND AROUND US.
AND FROM 2020 TO 2025, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND OUR POPULATION HAS INCREASED AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE CITY HAS INCREASED, YET THE NUMBERS HAVE REMAINED THE SAME.
SO THAT MEANS THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
WELL, WELL, AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S A NORMAL, THERE'S A NORMALIZATION THAT CAN BE DONE WITH COMPARISON BASED ON ONE, UH, 1000 PE 1000 PEOPLE, UH, 1000 RESIDENTS, UH, TYPE THING.
JUST, AND, AND JUST FFYI, SIR.
UM, ESSENTIALLY GOING BACK TO 2019, COMPARED TO 2024, THERE WAS A 27% DECREASE IN, IN CITATIONS OF 42% DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF EARNINGS, WHICH IS ALL GOOD TRENDING, UH, TRENDING DOWN TYPE THING.
AND AS FAR AS ARRESTS, THERE WAS A, UH, 59 TO 60% DECREASE IN THAT LARGER SPAN OF TIME, WHICH PRETTY MUCH GOES ALONG WITH THE NATIONAL TREND FOR, FOR A DECREASE.
SO, SO I THINK IT'S THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING LOCALLY.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT, THAT THE, THE TREND HA HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR OUR COUNTRY.
AND THE, I MAY INTERRUPT ONE SECOND.
I I, IS THERE A QUESTION HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS TURNING INTO A LECTURE.
PLEASE JUST, JUST ASK THE QUESTION.
CAN, CAN YOU PROVIDE THE CRIME STATISTICS PER NEIGHBORHOOD? YOU STATED THAT IT'S ON THE REPORT, BUT THE Z WHAT WE FIND IN THE Z REPORT TAB HAS TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC, NOT WITH CRIMES.
AND THE ZONES THAT ARE PROVIDED ARE NOT RELATED TO, UH, RED, UH, RED HORSE OR CORONADO OR MEADOWLAND OR CIVIL CROSSING, YOU KNOW, TYPE THING.
COULD WE GET THAT SORT OF RESOLUTION IN THE, IN THE REPORTS, JUST TO TRACK WHAT'S GOING ON? WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
I'LL, I'LL TALK TO OUR ANALYST TO TONY AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO, TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOGETHER.
WE'LL SEE, THEY CAN'T DO IT BY INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU CAN'T, CAN'T DO IT BY INDIVIDUAL SUBDIVISIONS.
I MEAN, LOOK AT OLYMPIA ALONE.
CORONADO IS, WE CALL IT THE CORONADO SUBDIVISION.
IT'S BROKEN UP INTO FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT BY SUBDIVISION, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT SUBDIVISION PLAT, SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO IT BY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHY THEY HAVE QUADRANT.
WE HAVE FIVE DISTRICT AND THOSE CAN SEE EM.
WE ONLY HAVE LIKE FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I MEAN, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF IN THE DISTRICTS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT OLYMPIA IS IN, IN THE, IT TAKES UP THE LION'S SHARE OF ONE DISTRICT.
YOU CAN SEE THE CORONADO OCCUPIES THE LION'S SHARE OF ANOTHER DISTRICT.
WE COULD RUN IT BY STREET IF YOU WANTED IT, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF RESOURCES ON OUR END TO DO THAT.
WE, WE FIGURED, WE POLICE BY DISTRICTS, WE ASSIGN OFFICERS BY DISTRICTS.
WE, UH, TROUBLESHOOT AND HOT AND, UH, HOTSPOT CRIME, UH, UH, DETER BY DISTRICTS.
WE WOULD REPORT BY DISTRICTS, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DIG, WE CAN TAKE DEEPER DIVES.
IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE MORE EFFORT FROM, FROM STAFF AND TAKES AWAY FROM OTHER DUTIES THAT THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
IT, IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR, FOR WHAT? JUST, JUST TO, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO DO IT BY DISTRICT, UH, ESSENTIALLY TO GIVE THE CRIME REPORT BY DISTRICT.
AGAIN, THE ONLY THING THAT I'M SEEING, UH, ON THE AGENDA IS ESSENTIALLY TRA UH, TRAFFIC CRIME SHOULD BE ON THERE AS WELL.
SIR, I, I KNOW THAT WE'VE RAN, WE'VE, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT LAST, THE CRIME, THE DATA WAS ON THERE AS WELL.
BUT WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL BEING REPORTED THAT WAY.
CRIME TRAFFIC CRASHES, DWIS, ALL THAT'S REPORTED ON THE, UH, ON THE SEAT REPORTS ON THIS SORT OF FORMAT.
MAYOR
I DON'T KNOW IF DAN HANCOCK IS STILL PROVIDING THOSE REPORTS, BUT HE DOES ONE BY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY MONTH, SO THEY DO EXIST.
DAN HANCOCK, WHO'S A MEMBER OF CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY, HE GETS IT FROM THEM.
BUT HE BREAKS IT DOWN INTO, HE DRILLS IT OUT.
NEIGHBORHOOD OPTION, I THINK CLOSER TO REPORT.
I MEAN, I THINK BERNIE COULD GET ON THAT LIST AND THEN HE COULD GET THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY, OR HE COULD JOIN THE U-C-P-A-A-A-A-A.
MR. SHELBY, I THANK YOU MR. MURPHY.
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I'M GONNA START WITH AN OPINION.I'VE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I THINK CRIME IS AT OR LOWER THAN IT WAS WHEN I GREW UP HERE.
UM, I'VE LIVED PRETTY MUCH IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA OF THIS CITY, UM, ON, UH, OTHER THAN MAYBE ABOUT SIX YEARS OVER IN, UH, MEADOWLAND IN THE SEVENTIES.
UM, DON'T REMEMBER A LOT OF CRIME BACK THEN.
DON'T REMEMBER A LOT OF PROBLEMS BACK THEN.
UM, I, I JUST, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PERCEIVED CRIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REPORTING, THEY'RE REPORTING THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THEY'RE NOT CALLING THE POLICE IF YOU DON'T CALL THE POLICE.
IT DOESN'T END UP IN THE, IN THE, THE NUMBERS.
SO, JUMPING BACK OUT OF MY OPINION, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US COME OUT OF A COMPUTER THAT IS PULLED FROM ALL OF THE CALLS YOU GUYS TAKE.
THIS IS NOT BEING GENERATED BY MULTIPLE ALGORITHMS THAT ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE STUFF.
'CAUSE THE INTERNET DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THESE NUMBERS.
SO WHEN A, WHEN A, UM, REALTOR SITE, UM, AND THE NUMBER ONE OF 'EM THAT, THAT GO OUT THERE AND TRY AND SELL A HOUSE, THEY'RE TRYING TO SCRAPE DATA WHEREVER THEY CAN, BUT THEY'RE NOT PULLING THIS DATA.
THEY'RE NOT, YOU GUYS AREN'T RECEIVING, UH, REQUESTS FROM REALTORS TO PROVIDE THIS DATA TO THEM.
SO I'M GONNA GO OFF OF THE DATA YOU'RE GIVING ME, WHICH TELLS ME THAT CRIME IS RELATIVELY FLAT.
UM, LOOKING AT THE, UM, CRIME PER CAPITA, COMPARING OURSELVES TO OTHER PLACES.
I MEAN, IF CRIME AS A WHOLE IN THE COUNTRY GOES UP, WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE SAME COMPARISON AS, AS WE WERE BEFORE, BECAUSE THE CRIME PER CAPITA WILL GO UP FOR EVERYBODY.
SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SIT THERE AND TRY AND COMPARE US TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
WHAT I KNOW IS THAT EVEN AS SAFE AS I LIVE IN THE CITY, I LOCK MY CAR.
IF IT'S PARKED OUTSIDE, I DON'T LEAVE THINGS OUT TO WHERE THEY CAN BE SEEN.
I DON'T LEAVE ANYTHING IN MY CAR.
I WANT, I, IF, IF, IF I WANTED TO GET STOLEN, I'D LEAVE IT IN MY CAR.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW I THINK ABOUT IT.
UM, I'D LOVE TO LIVE BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN I WAS A KID IN THE MIDDLE OF, AND I'D GO VISIT MY GRANDPARENTS IN CENTRAL, SOUTH CENTRAL ILLINOIS, IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WHERE NOBODY LOCKS THEIR CARS.
BUT WE LIVE IN A, AN URBAN AREA, AND THAT'S JUST NOT EXPECTED.
SO I'D LOVE TO THINK THAT I CAN LEAVE ANYTHING OUTSIDE AND IT'S NEVER GONNA GET TAKEN.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.
SO WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH, EXCUSE ME, WITH CONCERN WITH IS, YOU KNOW, YES, PROPERTY CRIME IS AS IS A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, AND THAT WILL ALWAYS BE DRIVEN, AS YOU SAID, AND I'M GONNA AGREE WITH YOU, AS YOU SAID BY THE ECONOMY, IF PEOPLE ARE HURTING, THEY'RE GONNA TRY AND TAKE THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED.
UM, OR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY AND TAKE THINGS THAT THEY CAN THEN USE TO TRY AND SELL TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE.
UM, BUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MURDER RATE IS PRETTY MUCH AS IT AS IT WAS.
I, YOU KNOW, I I I REMEMBER HERE, AND WE HAVE SO FEW OF THESE, IT'S BIG NEWS WHEN IT HAPPENS, RIGHT? UM, I WOULD PREFER YOU GUYS DON'T SPEND MORE OF YOUR TIME BUILDING A STATISTICAL REPORTS AND MORE.
I, I'D RATHER YOU BE SPENDING THAT TIME MAKING SURE THE CITY'S SAFE.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME THING.
I FEEL LIKE YOUR TIME BEING PROACTIVE, I, I DO FEEL LIKE YOU LOOK AT TRENDS AND YOU RESPOND TO THEM APPROPRIATELY AND REDIRECT RESOURCES.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD LOTS OF SAFETY CONCERNS REFERENCED HERE IN COUNCIL OR TO, I SAID IN COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT I'VE FOUND IS I'VE HEARD OF SPEEDING BEING A REAL PROBLEM OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CRIMES.
UM, AND I, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE, WE, WE ARE ALWAYS, I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX ON WAYS TO MANAGE TO THAT.
AND I DO FEEL LIKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A SAFE COMMUNITY.
AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY'S POINT, I WOULD RATHER YOU SPEND TIME POLICING THE COMMUNITY VERSUS COMING UP WITH STATISTICAL REPORTING.
YOU DO GIVE OUT THE DISTRICT CRIME RATES.
I REMEMBER GETTING IT ONCE A MONTH OF WHAT DISTRICT HAS THE MOST CRIMES? WOULD, KNOWING WHAT STREETS MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON HOW YOU'RE PATROLLING, YOU'RE OUT MOVING AROUND.
