* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:09] GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IT'S, UH, 6:30 PM I CALLED THE MEETING TO UNIVERSAL CITY, CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY TO, TO GET TO ORDER. IT IS, UH, TUESDAY, MARCH 17TH. CALL FOR A QUORUM CHECK. MAYOR PROAM FITZPATRICK. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOLDSBY. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN. HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM SUPER CITIZEN, UH, EXCUSE ME. UH, INVOCATION TONIGHT IS GONNA BE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, SHELBY. AND THEN I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, IF YOU'D STAND, PLEASE. LORD, WE GATHER TODAY WITH GRATITUDE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. MAY OUR CONVERSATIONS BE GUIDED BY RESPECT, OUR DECISIONS, BY FAIRNESS, AND OUR ACTIONS, BY COMMITMENT TO THE COMMON GOOD. LET US LISTEN WITH OPEN MINDS, SPEAK WITH INTEGRITY, AND WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS SOLUTIONS THAT STRENGTHEN THE WELLBEING OF ALL RESIDENTS. MAY OUR EFFORTS REFLECT WISDOM, COMPASSION, AND A SHARED DEDICATION TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE AN INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU. BE SEATED. FIRST [4. CITIZENS TO BE HEARD] ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, CITIZENS TO BE HEARD. UH, AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS THE PRESIDING OFFICIALS AND SPEAK ON THE, ANY MATTER DID NOT SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ELSEWHERE OR IN THIS AGENDA, PLEASE, WE'LL NOT NOTE THAT. WE WILL NOT ENGAGE IN ANY INTERACTION WITH THE SPEAKER. AND PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. I HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP TONIGHT TO BE SPEAK. UH, FIRST IS, UH, MR. MARK DUNLAP. EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT LIVING IN UNIVERSAL CITY, ASIDE FROM ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE DO IN THE CITY, IS BEING PART OF THE SIXTH LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME WITH THAT. ONE OF THEM IS ONE OF AN, I THINK AN UNSUNG AREA OF THE CITY, AND THAT'S OUR LOCAL UNIVERSITY, UTSA. AND I'M, UM, TONIGHT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HEARD THIS, BUT UTSA WOMEN'S BASKETBALL CAME IN AS A MID SEED AND WON THE CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT AND ARE GOING TO THE NCAA TOURNAMENT THIS WEEKEND. NOW THEY'RE GONNA PLAY YUKON. AND I WON'T TALK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THAT. THERE'S GONNA BE ENOUGH TRASH TALK IN THE MEETING THIS EVENING ANYWAY, SO WE'LL SKIP THAT. BUT THE GAME IS ON A B, C AT TWO O'CLOCK ON SATURDAY. THAT SHOULD BE A FUN GAME, AND IT'S A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, FOR THE ATHLETES. ALONG WITH THAT, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE, WOMEN'S SOCCER WENT TO THE CONFERENCE OR WENT TO THE US NCAA TOURNAMENT THIS YEAR. MEN'S BASEBALL LAST YEAR WERE JUST A, A PITCH AWAY FROM GETTING INTO THE FINALS OF THE COLLEGE WORLD SERIES. THE FINAL FOUR THERE. ATHLETICS AT THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL, BUT EVEN BIGGER THAN THAT, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IN SEPTEMBER, THE UNIVERSITY MERGED WITH UT HEALTH SAN ANTONIO. SO THE MEDICAL SCHOOL, THE NURSING SCHOOL, THE DENTAL SCHOOL, ALL OF THE CLINICS ARE NOW PART OF UTSA. IT MAKES UTSA THE THIRD LARGEST RESEARCH INSTITUTION IN THE STATE. IT'S A MAJOR, MAJOR UNIVERSITY AND ONE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, WE NEED TO SUPPORT IT, WHETHER IT'S ACADEMICS, THEIR ARTS PROGRAMS, ATHLETICS, WHAT HAVE YOU. UM, GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY. THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH GOING ON WITH THE UNIVERSITY THAT I WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND THAT MS. WILLIAMS CONSIDER DOING AN EPISODE OF UCTV WITH ONE OF THE LEADERS OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY TO GIVE PEOPLE AN, AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE'VE GOT FAMILIES HERE AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO COLLEGE WITHOUT NECESSARILY GOING AWAY TO COLLEGE. RIGHT. SO A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE. SO THAT WAS ALL I REALLY WANTED TO SAY. THERE'S A LOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT IF IT WORKS OUT SATURDAY, HAVE A LOOK AT THE GAME, PAY ATTENTION TO IT ON RADIO, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY, FOR THE SCHOOL, AND FOR OUR ATHLETES. THANKS. THANK YOU, SIR. I'M GONNA GET YOU IN YOUR [00:05:03] NEXT UP IS, UH, MR. MOSS ERIC MOSS. GOOD EVENING. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, RESIDENCE? I'M NOT A GOOD SPEAKER, SO JUST BEAR WITH ME HERE. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? YEAH. ERIC MOSS, ONE 10 ROSEWOOD DRIVE. THANK YOU. IN RUSSELL CITY, UH, BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR 60 YEARS, GREW UP HERE, LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE. UM, I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO REDUCE RESIDENTIAL TRASH PICKUP. UM, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR US ALREADY WITH JUST THE ONE CAN. UM, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CITY MAY BE TRYING TO CUT COSTS AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCY, THIS CHANGE SHIFTS BURDEN DIRECTLY ON THE RESIDENTS. UH, FOR MANY HOUSEHOLDS, A SINGLE, SINGLE PICKUP WEEKLY ISN'T ENOUGH. FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, LARGER HOUSEHOLDS, UH, BEYOND THE INCONVENIENCE, THIS CHANGE REPRESENTS A REDUCTION IN BASIC SERVICE RESIDENTS RELY ON TO MAINTAIN CLEAN AND HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. MANY RESIDENTS MOVED HERE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TWICE WEEKLY PICKUP. UM, RESIDENTS HAVE MORE TRASH. IT FITS IF, IF YOU CAN'T FIT THE TRASH THAT YOU COME ONCE A WEEK. WE GOTTA PAY $3 BASICALLY TO GET A PINK TAG FOR EVERY BAG THAT SITS OUTSIDE THE CAN AND, UH, WAIT FOR THEM TO PICK THAT UP. UM, COUPLE FACTS HERE. UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING AROUND $21, UH, PER MONTH FOR TRASH SERVICE. IF PICKUP IS REDUCED ONCE A WEEK, RESIDENTS ARE STILL GONNA BE PAYING THE SAME COST. UH, EVEN IF THEY HAVE TO PICK UP, IF IT GOES INTO A BULK SCENARIO, YOU'RE STILL WAITING A WEEK WITH THE TRASH THAT ACCUMULATES AFTER THE PICKUP. AND IT'S BEEN A, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER RESIDENT, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. SO, AND THEN I HAVE TO TALK TO THE, UH, TRASH MAN TO TRY AND GET THE EXTRA PICKED UP OR IT JUST CONTINUES TO PICK UP. AND THEN WE'VE GOT RODENTS WHERE I LIVE, WE HAVE RACCOONS AND POSSUMS THAT GET INTO THE TRASH, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO IT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM IF WE GO TO ONCE A WEEK. UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS. HA, HAS THE CITY STUDIED HOW THE CHANGE COULD AFFECT THESE PEST PROBLEMS OR, OR ODORS AND ILLEGAL DUMPING? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET IT PICKED UP, UM, THIS CHANGE CAUSES PROBLEMS FOR RESIDENTS AND THE CITY PREPARED TO REVERSE THIS DECISION. IF Y'ALL PASS THIS AND IT'S NOT WORKING OUT FOR RESIDENTS, ARE YOU WILLING TO GO BACK AND SAY, OKAY, TWICE A WEEK? AND, UM, I, I'M NOT FOR IT. I, I, I WANT TO TWICE A WEEK. UM, AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BOSS. NEXT UP IS, UH, MR. BILLY HILL. HELLO GROUP. DON'T GET NERVOUS, BERNIE. I'M, I'M, I'LL BE OKAY. UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR MONTHLY BILL THAT I PAY FOR THAT CONCLUDE THE WATER AND THE SEWAGE AND THE GARBAGE. AND IT AVERAGES ABOUT A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH. AND, AND, UH, OUT OF THAT IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS WORTH OF WATER AND ONLY $30 FOR THE GARBAGE CAN AND A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT. SO