I, I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF, IT'S A, IT'S ALWAYS A MOVING TARGET.
THERE'S NOT ONE SPECIFIC STREET OR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ALWAYS GONNA BE A VICTIM OF, OF SOME SORT OF
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PATROLS IN A AREA THAT HAS HAD MORE RECENT CALLS JUST TO KIND OF KEEP WAVE VEHICLE.
IT'S USUALLY GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT COME INTO TOWN.
THEY'RE HERE FOR A DAY OR TWO, AND THEN THEY LEAVE.
THEY GO TO ANOTHER CITY AND THEY BOUNCE ALL AROUND.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE WAY THEY DON'T GET CAUGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT I HEAR, YOU KNOW, IS WE SEE OUR POLICE OUT EVERYWHERE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE A SMALL TOWN, BUT
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WOW, WE HAVE A PATROLMAN EVERYWHERE.OF COURSE, UNLESS SOMEONE RUNS A RED LIGHT, THEN YOU'RE NOT AROUND.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOUR NUMBERS ARE GREAT.
STAY OUT ON THE STREET AND PROTECT US.
THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH, CHIEF.
DOES ANYBODY NEED TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK BEFORE WE SEAT INTO THE OPEN MEETING? I WOULDN'T TURN IT DOWN.
TAKE, LET'S TAKE, UH, EIGHT MINUTES AND COME BACK IN AT FIVE TILL DOING SO.
THANKS FOR STAYING THE, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[6. PUBLIC HEARINGS]
NOW IT COMES INTO THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OF OUR PORTION OF OUR, UM, COUNCIL MEETING.UH, THE FIRST ONE IS A ORDINANCE, UH, 6 70 20 25 DESIGNATION OF REUNION DISTRICT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE.
UH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND AT, UH, EIGHT 50, I'M SORRY, 7 55.
AS YOU KNOW, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, UH, I PRESENTED TO YOU, UH, THE CRITERIA, UH, FOR TAX ABATEMENT.
THE SECOND ONE IS TO, UH, DESIGNATE THE REINVESTMENT ZONES.
AND SO YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHY WE JUST DIDN'T DO 'EM AT THE SAME TIME.
IT'S BECAUSE STATE LAW REQUIRES THIS WHEN WE'RE DOING THE REINVESTMENT ZONES THAT I SENT OUT CERTIFIED MAIL TO ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES IN BEXAR COUNTY.
AND OF COURSE I HAD TO DO IT IN, UH, GUADALUPE COUNTY AS WELL, NOTIFYING THEM THAT WE'RE INTENDING TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.
UM, THEY ALL RECEIVED THEIR LETTERS.
I GOT ALL MY CERTIFIED MAIL CERTIFICATES BACK.
NOBODY CALLED WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
NONE OF THEM ARE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT MAYOR, UH, I HAVE NO FURTHER INFORMATION OTHER THAN THIS IS FOR THE REUNION, UH, PROJECT.
AND IT DOES ENCOMPASS THE WHOLE THING AGAIN, UM, REMINDING YOU THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE CRITERIA, AND JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE REINVESTMENT ZONE WHEN YOU RECEIVE AN APPLICATION, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT ANYBODY RECEIVES ANYTHING.
EVERY PROJECT STANDS ON ITS OWN.
AND SO THIS IS JUST TO GET THAT PROCESS STARTED.
OKAY? UH, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THE, UM, OPEN HEARING, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BY, UH, CUSTOM, SINCE THIS IS KIND OF A LAST MINUTE, GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, UH, IT IS CLOSED AT, UH, 7 59.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE CLOCK UP THERE, 56 56 OPEN THE, OR EXCUSE ME, OPEN MEETING, EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC HEAT, EXCUSE ME.
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR ORDINANCE, UH, 6 71 20 25, DESIGNATION OF AVIATION DISTRICT REINVESTMENT ZONE ONE AT EIGHT 50, OR EXCUSE ME, 7 59.
I'M LOOKING AT EIGHT O'CLOCK THERE.
SO DID I WANT EVERYTHING THAT I SAID FOR THE REUNION? LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE AVIATION DISTRICT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN FOR THE AVIATION DISTRICT, THE PLAN SHOWS A LOT OF HOUSING IN THERE, WHETHER IT BE DUPLEXES OR SINK FAMILY, REMEMBERING THAT TAX ABATEMENTS ARE NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THEREFORE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.
AND YOU SAY, WELL, IF WE INTEND TO HAVE HOUSING, WHY DO YOU PUT THE WHOLE THING IN THERE? THAT'S A CONCEPT PLAN.
IT COULD VERY EASILY BE WHERE WE HAVE HOUSING, IT MIGHT SCOOT OUT AND BE MORE RETAIL.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I DID THE ENTIRE, UH, AVIATION DISTRICT.
AND LET'S JUST FACE IT, THE SURVEY WAS ALREADY DONE AND THE MAP WAS READY TO, SO IT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER, OTHERWISE WE'D HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO GO BACK AND REDRAFT IT.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE DID THE AVIATION DISTRICT.
UH, AGAIN, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THE AVIATION DISTRICT, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU THE COURTESY IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT EIGHT O'CLOCK.
I GOT THAT SITTING AROUND NOW.
ANY COUNSEL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? UM, MR. MAYOR, OUR, OUR COMMENTS CAN BE DIRECTED, UH, A LITTLE BIT LATER ON DURING THAT IS CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
[7. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
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CLOSE THAT OUT.LET'S GO WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT.
UH, CITY MANAGER ANNOUNCEMENTS.
I WILL FOREGO ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, THIS EVENING, SIR.
UH, MAYOR ANNOUNCEMENT, I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT, UH, ACTUALLY, I'LL FOREGO MY ANNOUNCEMENTS ALSO, AND WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, CUSTOM IS THE, MR. VAUGHN HAD THE, UH, INDICATION TONIGHT.
NOTHING FROM YOU, MAYOR, MR. GIL, MR. MILL.
UH, I'LL KEEP MINE VERY QUICK.
UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE UNIVERSAL CITY, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, UH, THE LOCAL RANDOLPH COMPOSITE SQUADRON CIVIL AIR PATROL, WORKED WITH THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY TO GO OUT AND PAINT FIRE HYDRANTS.
UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS AGO.
UM, I, I'M PLANNING ON TRYING TO, UM, GATHER SOME OF THEM IN SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE THEIR MEETING AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE COUNCIL IS, SO IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE.
AND I DON'T WANNA MESS UP THEIR MEETING, BUT, UM, WE WENT AND I BELIEVE WE PAINTED ABOUT 40, CLOSE TO 40 FIRE HYDRANTS IN THE OLYMPIA AREA.
UM, SO, UH, GREAT JOB ON THE KIDS' PARTS, COMING OUT ON A SATURDAY MORNING AND SPENDING A SOLID TWO, TWO AND A HALF HOURS PAINTING, FIRE HYDRANTS.
UH, AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH US TO LET US DO THAT.
MS. WHAT, UH, JUST THAT WE WENT TO A CONFERENCE DOWNTOWN US LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO NOW, I GUESS.
I THINK, UH, WE ALL SHOULD BE GOING TO STUFF LIKE THIS AND KEEP CAUGHT UP.
UH, MY OTHER THING IS, UH, WE WILL BE SOON SENDING OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE KENNY FAMILY, LIEUTENANT KENNY, WHO WAS, IS A RETIRED PD, NEW IS, UM, MAY NOT BE AROUND TOMORROW, AND WE'LL MISS HIM, AND WE THANK HIM AND KEEP YOU IN YOUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS.
UH, SECOND THAT THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, UH, UH, CONFERENCE WAS SUPERIOR.
IT TAUGHT, TAUGHT ME HOW MUCH I, UH, DON'T KNOW YET.
AND HOW MUCH, ESSENTIALLY OUR STAFF DOES KNOW
SO I, I APPRECIATED, UH, UH, ATTENDING THAT.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE ROUGH DRAFT IS UP ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH, UH, WE ASK THAT EVERYBODY GET THEIR INPUT IN.
THEY CAME AND GAVE US A PRESENTATION LAST WEEK.
I DON'T SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES FROM THAT PRESENTATION LAST WEEK.
I'LL JUST HAVE YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW.
UM, YEAH, I CALLED YOU UP, STILL LOVE YOU.
UM, BUT, UM, THAT IS OUT FOR EVERYBODY TO THROW THEIR COMMENTS, UH, TO EV BACK TO THE PEOPLE, AND SO THEY CAN GET AS MUCH INPUT AS POSSIBLE AS MAKES FOR A BETTER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I WILL SAY THAT I ACTUALLY ACTUALLY EMAILED THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT ATTENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND SHE ENCOURAGED US NOT TO ATTEND.
SO, HUH, MAYBE YOU SHOULD FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO HER.
AND I ALSO ATTENDED THE CONFERENCE, AND I DID WALK AWAY WITH INVALUABLE INFORMATION.
AND I WILL SAY, I KNOW THAT THIS WAS A CONFERENCE THAT, UM, THE CITY HAD TO PAY FOR AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS VERY MUCH WORTH THE MONEY TO SEND US.
SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT AVAILABLE TO US.
[8. CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.UM, ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE ITEM OF MS. CONSIDERED ROUTINE, BUT CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN A REQUEST TO REMOVE ITEM A FROM THERE.
AND SO WE'LL ONLY BE VOTING FOR B THROUGH E MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
ANY DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
[8.A. Minutes of the 8 July 2025 Special Meeting - Budget Workshop. ]
CONSIDERATION FOR ITEM A, MR. AL.UH, FOR, FOR REASONS ASSOCIATED WITH PROCEDURE, UM, I, UH, UH, WOULD LIKE, UH, A VOICE VOTE BY THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR THAT AGENDA ITEM.
IS THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH? IS THERE, YEAH, FALSE.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE CONCERN? UH, THE CURRENT CONCERN WAS I BELIEVE THAT THE WORKSHOP MAY HAVE INADVERTENTLY VIOLATED THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT BY PRODUCING A WALKIN QUORUM.
AND, UH, UH, THAT'S THE REASON THAT I ASKED FOR ON, ON IT AT THIS TIME, SIR.
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CALL FOR A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE THE JULY 8TH, 2025 SPECIAL MEETING BUDGET WORKSHOP.ANY DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
[9. ACTION ITEMS]
ACTION ITEM 20 25 26.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, WE SHOULD HAVE BEFORE YOU THE PRESENTATION FOR THE FISCAL 2026, UM, PROPOSED BUDGET.
NEXT SLIDE FOR ERROR, APPARENTLY.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCLUDES THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR EXISTING STAFF.
WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY ADDITIONAL STAFFING.
THE COST OF INSURANCE EXPENSES IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE BY 35%.
THAT'S THE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT THE CITY HAS AVAILABLE TO EMPLOYEES.
WE COVER A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR EMPLOYEES, BUT THEN THEY COVER FOR THEIR, UM, FAMILIES.
UM, SO THE GENERAL FUND, AGAIN, THE HIGHLIGHTS, THE ITEMS THAT WE REDUCED OR DEFERRED FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT WE, UM, HAD DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL IN JUNE WAS WE REMOVED, I'M SORRY, WE DEFERRED THE SPACE ASSESSMENT.
UM, SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS $135,000.
THE SUMMIT PARK AND SKATE PARK PLANNING HAS BEEN DEFERRED.
OIL AND LUBRICANTS, WE REDUCED FROM 55,000 TO 30,000.
UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UTILITY VEHICLE, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR 70, I'M SORRY FOR 90,000, HAS BEEN DEFERRED TO ANOTHER YEAR AND ALSO REDUCED TO 70,000.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, WAS WORKING ON THE OPTICON PREEMPTIVE PREEMPTIVE SYSTEM.
IT'S $55,000 ANNUALLY FOR A 10 YEAR TERM.
IT'S BEEN DEFERRED, BUT I DO KNOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THAT COST DOWN.
SO HERE YOU'LL SEE THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE REVENUE TO BE 20,532,000.
78% OF THAT IS REPRESENTED FROM OUR, UM, TAXES.
ADD THE ALARM IS 9.2, SALES TAX, 3.9 FRANCHISE FEES, 1.3.
AND THEN THE, FROM THE VENUE TAX, WE'RE TRANSFERRING A MILLION DOLLARS THIS FISCAL YEAR.
NOW THE GENERAL FUND DOES CONSIST OF 15 DEPARTMENTS AND I DON'T THINK I NEED TO LIST THEM ALL.
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE HERE HAS, HAS SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE.
BUT WE DO HAVE 15 DEPARTMENTS.
UH, THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE CHANGES BY DEPARTMENT ARE LISTED HERE.
WE HAVE FOUR DEPARTMENTS THAT DECREASED FROM THE, FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET.
UH, GENERAL SERVICES IS DOWN 196,000.
THIS IS RELATED TO SIGNAL MAINTENANCE AND GRANT MATCHES THAT ARE NO LONGER IN THAT BUDGET.
ANIMAL SHELTER IS $93,000 LESS, AND THAT'S CONTRACT SERVICES AND SOME COSTS THAT WERE RELATED TO PURCHASING A VEHICLE OR ONE TIME CAPITAL COST.
THE LIBRARY IS DOWN BY 13,000.
THEY HAD TO PAY SOME FEES IN THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE DECREASING BY ALMOST $10,000 BECAUSE OF, UM, AUDITING COSTS HAVE BEEN REDUCED, PRIMARILY BECAUSE MY STAFF IS DOING MOST OF THE GENERAL INJURIES THAT ARE YOU NORMALLY DONE BY THE AUDITORS? UH, THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES CONTINUE WITH INCREASES BY DEPARTMENT, NON-DEPARTMENTAL INCREASING BY 364,000.
THIS IS PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE HEALTH INSURANCES THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER.
UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT IS 318,000.
THIS IS SALARIES, CONTRACT SERVICES, SUPPLIES AND MAINTENANCE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS $111,000 INCREASE.
IT'S FUNDING THAT IS RELATED TO THE EMS, UM, SERVICES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE PROVIDED HERE.
UM, AS WELL AS MEMBERSHIPS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES INCREASED BY 77,000.
THAT'S MOSTLY RELATED TO, UM, THE PLANNING, EXPE PLANNING RELATED EXPENSES, PARKS AND RECS OVERALL CHANGED BY $35,000.
AND IS JUST PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
A VEHICLE MAINTENANCE INCREASED BY $8,000.
THE $8,000 IS RELATED TO TRAINING THAT I BELIEVE HAS SOMETHING TO
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DO WITH DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENT, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO RANDY TO, TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THAT TRAINING IS.AND HUMAN RESOURCE HUMAN RESOURCES INCREASED BY 20,000 BECAUSE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING AN FM FMLA AND THE EEOC CLAIMS SOFTWARE.
IT, UM, ALLOWS STAFF NOT TO HAVE TO BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH SOME OF THESE COMPLAINTS.
UM, AND IT DOES ALLOW A LITTLE, UH, ANONYMITY TO THE PERSON THAT ARE FILING.
SO NEXT IS OUR, OUR UTILITY FUND.
THE TOTAL REVENUES ANTICIPATED ARE 12,648,000.
TOTAL EXPENDITURE IS 11 MILLION.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE BROKEN DOWN PUBLIC WORKS, UTILITY, WATER, SEWER, NON-DEPARTMENTAL DEBT SERVICE.
AND THEN CAPITAL, WHICH IS RCIP.
UH, STORM WATER IS ACTUALLY A REALLY SIMPLE FUND.
IT HAS REVENUES OF 940,000 AND EXPENDITURES ANTICIPATED TO BE 766,000.
UM, THE HIGHLIGHTS TO THE GOLF COURSE PRIMARILY IS THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL ITEM REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THE BUDGET.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO ADDED, UM, A DEPARTMENT THAT IS, THANK YOU, A DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE CAPITAL OUTLAY, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY CAPITAL ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PURCHASED WITHIN THE GOLF COURSE FUND.
UM, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE GOLF COURSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE BUDGET IS ONLY REQUIRE OR REQUESTING $101,000 FROM THE VENUE TAX.
THE REMAINING PORTION THAT WOULD'VE GONE TO THE GOLF COURSE IS GOING TO STAY IN THE VENUE TAX FUND.
AND THEN WE'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL WILL ALLOW US TO USE IT FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THEY ARE PRETTY SELF-SUPPORTING.
THEY HAVE, UM, THEY'RE USING FUND BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY 25 OR 40,000.
OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'RE PRETTY SELF-SUPPORTING FOR THE NEW, THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
UM, THE DEBT SERVICE FUND WE'RE ANTICIPATING AT VALOREM TAXES TO COVER DEBT TO BE 2.1.
UM, 200, I'M SORRY, $2,100,000.
THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF THE INTEREST RATES ARE DROPPING.
UH, THEN THE BONDS ARE LISTED BELOW WITH THEIR EXPIRATION DATES OR THEIR, I'M SORRY, THEIR PAID IN FULL DATES.
UM, UTILITY DEBT SERVICE HERE IS COVERED BY WATER SALES REVENUE.
AND AGAIN, WE'VE LISTED THE EXPENDITURES OR THE BONDS BY, I'M SORRY, THE COS BY UM, DATE.
AND THEN THE EXPIRATION DATE IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE 2023 ROAD, UM, BOND RECONSTRUCTION, ALL THOSE STREETS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON ARE LISTED BELOW.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE CDBG, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE LISTED THERE TOO.
AND I KNOW EARLIER TODAY, UM, THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WAS INFORMED THAT THEY WERE AWARDED THE CDBG GRANT FOR THEIR GRANTING PORTION TO COVER THAT, TO COVER THE, UM, THEY WERE AWARDED THE CDBG STREET IMPROVEMENT GRANT.
UM, NEXT IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR UTILITY FUND, WHICH IS SEWER LINE REHAB, PROPERTY ACQUISITION, WATER TANK PAINTING, AND THEN ANNUAL, UM, WATER AND SEWER LINE REHAB PROJECTS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE STORM WATER ARE THE OAK CREEK PROPERTY CLEARING OAK MEADOWS DRAINAGE PROJECT BRUSH CLEANING.
AND THEN ALL THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH REVENUE THROUGH THE UM, STORMWATER FUND.
UM, THE SPECIAL REVENUES, WE HAVE 14 FUNDS WITHIN THE SPECIAL REVENUES.
UM, STATE LEGISLATION CHANGED AS OF MAY 29TH.
SO NOW WE'RE REQUIRED TO ALSO HAVE A FUND FOR CONSOLIDATED COURT AND TECH SECURITY.
WE'LL HAVE TO EXPEND WHAT'S IN COURT TECH AND COURT SECURITY BEFORE WE START USING ANY MONIES THAT ARE DEPOSITED INTO THE, UM, CONSOLIDATED COURT TECH AND SECURITY, UM, CONSOLIDATED ACCOUNT.
BUT AT LEAST IT WILL REDUCE THE, UH, IT WILL HELP THE CITY TO SPEND THE MONEY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE OF THE TWO FUNDS WE COULD HAVE USED FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER ITEM IN HERE WOULD BE MOST PROBABLY THE ARPA, WHICH THIS YEAR WE HAVE 170,000 APPROXIMATELY IN FISCAL YEAR 2026.
THAT'S GOING TO COVER THE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER FOR FIRE AND FOR PD.
KEEP IN MIND, WE WON'T HAVE THAT FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS.
JUST THIS NEXT, THIS WILL BE OUR LAST YEAR.
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NEXT SLIDE.VENUE TAXES BUDGETED AT $1.9 MILLION, A TRANSFER OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE GENERAL FUND TO COVER A PORTION OF PARKS AND RECREATIONS BUDGET.
THERE'S A TRANSFER FROM 108, I'M SORRY, 101,800 TO THE GOLF COURSE.
CAPITAL EXPENDITURES TOOK OVER GOLF CARTS AND THE REMAINING $800,000 WILL REMAIN IN THE VENUE TAX FUND.
UM, OR POSSIBLY FUTURE CIP PROJECTS WITHIN THE, UM, GOLF COURSE WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL.
AND THAT WOULDN'T BE THE BUDGET.
ANY QUESTIONS MR. RYAN? ON THE DEBT SERVICE, ON THE PRESENTATION, YOU HAD 2.1 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX, BUT I THINK THE BUDGET THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET HAD 1.8 WITH SOME FUND BALANCE BEING USED.
I DIDN'T CATCH THAT UNTIL I STARTED READING IT OUT.
SO YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT IS WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET, WHAT YOU'RE HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. RUBAL? UH, UH YES, SIR.
UM, WHAT PART, IF ANY OF THE $800,000 THAT REMAINS IN VENUE TAX, UH, CAN BE MOVED TO PARKS TO, UH, OFFSET ANY RELIEF IN PROPERTY TAX? UH, THAT'S, UH, WELL THE BUDGET IS 1.8 MILLION FOR THE PARKS.
I'M SORRY, I MEANT THE PARKS BUDGET IS 1.8 MILLION, SO WE ALREADY HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS, SO IT'S $800,000.
WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS OF THOUGH, IS THAT YOU DO HAVE GRANTS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES AS WELL.