I'M JUST A SINGLE MALE, ME AND MY TWO DOGS. SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST GO OUTSIDE AND PEE AND SAVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH ON SEWAGE . BUT ON ANOTHER NOTE, AS WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE A COUPLE OF DOLLARS HERE AND THERE, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS, BUT, UH, BEING SINGLE, MY TWO DOGS, THE TRASH THAT WE DO CREATE, WHAT YOU CALL A SOLID WASTE THAT WE'RE WANTING TO SIGN UP AGAIN FOR, I MAY NOT FILL UP ONE CAN AT A TIME, BUT I APPRECIATE THE TWO WEEK PICKUP. IF FOR ANY REASON, AND I'VE CHECKED WITH MY NEIGHBORS, THEY TOO, MAN. I'M 77 AND I FORGET ABOUT THE DAMN PICKUP. SO IF YOU, IF YOU DO IT ONCE A WEEK AND I FORGET, WELL THEN THAT'S A TWO WEEK PICKUP. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET BACK TO ENSURE THAT WE GOT, UH, A CAN, ONE CAN, THAT WE CAN GET PICKED UP TWO WEEKS SO I CAN SATISFY ALL THE ANIMALS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS, UH, MICHAEL SIGNS. MICHAEL SIGNS THIRD, UH, 1 3 6 0 7. OAK MEADOWS. LIVED HERE ABOUT 25 YEARS, I THINK. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SAYING HELLO TO EVERYONE. I ALWAYS DO. I GOT HERE A LITTLE LATE TODAY, SO MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES. UM, LAST TIME WE HAD A MEETING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE STATE AUDITOR WAS HERE AND GAVE US A GOLD. GOOD JOB, UH, FOUND NO ERRORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T THINK WE SPEND ENOUGH TIME SAYING THANK YOU. YOU LOOK AROUND THIS COUNTRY AND THERE'S SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH SO MANY CITIES, AND I THINK WE NEED TO CELEBRATE OR WHEN WE DO [00:10:01] HAVE WINS. AND THAT WAS A HUGE WIN. AND CONGRATULATIONS. THE CITY APPRECIATES IT. WE REALLY DO. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, WE HAD THE POLICEMEN HERE. WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION GOING AROUND ALL OVER THE CITY. NEW PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY. AND OUR, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGY WE'VE GIVEN 'EM AND STUFF. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE DOING A BETTER JOB, EVEN WITH ALL THE NEW PEOPLE RACING THROUGH UNIVERSAL CITY. WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT WAS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. BEAUTIFUL JOB. WELL DONE. I HAD TO COVER THOSE TWO THINGS. AND THEN MY LAST THING IS THE GARBAGE. FOR GOODNESS SAKES, I PULLED IT UP ON YOUTUBE JUST TO LOOK FOR IT. TAMPA, FLORIDA, TEARING THEIR HAIR OUT 'CAUSE THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO TWO. UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE LITTLE THINGS THAT END UP IN THE BOTTOM GARBAGE CAN WHEN IT'S SIT OUT THERE IN THE HEAT, THEY'RE WHITE, THEY'RE UGLY. THEY KIND OF SQUIRM AROUND IT. MAGS, MAGGOTS, I WANTED Y'ALL TO SAY IT. THEY'RE MAGGOTS AND MAGGOTS. AFTER THREE DAYS FROM EIGHT TO 24 HOURS, THOSE THINGS START HATCHING AND START TURNING INTO FLIES. BUT THE MAGGOTS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THIS HEAT A HUNDRED DEGREES PLUS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SITUATIONS OUT THERE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE DOGS, RACCOONS, EVERYTHING PULLING OVER TRASH MAKES NO SENSE. THE DISEASES ALONE, OUR COMMUNITY, YOU GUYS NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. ALL YOU GOTTA DO, GO ON YOUTUBE, LOOK IT UP. EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO TWO AND WHEN THEY'RE DOING IT ONE TIME, THEY HAVE ISSUES. YOU GUYS ARE SMARTER THAN THAT. GO LOOK IT UP. TALK TO PEOPLE FROM SHIRTS FOR GOODNESS SAKES. SO WITH THAT, I'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE, BUT THANK YOU. AND I, I LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS DO. I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC. I LOVE WHAT THE CITY DOES. YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. JAMES. THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, AND