AND IF FOR SOME REASON YOU DIDN'T MEET THE, UM, THE PAYROLL BUDGET FOR INSTANCE, OR IF SOMETHING DIDN'T HAPPEN WITHIN THE BUDGET, YOU RUN THE RISK OF DOUBLE DIPPING, UM, BETWEEN GRANTS AND THE REVENUE RECEIVED FROM THE, FROM THE, UM, VENUE TAX.
SO CURRENTLY I BELIEVE THE MATCH FOR THAT IS ABOUT 175,000.
SO THAT'S SEEMS TO BE, WELL, NOT THE MATCH, SIR.
THE ACTUAL AMOUNT WE RECEIVED FROM GRANTS FOR THE PARKS.
SO LET'S SAY DURING THE FISCAL YEAR, IF, UM, RANDY WERE TO FIND ANOTHER GRANT THAT COULD BE USED TOWARD PARKS, AND IT WAS FI IT WAS 50, I'M SORRY, $500,000.
IF THAT GRANT WAS AWARDED AND COUNCIL APPROVED THE, THE ACCEPTING OF THAT GRANT, THEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY AT $1.5 MILLION TOWARD THE, THE, UM, THE PARKS BUDGET, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
YES, IT FINALLY, IT FINALLY IS THERE, OKAY.
UH, THAT SAID IT DOES POINT TO LIMITATION AND IN, IN HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY IN, IN, IN VENUE TAX USE, UH, IN TOWARD THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE OF THIS SPLIT THAT OCCURS TO PARKS, THE LIMITATION OF PARKS AND UH, UH, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE STUCK RIGHT NOW.
WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE VENUE TAXES IS REQUIRED TO BE USED ON LINEAR PARKS.
SO WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, THE ONLY PARK BUDGET WE COULD USE IT ON WOULD BE BASICALLY THE PARKS BUDGET.
AND AGAIN, THE RATE LIMITING STEP IS THERE'S A LIMITATION GOING TO PARKS, UH, FOR EVEN IF, IF THE, UH, VENUE TAX, UH, WERE MORE OF AVAILABLE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, WE CAN'T GET TO IT AT THE PRESENT TIME BECAUSE THE LIMITATIONS THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED.
SO IT'S, I I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT, BUT NO, NO, I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.
I'M AGREEING WITH THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.
I'M ONLY SAYING THAT, THAT WE'RE AT THE LIMIT AND WE CAN'T REALLY GET ANY MORE RELIEF AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, FROM THE VENUE TAX, IF TAX RATES HAD TO INCREASE OR IF WE WANTED TO MOVE ULTIMATELY MONEY FOR FIRETRUCK OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, TYPE THING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE WORKSHEET FROM THE COUNTY AT 4 57 THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT LOOKED LIKE AN ANOMALY HIT THE NUMBERS LOOKED TO BE CORRECT, BUT I'LL STILL REVIEW IT AGAIN TOMORROW BEFORE I SIGN IT AND SEND IT BACK.
UM, SO THIS WILL BE OUR TAX RATE PRESENTATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, CALENDAR YEAR FOR TAXES FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26 FISCAL YEAR.
SO PROPERTY TAX IS A KEY SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS TEXAS.
THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL REPORTS THAT PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IS THE GREATEST CONTRIBUTOR TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION AND EXPENSES,
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PROPERTY TAXES ADD THE LOAN.SO HERE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE RECEIVED EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON.
UH, THE 2024 ADOPTED TAX RATE, AS YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION WAS, UM, 0.4 3 6 8 8 2.
DEBT SERVICE WAS 0.0 7 7 5 0 0 FOR A TAX RATE OF 0.5 1 4 3 82.
WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE, UM, HAVE A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION TAX RATE OF 0.4 4 2 0 0 0.
DEBT SERVICE IS 0.0 8 8 0 0 0.
THIS WILL BE USING PART OF THE DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE.
UM, AND THIS WILL LEAVE US WITH A TAX RATE OF 0.53.
IF YOU'LL NOTE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN THE RATE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
PLEASE CLICK THE SLIDE FOR THE SLIDE SLIDE.
I WAS WAITING TO SEE IF SOMEBODY WANTED A QUESTION.
SO BETWEEN NINE 20,019 IN 2024, THE TAX RATE FOR THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY HAS DECLINED BY APPROXIMATELY 8.70 CENTS FROM 0.60 TO 0.5144.
THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION PORTION DECREASED BY 4.9, INTEREST IN SINKING, DECREASED BY 1 1 5 3, I'M SORRY, DECREASE FROM 1 1 5 3 2 0.70775.
THIS IS PARTIALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THAT FUND BALANCE FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025, FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY, THE TAX RATE PROJECTED IS TO, IS TO INCREASE SLIGHTLY TO 1.5, I'M SORRY, 1.50 CENTS TO 0.5 3 0, 0 0.
OVERALL, THE CITY, I'M SORRY, THE CALENDAR YEAR 2019 TO 2025, THE TAX RATE HAS NOT INCREASED.
THE NET INCREASE IS APPROXIMATELY 7.10 CENTS.
THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO $1.4 MILLION IN LOSS REVENUE FOR EVERY PENNY.
IT'S, IT'S $200,000 TO THE CITY.
SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE
UM, SO HOW DOES PROPERTY TAX CHANGES IMPACT THE CITY? FOR EVERY PENNY UP OR DOWN IS EQUIVALENT TO APPROXIMATELY $200,000.
SO IF WE DECREASE THE TAX RATE BY ONE PENNY, IT WOULD BE $200,000.
IF WE INCREASE IT BY ONE PENNY, IT WOULD BE $200,000.
NOW, HOW DOES IT AFFECT A HOMEOWNER? OR HOW IS IT IMPACTED BY THAT 1 CENT CHANGE? 1 CENT CHANGE FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PROPERTY IS POINT IS 83 CENTS A MONTH, OR AN EQUIVALENT OF $10 A YEAR.
SO IF YOU HAVE A $300,000 HOME, YOU WOULD INCREASE BY $2 AND 48, I'M SORRY, 49 CENTS A MONTH FOR AN EQUIVALENT OF, OF THREE OF $30 A YEAR.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE.
YOU'RE PAYING 83, I'M SORRY, FORGIVE ME.
IF WE GO BY THE AVERAGE HOME, THE AVERAGE VALUE HOME HERE, WHICH IS $300,000, YOU'RE PAYING $2 AND 49 CENTS MORE A MONTH OR $30 MORE A YEAR FOR FIRE, POLICE, PARKS, WATER, UM, AND ALL THE OTHER SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY THE CITY LIBRARY ANIMAL SHELTER, THE, THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE? THE FLASH PADS.
UM, SO THAT $2 AND 49 CENTS OR $30 A YEAR AFFECTS THE CITY BY $200,000.
I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO, TO EXPLAIN IT, EXCEPT THAT FOR THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED, THAT SMALL ADDITIONAL AMOUNT REALLY ISN'T THAT GREAT.
BUT IT DOES AFFECT THE CITY TREMENDOUSLY IF WE, IF WE LOSE THAT PENNY.
UM, SO THEN THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO JUST SOME ITEMS TO CONSIDER FOR COUNCIL.
UM, ARPA FUNDS FOR SUPPORTING THE POLICE AND FIRE MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS WILL BE FULLY EXHAUSTED BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2025.
THE CITY'S GROWTH WILL DRIVE INCREASED DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL STAFFING.
THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX STANDS CURRENTLY AT 3%, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET.
UH, THE INCREASE WITHIN THE BUDGET, THE VALOR TAX RATE, AGAIN, HAS DECREASED BY APPROXIMATELY 7% FROM 2019, WHICH AGAIN IS EQUIVALENT TO $1.4 MILLION IN REVENUE TO THE CITY.
FOR EVERY ONE PENNY REDUCTION IN THE PROPERTY TAX, IT TAKES AT LEAST ONE YEAR FOR THE CITY TO RECOVER THAT LOST REVENUE, ASSUMING THAT THE PROPERTY TAX VALUE STAY STABLE.
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UH, THANK YOU.UH, OBVIOUSLY IN, IN IDENTIFYING THE RATE THAT'S NEEDED, ESSENTIALLY THERE, THERE ARE, UH, TWO SIDES THAT'S REVENUE IN TO THE GENERAL FUND AND EXPENDITURES.
THERE ARE A COUPLE MON, THERE ARE A COUPLE ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM WITH REGARD TO EXPENDITURES AND SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT.
THE ONE LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT I BROUGHT UP BEFORE THIS COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE FACT THAT THERE'S LEGAL DOCUMENTATION THAT STATES ESSENTIALLY THAT $80,000 IN BILLBOARD FUND IS ESSENTIALLY TARGETED TO THE CITY.
IT CITY OWNS THE BILLBOARD, THE CITY OWNS THE, THE REVENUE GENERATED BY IT, BUT YET IT'S BEING GEN, IT'S GOING TO THE GOLF COURSE.
AND SO THAT'S A LITTLE LOW HANGING FE AGAIN, UM, THAT'S JUST $80,000.
BUT I POINT OUT AGAIN THAT $80,000 TIMES 10 IS $800,000.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD RECOUP THAT NUMBER, NUMBER NUMBER TWO, WHENEVER, WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT TAX TAXES, ESSENTIALLY, DON'T FORGET, WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY THIS $200,000 IN AGGREGATE FOR EVERY PENNY.
SO, SO BASICALLY OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES HAVE $200,000 LESS.
FOR PENNY CHANGE? NO, A PENNY CHANGE.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CITIZENS RECEIVED $200 LESS, $200,000 LESS OF SERVICES FROM THE CITY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? HANG ON, WE'LL GET THE SERVICES IN A SECOND.
THE AGGREGATE THOUGH THAT THE IS LOST BY THE RESIDENTS IS $200,000 PER PENNY, RIGHT? I MEAN IT'S, I GUESS I DON'T, I DON'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, SIR.
COULD YOU RESTATE IT DIFFERENTLY? MAYBE? WELL, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST YOU, YOUR NUMBERS, 1 CENT CHANGE IS $200,000 TO THE CITY.
IT'S ALSO ESSENTIALLY $200,000 FROM THE RESIDENCE, WHICH IS WHAT SHE SHOWED ON SERVICES.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THAT $200,000 LESS REVENUE TO THE CITY AFFECTS THESE CITIZENS BY THAT AMOUNT.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IS LOST FROM THE RESIDENTS TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, CORRECT? NO, SIR.
SO WHERE DOES GO CITIZEN CITIZENS IF IT DOESN'T, IF IT'S GOING OUT OF THE RESIDENT'S POCKET TO THE CITY? WELL, A RESIDENT WITH A $500,000 HOME WOULD PAY $50 ADDITIONAL A YEAR.
I GUESS I DON'T YOU YOU PRESENTED US WITH AN AGRI TO GET NUMBER $200,000.
AND THAT'S TREMENDOUSLY IMPRESSIVE FOR EVERY PENNY THAT THE CITY, SIR, IF YOU ALLOW ME TO SPEAK FOR JUST A SECOND.
SO FOR EVERY PENNY THAT WE REDUCE OR RAISE THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX, OKAY, THAT'S $200,000 THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT HAVE COMING IN OR WOULD HAVE COMING IN EITHER WAY.
NOW, TO A CITIZEN, IT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD PAY, IF THEY HAVE A $300,000 HOME, THEY WOULD PAY $2 AND 50 CENTS MORE A MONTH.
SO I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR ANALOGY.
I'M SIMPLY SAYING WITH YOUR NUMBERS, THERE'S $200,000 FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO THE CITY.
SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S AN AGGREGATE LOSS PER PENNY OF TAXES OF $200,000 FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SO, UH, BASICALLY THE BIG ELEPHANT, THE BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM UHHUH, IS SALARIES.
WHAT IS THE TOTAL SALARY FOR OUR BUDGET? I MEAN, IT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THE BUDGET, RIGHT? YES, IT IS.
SO, SO, AND AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIMME THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST FOLLOW ME THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.
SO ESSENTIALLY WITHIN THAT SALARY, ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU TURN THIS INTO A STATEMENT? 'CAUSE IT'S BECOMING REALLY BECOMING KIND OF A LECTURE.
WELL, BASICALLY IT'S, IT'S EXPLAINING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS IN TONIGHT IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE INCREASE IN SALARY.
ONE, IF, IF WE CONTINUE WITH THE, UH, TWO, 2.5% STEP INCREASE THAT I'M NOT GONNA CHALLENGE.
HOWEVER, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THE COLAS.
COLAS ARE NOT GRANTED BY EVERY,
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IN EVERY MUNICIPALITY.AND BASICALLY, UM, A COLA RATE IS MY BUREAU OF LABOR AND STATISTICS IS APPROXIMATELY THREE, IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 2.5 TO 2.7% PERCENT.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, ESSENTIALLY IS THE COLA AN ITEM THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, UH, IN ORDER TO, YOU SAID 3%, PERHAPS IT COULD BE 2%.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, SIR, IT DOES.
SO THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION FOR COUNSEL TO HAVE.
THAT'D BE, IT WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND, UM, BUT OUR, OUR COLA IS, IS IN LINE WITH OTHER CITIES WITHIN, WITHIN THIS AREA, AND IT ACTUALLY IS NOT VERY HIGH.
WE'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN THE COLA TO BE SURE THAT DEPARTMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE HAVE A HIGHER INCREASE TO BE MORE COM COMPARE, COMPETITIVE, COMPETITIVE WITH THE EMPATHY AREA.
WE'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO BE SURE THAT THEIR COLA IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
SO THE, TO TO MAKE CLEAR, ESSENTIALLY THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE IS NOT THE SAME, UH, FOR ALL ALL EMPLOYEES AT THIS POINT IN THIS PROPOSAL? NO, SIR.
IT'S, IT'S IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE SHORTFALL IN SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO, SO AGAIN, FROM COUNCIL, WE, WE, WE CAN ESSENTIALLY SAY WE CAN DECREASE THE CO A LITTLE BIT AND PERHAPS EVEN DISTRIBUTE IT EVENLY THROUGH ALL EMPLOYEES.
WE DON'T WANNA DISTRIBUTE IT EVENLY, SIR, BECAUSE THEN THE, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED THE INCREASE WOULDN'T GET IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
IN THE PAST THE CITY HAS HAD A COLA OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, OF TWO, THREE, FOUR OR 5% ACROSS THE BOARD, WHATEVER.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL POSITIONS ARE BEING PAID AT A RATE THAT IS COMPARABLE.
I'M SORRY, TO COMPARABLE WITH TO CITIES AROUND US.
SO IN ORDER TO MEET THAT, WE HAD TO ADJUST IT A LITTLE BIT.
COST OF LIVING INCREASE VERSUS A COMPENSATION, ADEQUATE COMPENSATION FOR SALARY SEEM TO BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
IT'S NOT, THE COMPENSATION STAYS THE SAME.
FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY I MAKE $45 AN HOUR AND I GET AN INCREASE OF A DOLLAR.
THE COAL INCREASE STAYS WITH ME NEXT FISCAL YEAR WHEN IT STAYS WITH ME IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
MY RATE CHANGES AT THAT POINT TO THE NEW RATE.
SO I GUESS MAYBE IT'S JUST A DIFFERENCE IN, UM, IN VIEWS.
BUT THE LAST PART OF THE ELEPHANT IS ESSENTIALLY SALARY LEVELS IN THE CITY.
IF WE GO TO, UH, THE MAYORS OF FRIENDS THAT ARE ONE STAR GENERALS, TWO STAR GENERALS, THREE STAR GENERALS, FOUR STAR GENERALS, THEY'RE THE MAXIMUM SALARY OF A FOUR STAR GENERAL IS THE SAME AS A TWO STAR GENERAL.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M, I'M NOT IN THE MILITARY.
MY POINT IS, IT'S FIXED, IT'S FROZEN EVEN THOUGH, WELL, WE'RE TALKING APPLES AND TACOS, SO THERE'S NO CON COMPARISON WITHIN THAT ONE.
LET'S BRING IT IN WITH, WITH APPLE.
I GUESS, WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION, SIR? AND CAN WE NOT, CAN WE NOT FIX TOP SALARY RATES AT A LEVEL BELOW A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO HELP OFF, TO HELP OFFSET THE GENERAL BUDGET? SO YOU AND THE COUNCIL, YOU AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN, MAY, MAY I FINISH PLEASE? AND I'LL, I'LL, AND I'LL YOU'LL, BUT YOU DID ASK HER A QUESTION, MR. RUBAL, AND IF YOU DON'T ALLOW HER TO ANSWER, THEN I, THEN YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND CALL ME THAT.
SO COUNSEL HAS, HAS THE ABILITY TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, SIR.
IF COUNSEL DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO OR THEY WANT ME TO ADDRESS THE SALARIES AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN, I CAN, IF COUNSEL DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING OUTTA THE BUDGET, I CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S A COUNSEL DISCUSSION.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH.
I JUST WOULD NEED YOUR DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. SHARP? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
TO BE CLEAR, ONE PENNY IS AGAIN, HOW MUCH? 200,000, 200,000 OUT OF THE CITY BUDGET.
BUT ONE PENNY IS $2 AND 49 CENTS A MONTH TO $30 A YEAR FOR $300,000 HOME.
BUT THE CITIZENS ARE NOT CARRYING THE BURDEN OF THE ENTIRE $200,000 THAT IS COMING FROM THAT ONE STEP INCREASE BECAUSE WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT OWN BUILDINGS AND PROPERTY THAT ARE ALSO FOLLOWING THAT TAX RATE.
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PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE LARGE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE PAYING FAR MORE IN TAXES FOR THAT ONE PENNY INCREASE THAN OUR CITIZENS ARE.YES, I WOULD LOVE TO PAY LESS TAXES.
I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE.
I ALSO DON'T WANNA KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
'CAUSE THE FARTHER WE KICK YOU DOWN THE ROAD, THE MORE IT COSTS TO FIX IT.
SO IF I GOTTA PAY AN EXTRA TWO 50 OR WHATEVER IT COMES OUT TO FOR MY PROPERTY, I'LL PAY IT.
I'LL HAVE HALF OF A COFFEE, LESS A MONTH.
I KNOW I'M NOT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S HOUSE, UH, THERE'S PROPERTY IN THE CITY THAT'S FAR LESS THAN $300,000 IN VALUE.
SO THAT NUMBER DROPS SUBSTANTIALLY.
I'M GONNA MOVE INTO, SORRY, I'M GONNA MOVE INTO STATEMENT.
WE'RE A COMMUNITY AND OUR MONEY THAT WE'RE PAYING IN TAXES GOES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN THAT PROVIDES SERVICES FOR US.
IT DOESN'T GO INTO A CORPORATION AND GET SENT OUT INTO THE ETHER.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT PAYS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE, THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED.
IF WE WANT TO PAY BOTTOM DOLLAR FOR PEOPLE TO WORK HERE, WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH LESS PEOPLE WORKING FOR US.
OUR QUALITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
WE DON'T NEED TO BE PAYING MERRILL LYNCH PRICES.
THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, BUT WE DON'T WANNA BE PAYING TACO BELL.
I DON'T WANNA LIVE IN A TACO BELL CITY.
SO I'M WILLING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROPERLY PAYING OUR FIRE, POLICE, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, EXCUSE ME, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THEN, UH, ALL THE OTHER STAFF IN THE CITY, AN APPROPRIATE RATE.
I'D LOVE TO SEE A COLA IN MY JOB.
I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU GUYS GET THAT.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE WORKING FOR A CITY IS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM WORKING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT, BUT SAYING THAT 200 OR, UH, $200,000 IS COMING OUT OF THE CITY, THE, THE CITIZENS IS AN AGGREGATE, IS A FALSE STATEMENT BECAUSE THAT 200,000 GETS SPREAD ACROSS THE BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY.
SO, UM, I'M, I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT SOME NOTES, SO BEAR WITH ME.
UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.53 IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE? YES, SIR.
AND, UH, YEARS PAST WE HAVE SAID, HEY, HOW ABOUT THIS? NO NEW REVENUE.
RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE PUSHED, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU'VE STUCK AROUND.
AND THEN, SO YOU KINDA DID THAT, AND THEN, AND THEN YOU JUST ROUNDED IT OFF WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF ZEROS, SO YOU JUST MADE BY DAY.
UM, SO THEN, UH, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT MR. SHELBY SAID, UH, EXCEPT I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICE ARE PAID APPROPRIATELY AND THEN MAKE SURE THE FIRES PAID APPROPRIATELY.
UM, THE, UH, ON THE PAY, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, KEEPING UP WITH THE JONESES.
I DON'T WANT TO BE ABOVE THE JONESES.
I DON'T WANNA BE BELOW THE JONESES.
I WANT TO BE RIGHT IN THERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR PUBLIC WORKS GUYS, EVEN OUR FIREFIGHTERS, TO GO TO ONE OF THE LOCAL, OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US BECAUSE OF THE PAY.
UM, MY NEXT ONE IS, UH, FROZEN FOR SENIORS.
THAT TAX RATE IS FROZEN FOR SENIORS.
SO THEY WILL, MY SENIORS, IT WON'T SEE THIS GO UP.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON A FIXED INCOME ARE TYPICALLY NOT GOING TO SEE THIS.