WE'LL CLOSE THAT OUT. WE HAVE, UH, STAFF REPORTS NEXT, UH, NO STAFF REPORTS THIS EVENING, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THEN WE NEED NEXT [6. PUBLIC HEARINGS] SEGUE RIGHT INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS GOING TO BE LATER ON. WE WILL BE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AT MAY. UH, THIS WILL BE, UM, UH, PLANNING CASE 6 33, 6 34 35 AND 36. AND ZONING CASE 2 68, 2 69, 2 72 71, REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION, UH, AND AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, ZONE CHANGE AND APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND PUT PRELIMINARY TO FINAL PLANS NORTHEAST CORNER OF FM 1518 NORTH IN MASQUE ROAD TO ALLOW A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND RELATED AMENITIES PER ZONING. ORDINANCE 5 81. OVER TO YOU, MICHAEL. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND SO WE'RE GONNA PULL UP A PRESENTATION WE'VE PREPARED FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY, THANK YOU, MARIBEL. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHISPERING CREEK PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY'S ETJ BY MERITAGE HOMES OF TEXAS, WHICH MAY RING A BELL BECAUSE THEY ARE THE DEVELOPER OF THE ORCHARD PARK SUBDIVISION JUST TO THE NORTH. THAT WAS COMPLETED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL ON A 73 OR APPROXIMATELY 74 ACRE TRACT, UM, A VACANT LAND UNSU SUBDIVIDED. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT A PORTION OF THAT IS IN THE, UH, ACOS A PZ TWO. UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL IDENTIFY THAT PORTION IN JUST A BIT. SO IN ORDER FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SEVERAL THINGS. ONE, I MENTIONED THAT THIS IS IN THE ETJ. SO AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, UH, THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY. ALONG WITH THAT, UH, ANNEXATION, IF IT DOES OCCUR, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY ZONED TO R ONE. UM, THE RES, THE LOWEST DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ESTABLISHED ABOUT FOUR TO FOUR AND A HALF ACRES OF THIS TRACT OF LAND, UM, DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL. SO THAT'LL HAVE TO BE AMENDED, UH, TO RESIDENTIAL. UM, I DID MENTION THAT IT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY ZONED R ONE, BUT AS WE MENTIONED, THIS IS A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. AND AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, UH, THIS WOULD BE A PUD DISTRICT ON ITS OWN. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REZONED FROM R ONE TO, UH, THE PUD DISTRICT ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND AS AN EXHIBIT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE ALL THE CRITERIA FOR DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY, SPECIFICALLY ZONING, UH, THE BULK REQUIREMENTS AND THAT ARE, THAT IS WHERE THE PUD PLANS, UM, COME INTO PLAY. SO AGAIN, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 74 ACRES. AND I WILL STOP RIGHT HERE AND JUST MENTION THAT THERE ARE FOUR DIFFERENT VERSIONS [00:15:01] OF THE SITE PLAN, AND I'LL GET INTO THE REASONS WHY THERE ARE FOUR, UH, IN JUST A BIT. UM, THE PROPOSALS DUE RANGE FROM 276 TO 285 HOMES, APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. UH, THE DENSITY FOR THE LOWEST OF 276 HOMES COMES TO 3.75 UNITS PER ACRE. 285 HOMES COMES TO 3.86 UNITS PER ACRE. AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE R TWO AND R THREE DISTRICTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN TOWN. AGAIN, THIS IS VERY COMPARABLE TO THE EXISTING ORCHARD PARK SUBDIVISION JUST TO THE NORTH. AND SO I'LL POINT OUT THAT, UM, THE DIFFERENT SITE PLANS, UM, LEMME JUST BACK UP JUST A BIT. OKAY. SO, UM, THERE ARE FORESIGHT PLANS. UM, THEY'RE BASED ON TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE ACCESS LOCATIONS, AND THEN ALSO THE LOCATION OF THE AMENITY CENTERS. AND