ANY PERSON OVER 65 WILL NOT SEE IT WILL CHANGE IN THEIR TAXES.
AND THE TAX, THE ONES THAT WILL SEE IT WILL BE PERSONS UNDER 65 AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
AND THEN MY LAST ONE IS, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, MR. VAL'S, UH, CAPS.
AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I JUST CAN'T GET BEHIND SOMEBODY CAPING MY SALARY, AND I WOULDN'T DO THAT TO THE PEOPLE IN HERE.
I THINK, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATE, HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE JOB AND, AND, AND PAY THEM, WHATEVER THAT WORD IS, COMMENSURATE, COMMENSURATE WITH THOSE AROUND US AND WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR VALUE IS AS WELL.
UM, BECAUSE IF, LET'S SAY ONE OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AROUND US HAS A REAL CRUDDY, UM, I'M JUST, MS. TURNER, I'M GONNA THROW IT TO YOU.
BIG, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE HEAD DOG AROUND HERE.
UM, IF ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES HAS A CRUDDY CITY MANAGER AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT PAID A LOT, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE COMPARING YOU TO THAT ONE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU, WE SOMETHING MM-HMM
SO THAT'S, I DID COVER THE POLICE THEN FIRE.
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MM-HMMI, I'D LIKE TO ADMIT, I'M SO
I WILL HAVE TO ADD THE PUBLIC WORKS IN THERE BECAUSE ON THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS I HAVE HAD SOME DEALINGS WITH QUITE A FEW, UM, CITIZENS, AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT JUST TO PASS THE WORD ALONG.
AND, UM, SO I HAVE TO ADMIT, MR. LONG HAS A QUESTION, UH, ON, SO YOU, ON THE TIMELINE, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE, YOU SAID YOU GOT THE WORKSHEET THIS AFTERNOON, RIGHT? THE, THE WORKSHEET FROM THE COUNTY.
SO IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET, DOES IT COME OUT TO THE SAME REVENUE FIGURES OR DO YOU THINK NO, IT CAME, IT CAME, COMES OUT REALLY CLOSE.
UM, I GUESS FROM THE COVER PAGE ON THE BUDGET, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR MORE REVENUE.
RIGHT? AND SO SOME OF THAT'S COMING FROM NEW 1.50 CENTS.
SO IT'S ABOUT 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND.
AND ABOUT JUST ROUGH NUMBERS, ABOUT HALF IS COMING FROM NEW PROPERTIES AND HALF IS COMING FROM THE RESIDENCE COME FROM THE PROPERTIES.
SO IT MAY BE 150,000 OR ISH, IF I TAKE THAT COVER PAGE IS COMING FROM NEW REVENUE A ASKING FOR MORE WRITING REVENUE FROM THE TAXPAYERS.
UM, THAT'S THE, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE COMING FROM REVENUE THAT WASN'T FOR STRUCTURES THAT WEREN'T TAXED AT, AT THE PRIOR YEAR.
SO IT'S LIKE HALF AND HALF, LIKE HALF NEW, HALF EXISTING.
I JUST, MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, I'D LIKE TO, TO FIND A WAY TO PAY FOR THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO INCREASE THAT 150 ISH.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS WITH THE VENUE TAX.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS WITH THE FIRETRUCK FUNDING OF DEFERRING THAT A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE DOING A LOAN DOWN THE ROAD.
UH, BUT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, WORKED OUT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY.
I THINK IT'S HARD TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT SPINNING ON THE GOLF COURSE BEFORE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT FIRST.
CAN I ADDRESS THE FIRETRUCK REAL QUICK? SURE.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $1.8 MILLION THAT COVERS ONE OF THE VEHICLES.
IF WE HAVE THE $550,000 IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE'LL BE SHORT APPROXIMATELY $400,000, WHICH AT THAT POINT WE COULD USE FUND BALANCE FOR.
UM, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL IF WE WANTED TO.
UM, IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE A SMALL PORTION OF THE VENUE TAX, YOU COULD, UM, THERE'S THE FIRETRUCK THAT WE COULD REDUCE IT MILE OR SMALL AMOUNT, FOR INSTANCE.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, IF THERE IS THAT SURPLUS, THEN MOVE THAT MONEY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU GET A GRANT, THEN YOU DON'T MOVE THE VENUE TAX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS FOR COUNSEL TO DISCUSS.
I, AND I'M, AS YOU'VE REQUESTED LAST YEAR, I'M MORE INTERESTED IN, AND YOU GUYS MAY BE COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THAT SUGGESTION MM-HMM
BUT THAT'S MY FEEDBACK, IS TO TRY TO FIND THAT 155,000 FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE RATHER THAN THE TAXPAYERS.
FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE $550,000 THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO SET ASIDE FOR THE FIRE TRUCK IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
RIGHT? IT'S THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPENDITURES THAT WE HAVE ON THERE.
AND SO, YES, YOU COULD REDUCE THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE SAVING, AS YOU SAID, KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IT'S GOING TO COME TO A POINT IN 2027 WHEN WE HAVE TWO FIRE TRUCKS ARRIVING AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CASH FOR BOTH OF THEM.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER COME UP WITH THAT MONEY NOW AND SET IT ASIDE, OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH A BIGGER AMOUNT LATER, WHICH YOU CAN DO THROUGH TWO, TWO OPTIONS.
YOU CAN BORROW FROM YOURSELF, WHICH WOULD BE FROM THE, UM, FUND BALANCE, AND THEN PUT THE CASH IN IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO REPLACE THE FUND BALANCE.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR FUND BALANCE POLICY SAYS.
OR YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF GOING OUT AND DOING A CONVENTIONAL LOAN FOR ABOUT NO, WELL, YOU COULD.
SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE THE IDEA.
YOU COULD DO A CONVENTIONAL LOAN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST RATE WOULD BE ON THAT.
AND SO WE, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE YOU'D BE BORROWING BETWEEN 900,000 AND A MILLION, MAYBE MILLION FOUR, SOMETHING LIKE ONE ONE 900,000 TO 1.4.
UM, BUT THEN YOU'RE PAYING INTEREST, WHICH IS STILL, YOU KNOW, A TAX.
IT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE, BUT IT'S STILL, UH, BEING PAID BY THE RESIDENTS.
IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE FIRETRUCK.
I PERSONALLY LIKE THE DEBT BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SMOOTHING IT OUT OVER TIME.
IT'S NOT A ONE TIME HIT AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THOSE TRUCKS OVER THE LIFE OF THE TRUCKS.
SO PERSONALLY, I THINK IT MAKES, IT MAKES SENSE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY FEEDBACK.
SO IT IS UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.
WELL, NO, WE AS A GROUP GIVE THEM DIRECTION
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ON WHAT TO COME BACK WITH, WITH THREE OPTIONS, I'M ASSUMING.BUT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT THE STAFF TO CONCENTRATE ON FOR FINAL PROPOSAL.
I MOVE THAT WE, UH, HAVE THE STAFF SHOOT FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, 20 25, 24, 4 2 0 0 0.880, EXCUSE ME, 0.0 8 8 0 0 0.
THE TOTAL TAX RATE OF 0.5 0, 0, 0, SECOND, 0, 0 0, 0, 0, 0 0.53, 5.5 3, 0, 0, 0 0.
AGAIN, UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.
YOU'RE JUST PROVIDING US A DIRECTION.
REMEMBER, COME AUGUST 19TH, I THINK IS THE DATE.
UH, YOU'LL ACTUALLY HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE'LL DO A RECORD VOTE.
OKAY? AND SO, UH, YOU ARE, I KNOW YOU SAID SECOND.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
WHENEVER, ONLY GIVE PROVIDING GUIDANCE, THERE'S NO VOTE.
I'LL TAKE THIS AS A CONSENSUS.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A CONSENSUS.
UH, THOSE THAT ARE, UH, IN FAVOR OF THAT, UH, CONSENSUS, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
ONE, TWO OPTIONS OR JUST, THERE'S THREE PEOPLE, FOUR PEOPLE RIGHT THERE THAT, UH, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR.
BASICALLY WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ADVERTISE AS OUR RATE? IF COUNSEL DOESN'T LIKE THE 0.5, 3 0, 0, 0, 0 0.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO PUBLISH.
I, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE RIGHT NOW.
I'VE GOT FOUR PEOPLE THIS SET.
THEY AGREE WITH THAT? WHAT'S THAT? IT MIGHT BE EASIER A VOTE.
AND I'M ASSUMING TWO PEOPLE THAT DO NOT.
SO BEAR IF YOU WANT TO BE OFFICIAL ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT IS UNDER AN ACTION ITEM.
UH, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION AND TAKE A VOTE, THAT WAY IT'S VERY CLEAR WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS.
AND THAT'LL PROBABLY PRI PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE DIRECTION, UH, TO MS. GREEN.
YOU DID? WE DID HAVE A SECOND.
SO, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THEN MS. CALL FOR A VOTE? NO DISCUSSION.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO AMEND, UH, THIS DISCUSSION TO INCLUDE A LOWER TAX RATE WITH THE OPTIONS THAT THE STAFF COULD PROVIDE THE SAME TAX RATE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
UH, SO JUST A SECOND OPTION FOR, UH, UH, CONSIDERATION.
OKAY? SO AGAIN, ANY PENNY OVER OR UNDER IS $200,000.
SO I'LL LEAVE THAT TO COUNSEL TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO GO TO 0.52 OR 0.53 OR 0.54.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO COVER THE CURRENT BUDGET.
SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING, WE'RE GIVING YOU GUIDANCE ON WHAT TO AIM AT.
WE STILL HAVE TO, WE STILL HAVE TO, WE STILL HAVE TO DO A FINAL VOTE ON THIS.
SO THERE'S STILL A CHANCE THAT THIS CAN CHANGE.
WE'RE JUST SAYING AT THIS, WHEN MY MOTION, THE PURPOSE OF MY MOTION IS TO SAY, FOR NOW, TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED, AIM AT THAT NUMBER.
AND IF WE GET, IF, IF THE COUNCIL VOTES IN MAJORITY FOR THAT, GREAT.
IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE'LL DO A MOTION FOR ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE.
BUT REGARDLESS, WE'RE GOING TO SET THE RATE DOWN THE ROAD PERMANENTLY.
THERE'S NO SECOND FOR YOUR PROPOSAL.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, CALL FOR THE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PUT AYE MAYOR, MS. PATRICK.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK GOING INTO THAT ONE AND, UH, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, FINISH THAT ONE OFF AND WE'LL GO TO ITEM C.
ORDINANCE 5 2 5 Y 2025 MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE ANNUAL CPI ADJUSTMENT.
AS, UH, I SAID IN THE COVER SHEET, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.
UH, SO THE REASON WE'RE VOTING ON IT IS WE NEED TO GET IT INTO OUR MUNICIPAL CODE SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES AND WE'RE CHARGING THE FEE, IT'S, UH, BEEN DULY AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL.
CALL FOR A MOTION, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
AT WHAT POINT CAN WE BID THIS HOUR WHEN, WHEN WE BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME? 'CAUSE IT IS NEXT SUMMER, RIGHT? YEAH.
I WAS, I'M, I WAS ACTUALLY, UH, GOING TO MENTION THAT AFTER THE VOTE.
SO, UH, THE CONTRACT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT IS UP IN JULY OF 2026.
SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR IN MY HEAD.
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A FIRM, UH, THAT DOES RFPS JUST FOR WASTE SERVICES.AND SO AS THE STAFF WILL START HAVING A, A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO, UH, DETERMINE THEIR PROCESS AND WHEN WE NEED TO ACTUALLY ISSUE THE RFP.
AND IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING TOO, THAT WE CAN NOTIFY WASTE MANAGEMENT AT ANY TIME THAT WE DON'T WANT TO AUTORENEW? IS THAT A, IS THAT SO SOMETHING THAT, SO WE DON'T HAVE AN AUTORENEW CLAUSE IN OUR CONTRACT.
WE HAVE WHERE, UH, COUNSEL CAN AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL YEARS.
UH, I THINK IT'S ONE OR YEAR OR TWO YEAR, BUT IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY RENEW.
IF WE FAIL AND WE'RE GONNA WAKE UP TOMORROW AND BE LIKE, OH CRAP, WE DIDN'T TELL 'EM.
SO WE'RE LOCKED IN FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS.
OH, TRUST ME, THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING OUT FOR AN RFP AND THAT THEIR CONTRACT IS UP, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BID PROCESS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
COUNCIL MEMBER WHAT? AYE, MOTION CARRIED.
DESIGNATION OF REUNION DISTRICT REINVESTMENT.
UH, THANK YOU MARYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND SO IN ORDER TO ENACT IT, THIS IS THE ORDINANCE, UH, THAT WOULD CREATE THAT PARTICULAR, UM, WELL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE NAMING SPECIFIC.
SO IT'D BE THE REUNION DISTRICT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER ONE PER STATE LAW.
AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE TWO READINGS.
ANY DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
MS. HE, MS. MAYOR, I'M SORRY, MR. MAYOR, YOU HAVE TO FAST
UH, IT WOULD BE GOOD, I THINK FOR COUNCIL, PERHAPS IN A SEPARATE SESSION THAT'S SCHEDULED WHATEVER, TO IDENTIFY, UH, UH, THE DEFINITION OF ABATEMENT IN THESE, IN VARIOUS AREAS.
UM, THESE TWO DESIGNATED AREAS, UH, AN ABATEMENT WILL BE A HOT, VERY HOT ISSUE WITH OUR RESIDENTS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD TOGETHER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS, UH, UH, FOR FUTURE COUNCILS.
I, I, I THINK WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL IS SAYING IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT IS THIS ABATEMENT? OH MY GOSH, YOU BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, X, Y, AND Z, UM, AND YOU'RE GONNA LET THEM JUST NEVER PAY TAXES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO NIP BY HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.
RIGHT? UM, SO BY REENACTING THE REINVESTMENT ZONE, YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY SAYING THAT YOU'RE OPEN FOR CONSIDERATION WHAT IT'S GOING TO MEAN AND HOW IT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO OCCUR UNTIL SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SUBMITS AN APPLICATION TO YOU AT THAT TIME.
WHEN YOU GET THE APPLICATION, YOU'LL DECIDE, OH, IT'S THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THIS.
YOU NEGOTIATE IT WITH THEM, AND AT THAT TIME, YOU'LL HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT FUTURE COUNCIL DECISIONS OR FUTURE TAXES IN THE CITY.
SHE, SHE SAID WHAT I WAS GONNA, AND I, I WANNA REMIND YOU OF ONE THING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE REUNION PROJECT.
REMEMBER THAT THEY'RE OPERATING UNDER A PUBLIC A PUD, RIGHT? THEY HAVE A PLAN.
THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT THEY CAN GET IN THERE.
AND SO IF THEY COME AND THEY'RE WANTING TO GET A TAX ABATEMENT FOR A BUSINESS IN THE REINVESTMENT ZONE, THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE PUD, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GIVE 'EM ANYTHING 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONNA ALLOW THAT BUSINESS IN.
UH, SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU GET, I DON'T KNOW, A MICROSOFT OFFICE WITH 300 WORKERS MAYBE FOR THAT.
MAYBE YOU DO IT FOR FIVE YEARS, MAYBE YOU DO IT FOR SEVEN YEARS.
MAYBE THEY WANT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND YOU'RE ONLY WILLING TO DO 50.
THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S NEGOTIATION THAT YOU'LL HAVE WITH EVERY BUSINESS AS THEY COME IN.
UH, WITH SPECIFIC REGARD TO THE REUNION PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GONNA BE GREAT INVESTMENT AS FAR AS FINANCES.
UH, HOWEVER, IT'S, IS IT NOT TRUE THAT AS SOON AS THERE'S AN OFFICIAL SALE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT THE REUNION DEVELOPER THAT CAN THEN ESSENTIALLY SELL, UH, PROPERTIES FOR THE
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REMAINING DEVELOPMENT SO HE LOSES CONTROL.THERE'S NO ONE PERSON THAT MEANS, THAT MEANS THAT BY DEFINITION THEN, IS THAT, THAT THE REUNION PROJECT, THE RE ABATEMENT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE FUZZY? NO, NO.
FOR THE REUNION PARTNERS WHO ARE CREATING THE REUNION DEVELOPMENT TO GET A TAX ABATEMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT IN THEIR OWN APPLICATION.
THAT APPLICATION APPLIES ONLY TO THE LAND THAT THEY OWN.
IF THEY OWN SEVEN PARCELS, AND WE CLOSE ON DECEMBER 20TH, I'LL USE MY BIRTHDAY, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS
THE FIVE THAT THEY ARE SOLD DOES NOT FALL UNDER THEIR ABATEMENT CRITERIA.
IT'S ONLY PROPERTY UNDER THEIR DIRECT OWNERSHIP.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YES.
SO IT MIGHT BE FOR 43 ACRES INITIALLY, BUT IF THEY TURN AROUND AND THEY SELL THAT PROPERTY, IT'S NOT THEIR, THE ABATEMENT GOES AWAY ON THAT PROPERTY.
THE ABATEMENT DOES NOT TRAVEL FROM ONE OWNER TO THE NEXT AND CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ITEM E, ORDINANCE 6 7 1 20 25.
DESIGNATION AVIATION DISTRICT REINVESTMENT ZONE ONE, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
YOU GOTTA BE, I WAS TRYING NOT TO GET LIKE THIS GROUP
ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MR. THIS IS CLEARLY VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.
IT'S NOT A CENTRALLY DEVELOPED, UH, A PLOT, UH, PLOT OR ZONE.
AND, UH, THEREFORE IT'S, IT'S A HARDER CASE FOR AN ABATEMENT FOR THAT ZONE.
HOW SO? BECAUSE THE, IT IS INDIVIDUAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS, I DON'T UN I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE.
I THINK WHAT HE'S SAYING IN THE, IN THE REUNION, LARGER TRACT LANDS, INITIALLY JUST ONE OWNER.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE REUNION.
I DON'T KNOW, MICHAEL, WHAT DO WE HAVE? 73 PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THERE? SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING RIDICULOUS LIKE THAT.
BUT IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND THEY BUY, LET'S SAY SEVEN LOTS IN THERE AND THEY WANT TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, A STRIP MALL OR A SHOPPING CENTER OR SOMETHING IN THERE, UM, THEY MAY WANT TO ASK FOR AN ABATEMENT ON THE TAXES BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING A SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT.
THE COUNCIL STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY YES, NO, OR MAYBE, SO IT'S JUST YOU'RE DEALING WITH MORE PEOPLE.
BUT REMEMBER, YOU'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE RESIDENTIAL END OF IT.
YOU REALLY, MR. RUBAL, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ALLEY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.
IT REALLY HAS MORE APPLICATION TO THAT THAN IT DOES TO THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
BUT YOU DON'T WANNA TAKE OUT THE AVAILABILITY THAT YOUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CAN PUSH OUT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
IF SOMEBODY IS, UM, SAVVY ENOUGH TO GATHER PROPERTIES TO PUT IN A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND I WOULD IMAGINE BECAUSE THE LOTS ARE SMALLER AND THE BUILDINGS ARE SMALLER, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS GOING TO BE LESS, THERE'S LESS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM LESS ABATEMENT THAN YOU WOULD IF IT WAS IN THE REUNION, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE TALKING VERY LARGE, UM, INVESTMENTS.
AND SO THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF ABATEMENT PROGRAM THAN SOMEBODY IN THE AVIATION DISTRICT.
REMEMBER, YOU'RE CRAFTING IT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE BASED ON THEIR APPLICATION AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY SPEND, THE INVESTMENT THEY SPEND, AND THE EMPLOYMENT THAT THEY HAVE, AND THE YEARS THAT YOU GIVE THE ABATEMENT AND THE AMOUNT IT CAN VARY.
SO I'M GONNA AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID.
IT'S NOT THAT THE PROCESS IS MORE DIFFICULT, IT'S JUST THAT BECAUSE I'LL HAVE 74 POSSIBLE PROCESSES, THAT'S MORE DIFFICULT.
THAT'S JUST THE TIME, THE TIME SPENT ON IT.
BUT, SO MY QUESTION IS, IS CAN THEY DOUBLE DIP? CAN THEY GO TO EDC
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AND COME FOR TAX ABATEMENT? WELL THAT, MR. RUBAL AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION THE OTHER DAY.UM, IT IS IN COUNCIL'S WHEREWITHAL TO KNOW IF THEY'VE OBVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE EDC AND THE EDC FOR A TAX ABATEMENT, LET'S SAY IN THE AVIATION DISTRICT.
SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEIR INVESTMENT IS $300,000 AND THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TAX, WELL, WE KNOW WHAT THE TAXES ARE.
CHRISTINE TOLD US JUST, YOU KNOW, A FEW MINUTES AGO.
SO, UM, WHAT YOU COULD DO IS YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, REALLY THIS IS NOT, UH, WORTH ABATING TAXES FOR, AND THEN DIRECT THEM TO THE EDC FOR SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE OR INCENTIVE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BUILD THEIR BUILDING.
SO YOU COULD BOUNCE 'EM FROM THE ABATEMENT BACK TO THE EDC.
I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, 'CAUSE THERE'S A PROPERTY ACROSS FROM WALMART THAT REALLY MIGHT WANNA TALK ABOUT
YOU HAVE TO BE BORN ON DECEMBER 20TH TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THANK, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. BUT WE WOULD HIGHLY DISCOURAGE DOUBLE DIPPING UNLESS IT WAS FOR SOME TYPE OF TARGETED INDUSTRY OR PRODUCT OR SERVICE THAT WE WERE REALLY LOOKING FOR IN UNIVERSAL CITY.
I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SUPER UNIQUE TO DO A DOUBLE DIP.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
UH, ESSENTIALLY I FIND MYSELF AGREEING AGAIN WITH MR. GOLDSBY AND, UH, UH, IN, IN THAT, UM, UH, BASICALLY IT, IT DOES APPLY TO BUSINESS.
YOU DOES APPLY A LOT TO BUSINESSES.
UM, BUT THERE'S CONSIDERATION OF HOW MUCH E-D-E-G-C IS SPENDING IN THE AVIATION DISTRICT, UH, AT THE, AT THE PRESENT TIME FOR THE PRODUCT THAT'S GOING TO BE DELIVERED EVENTUALLY.
I KNOW IT GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY, BUT WHAT IT DOES DO FROM THE DATE THE AGREEMENT IS SIGNED IS ESSENTIALLY IT REDUCES THAT 1 CENT TAX FOR REVENUE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER CHRISTINE WILL PROVIDE FOR US THAT WILL ULTIMATELY EQUAL THE $200,000 OR MORE THAT THE TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO KEEP PAYING.
WELL, THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS IN, IN THE CASE OF THE, OUR, UH, REUNION PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, I UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF A BIND THAT HAPPENED THERE, NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF THEIR FAULT.
AND, UM, UH, UH, SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT I THINK TO UNDERSTAND THAT ABATEMENTS MEAN THAT, THAT THE TAX PAPER DURING THAT ABATEMENT PERIOD, UH, IS STILL PAYING THE HIGHER TAX RATE AT $200,000 PER 1 CENT OF AT ALOR TAX.
SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A HARD SELL FOR THE TAXPAYERS, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING AN ABATEMENT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
YOU CAN LOWER IT SO THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE OVERALL TAX.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD BE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN SOMEBODY SUBMITS AN APPLICATION.
OR YOU MIGHT SAY, YEAH, WE'LL GIVE YOU A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE FIRST YEAR, BUT THEN AFTER THAT IT'S 50% FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN YOU'RE DONE.
AND AGAIN, I, I AGREE ABATEMENTS CAN BE AN EXTREMELY USEFUL TOOL.
AND PARTICULARLY IF YOU KNOW THE FOOTPRINT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT IT IS OF GOOGLE OR WHATEVER TYPE THING, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF JOBS THAT, THAT, THAT INDUSTRY IS BRINGING IN, THAT'S A GOOD DEAL.
BUT GENERAL DEVELOPMENT BECOMES A LITTLE EASIER.
AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT COUNCILS WILL BE GIVEN FLEXIBILITY, WHATEVER THE VOTE ON THIS IS.
YOU HAVE, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I FELT LIKE THIS CONVERSATION WAS TALKING ABOUT APPLES WHEN WE'RE VOTING ON ORANGES.
MS. GO ITEM F, ORDINANCE 3 0 8 D 2025 AMENDING CHA, UH, CHAPTER THREE DASH FOUR.
OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE UPDATING STOP INTERSECTIONS.
UH, SO WE HAVE NEW STREETS IN THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW SUBDIVISION.
SO TO GET THE APPROPRIATE, UH, WORK FOR THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WE NEED TO APPROVE
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THE STOP SIGNS.OH, WHAT SECOND? YOU SAID MOTION TO APPROVE? YEAH, BUT YOU GOT THIS LIKE YOU WANT.
I DON'T WANT THREE MORE STOP SIGNS, BUT NO, GO AHEAD.
SECOND ONE OF THESE IS NOT GOING IN FRONT AARON'S HOUSE.
IS IT?
I FIND THOSE SIGNS ARE ALREADY INSTALLED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS BOOK IS ABOUT.
IT MAKES THEM, MAKES THEM, THEY'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY CAN'T LEGAL.
SO, SO IF YOU'VE GOT FIVE MINUTES, YOU CAN GO BLOW ALL THOSE STOP SIGNS AND NOT GET A TICKET.
GOD FOR THE A CALL FOR THE VOTE.
CARRIE APPROVED BID ACCEPTANCE FOR CDBG FLINTSTONE DRIVE STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
ALRIGHT, RANDY, LONG TIME? YES, MAYOR.
UH, WHAT WE, UH, HAVE BEFORE YOU IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE LOAD BASED BID IN THE AMOUNT OF $786,209 AND 62 CENTS FOR TO D AND D CONTRACTORS FOR THE FLINTSTONE STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT WILL INCLUDE A, A GRANT GRANT AWARD OF 406,000.
WELL DONE ON THE VERY TIGHT BIDS FOR THE MOST PART.
UM, AND THEN THAT DIFFERENT, I MEAN THAT, THOSE, THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
AND IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, THAT'S JUST IMPRESSIVE.
SO WELL DONE ALL THE WAY AROUND.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR THE ASSISTANCE IN GETTING THAT TOO, ISN'T IT? YES.
MAYOR REPRESENTATIVE PATRICK AYE.
APPROVED BID ACCEPTANCE FOR THE FLINTSTONE WATERLINE PROJECT.
WE'RE ASKING, UH, FOR APPROVAL, UH, UH, THE WATERLINE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE VERY SAME STREET OF FLINTSTONE.
UH, THE LOW BID CAME IN AT $281,650 TO SOAR VEX UH, SOREX, LLC, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF 281,650.
UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
DID YOU SAY SECOND? HE WAS A MALE? NO, NO, I SAID ASKED SECOND.
MAY I APPROACH YOU ON A SECOND? SECOND.
UM, SO DO YOU SEE ANY, UM, FRUSTRATION ON YOUR PART BETWEEN HAVING TWO DIFFERENT, UH, CONTRACTORS? ONE DOING THE, WORKING IN THE SAME SPOT, TRYING TO OVERLAY THIS? SO HE SAID, HE SAID, HE SAID TOUCH SUCH YEAH.
ONE CONTRACTOR WILL BE MOBILIZED FIRST BEFORE THE OTHER ONE MOBILIZES.
SO, SO THEY WON'T BE OVER EACH OTHER'S? CORRECT.
AND BECAUSE THEY'RE ONE AFTER ANOTHER, DO YOU WORRY ABOUT ANY CROSS CONTAMINATION IS WHERE I'M LIKE ONE DOING DAMAGE TO SOME OF THE OTHER'S WORK? NO, THE WATER LINE, THE WAY WE HAVE IT DESIGNED, THEY'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT WE, SOME OF THE AREAS WE WON'T DO FOLDABLE FIELD.
NORMALLY WE DO FLOWABLE FILL BECAUSE WE GOT THE STREET BEING TORN UP.
SO IF WE WEREN'T TEARING IT UP, WE'D HAVE FLOWABLE FILL.
BUT NO, THE WAY WE GOT IT DESIGNED, IT'S GONNA FOLLOW SUIT JUST FINE.
UH, AND THAT IS, ARE THESE LINES IN, THEY'RE IN THE CENTER OF THE STREET.
WE'RE DOING WATER, WATER LINES.
MR. CALL FOR THE VOTE WHATSOEVER.
WHEN SUBDIVISIONS ARE BUILT, THE DEVELOPER, UH, SUBMITS PLANS, THE CITY APPROVES THEM.
DEVELOPER PUTS IN THE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE GIVE THEM A PRELIMINARY ACCEPTANCE.
UH, THEN FOR ONE YEAR IT SITS THERE, WE GO BACK, WE DO A FINAL INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS WORKING THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
AND SO THIS IS THE, UH, FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR CIVIL CROSSING UNIT
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TWO.AND THOSE WOULD BE, UH, WATER, SEWER STREETS, FIRE HYDRANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S EVERYTHING EXCEPT SIDEWALKS MOVE TO APPROVE.
IS THERE SECOND DISCUSSION MR. BURN? DOES, DOES THAT INCLUDE DRAINAGE IN THOSE PROPERTIES? YES SIR.
UH, THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, HAS THAT 24 RETAINING WALL IN THE NEWER SECTION JUST BELOW WHERE THE NEW STOP SIGNS ARE, UH, TYPE THING, UH, BIN FIXED.
THE BASE WAS TOTALLY ERODED IN THE HEAVY RAIN.
AND ALSO, UM, UH, ESSENTIALLY IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS A FILL IN OF THE NATURAL DRAINAGE COURSE ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO, SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WRONG UNIT.
UH, THE UNIT TWO YOU'RE APPROVING TONIGHT THAT PROJECT'S NOT IN THE UNIT.
I I I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF UNIT TWO AS THAT'S IN UNIT.
WE'VE RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS FROM THE RESIDENCE ABOUT TRASH.
IS THERE, WAS THERE ANY REVIEW TO SEE IF THEY'VE CLEANED UP TRASHES IN THESE AREAS BEFORE FINAL ACCEPTANCE OR SO? WE, WELL, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SAY THE TRASH IS IN UNIT TWO BECAUSE IT COULD BE THE TRASH THAT'S FLOWING FROM UNIT THREE, WHICH IS ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
BUT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT SPEAKS WITH THEM QUITE OFTEN ABOUT TRASH.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HILLY AND THE WIND BLOWS AND SO THEY ALL HAVE CONTAINERS AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE HIGH WINDS, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD WHEN WE TELL THEM TO GO PICK UP THE TRASH THAT THEY CIRCLE THROUGH AND PICK UP TRASH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
[10. EXECUTIVE SESSIONS ]
NINE 12.AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 2 REGARDING PURCHASE OF EXCHANGE AND VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.
THIS CONCERNS RESOLUTION 9 8 0 B 2025.
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY AUTHORIZED PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 4 EAST LINDBERGH UNIVERSAL CITY BY THE UNIVERSAL CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR A PROJECTS TO PROMOTE NEW AND EXPANDED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOW CLOSED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE WILL BE BACK SHORTLY OR LONG.
WE ARE RECONVENING BACK TO THE REGULAR MEETING.
AND YOU ASKED HER EXECUTIVE SESSION HAS ENDED.
OH, WHERE'S THE WE NEED, UH, IS THERE A THE ACTION BEING TAKEN WOULD BE A RESOLUTION FOR THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 4 EAST LINDBERGH UNIVERSAL CITY, TEXAS, BY THE UNIVERSAL CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS FOR PROJECTS TO PROMOTE NEW AND EXPANDED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
CALL FOR A MOTION, MOVE TO APPROVAL.
ANY DISCUSSION? CALL OF THE VOTE.