WE'LL DESCRIBE THAT IN DETAIL IN JUST A FEW SLIDES. BUT FIRST, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED. ABOUT 60% OF THE HOMES WILL LIKELY BE, UM, ONE STORY, AND THEN 40% TWO STORY. AND SO ONE OF THE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT, UH, THIS SUBDIVISION, UH, BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE OF THE PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS AN EXHIBIT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IS THAT MERITAGE HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE STONE, BRICK OR STUCCO OR A COMBINATION OF THOSE MATERIALS ON THREE SIDES OF THE, UM, THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOME. SO THE FRONT AND TWO SIDES, IT'S THE SAME AS WE HAVE IN ORCHARD PARK. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORCHARD PARK SUBDIVISION COMPARED TO THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION JUST NEXT TO IT, UH, TO THE NORTH IN, I BELIEVE THAT'S, UH, SHIRTS, UH, IT'S SELMA. THANK YOU, KIM. UM, THERE IS A, IT'S A REMARKABLE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU HAVE THREE SIDES THAT ARE STONE, BRICK OR SOME SORT OF MASONRY AS OPPOSED TO SIDING. HERE'S A LOOK AT, UH, THE RENDERINGS FOR TWO STORY VERSIONS. OKAY, SO I MENTIONED THE ACCESS POINTS. SO THE MAIN ACCESS POINT IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBDIVISION ON 1518, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO POTENTIAL ACCESS POINTS, THE SECONDARY ACCESS POINTS, THE PREFERRED ONE IS, THERE WE GO. IT IS ALSO ON, UM, FM 1518. AND THEN BASED ON THEIR CONVERSATIONS WITH TXDOT, UH, IF THE 1518 SECONDARY ACCESS POINT IS NOT VIABLE, THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT OFF OF MASKY ROAD, AND THAT'LL, UH, TAKE COORDINATION WITH SHIRTS. AND THEN I DID MENTION, UH, THE SITE PLAN. SO IN THIS VERSION THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN NOW, THIS WAS THE, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL PLANS, AND IT DID HAVE THE AMENITY CENTER IN THE PURPLE, UH, TO THE NORTH OR TOP OF THE SCREEN. HOWEVER, THAT DOES FALL WITHIN THE A PZ TWO, UH, ZONE. AND SO THE A PT OR A PZ TWO ZONE IS IDENTIFIED, UH, WITHIN THOSE TWO, UM, YELLOW, UH, JAGGED LINES. AND SO YOU CAN SEE ABOUT TWO THIRDS, JUST A LITTLE OVER TWO THIRDS OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT ZONE. AND BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, JBSA, UH, THEY DID REQUEST THAT THE AMENITY CENTER BE RELOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE A PZ TWO. UH, WE SPOKE WITH MERITAGE AND THEY DID ACCOMMODATE THAT REQUEST. THE VERSION YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN NOW, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE AMENITY CENTER IS LOCATED OUTSIDE THE A-P-T-A-P-Z TWO ZONE. UH, SOME OF THE AMENITIES INCLUDED WITH THIS SUBDIVISION, OBVIOUSLY A MONUMENT SIGN, AND THAT'LL BE LOCATED AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE NORTH SIDE OF 1518. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'RE PROPOSING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE CREEK WALL ON THREE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE, YOU SEE THESE FENCE CRE WALLS, UH, FROM A DISTANCE THEY LOOK LIKE, LIKE BRICK OR STONE. UM, BUT THEY'RE REALLY A, A COMPOSITE MATERIAL. UH, SO THIS IS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE CRETE WALL. YOU SEE THESE A LOT, UH, AT APARTMENT COMPLEXES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, A FOUR FOOT WALKING TRAIL OR PEDESTRIAN PATH IS BEING PROPOSED. THERE WE GO. AND SO THIS IS FOR INTERNAL, UH, CIRCULATION AS, AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK THAT IS GONNA BE INSTALLED BY TECH SIDE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. ON 1518, WE MENTIONED THE AMENITY CENTER. THIS IS THE SECOND LOCATION OF THE AMENITY CENTER. AND SO THAT INCLUDES A POOL, UH, A PLAYGROUND, UH, PARKING AREA AS WELL, [00:20:02] AND THEN A MAILBOX CENTER. AND SO ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THIS MAILBOX CENTER IS THAT, UH, THERE IS A, A DRIVE AISLE, UH, OFF, OFF THE MAIN ROAD. SO PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA PARK ON THE MAIN STREET, OR AT LEAST THEORETICALLY THEY'RE NOT GONNA PARK ON THE MAIN STREET. UH, THEY'LL HAVE A TURN OFF IN ORDER TO GET OUTTA THEIR, UH, CAR AND ACCESS THEIR MAIL. AND THEN THAT NORTH PORTION WHERE THE AMENITY CENTER, UH, WAS, UM, NOW IS IDENTIFIED AS EITHER OPEN SPACE OR A DOG PARK. SOME ADDITIONAL POINTS, UH, NONE OF THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN. EVERYTHING YOU SEE TO THE, THE WEST OR TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN IN THE BLUE OR DARK BLUE, THAT IS ALL THE, UH, FLOOD. SO THIS PROPERTY IS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD FLOODPLAIN. UH, THEY ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A DETENTION CENTER IS GONNA BE REQUIRED, A DETENTION POND. UM, SO IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY DO NOT NEED TO INSTALL A DETENTION POND, UH, BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS, THEN UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT ALLOWS FOR THE AMENITY CENTER TO BE RELOCATED IN THAT AREA. WATER, UH, WILL BE LOOPED IN FROM THE EXISTING ORCHARD PARK. AND THERE'S ALSO A MAIN THAT STRETCHES DOWN TO THAT MAIN ENTRANCE ON 1518. AND THEN SEWER WILL CONNECT TO THE EXISTING, UH, SYSTEM AND THEN OUTFALL TO THE CCMA SYSTEM AND MOVE, UH, EASTBOUND, UH, TOWARDS SHIRTS. UH, BEFORE I GET INTO THIS SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL THINGS WITH REGARD, UH, TO THE SUBDIVISION. IT'LL HAVE A 60% MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, FOR THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION. UM, EACH HOME WILL HAVE A TRASH, UH, CAN WING WALL, UH, WHICH IS A, A GOOD AMENITY. UH, SO DIS GUYS ARE HIDE IT FROM THE STREET, FROM THE, THE CURB VIEW. UH, 85% OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY AREAS WILL BE ZERO ESCAPED, AND AT LEAST, UM, THERE'LL BE AT LEAST TWO THREE INCH CALIPER TREES AND A MAXIMUM OF 15% LANDSCAPE COVER IN THE FRONT YARDS OF EACH HOME. AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY AREAS, UH, SHIELDED OR DOWNWARD FACED LIGHTING. SO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THIS PROJECT. AND SO WHAT WE HAD ASKED THEM TO DO, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ENTITLEMENT, UH, STAGE OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS, IS TO PROVIDE US WITH A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WORKSHEET. SO IT'S NOT A FULL TIA, UH, THE FULL TIA WILL COME IF THEY ARE APPROVED TONIGHT, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK OUT, UH, WITH TXDOT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT ENTRANCE, UH, IS VIABLE, THE SECONDARY ENTRANCE. UH, AND THAT'LL DETERMINE, UM, ONE WHERE THE SECONDARY ACCESS CAN BE LOCATED. AND THEN WHETHER ANY OTHER WARRANT STUDIES OR ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ON 1518 ARE REQUIRED. SO WE WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT BASED ON THE WORKSHEET, UH, THAT THEIR ENGINEER PROVIDED TO US, UH, THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT EXPECTED, UH, DURING THE PEAK HOURS. SO, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UH, 8,000 TRIPS PER DAY OCCUR IN THAT STRETCH, UH, 1518. THIS, UH, SUBDIVISION AT FULL BUILD OUT WILL ADD ABOUT 2,600 TRIPS, BUT THAT'S OVER A 24 HOUR PERIOD, MORE IMPORTANTLY, DURING THE PEAK HOURS AM 199 ADDITIONAL TRIPS AND 264 IN THE PM PEAK HOURS. UM, I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT DURING THE ORCHARD PARK SUBDIVISION ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A TIA DONE PRIOR TO THAT BEING APPROVED AND DEVELOPED, AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS A KEY INDICATOR AS TO WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, OR WHAT LEVEL OF IMPACT YOU'LL HAVE ON THE EXISTING ROADWAY NETWORK. UH, THE LOS, AGAIN, LEVEL OF SERVICE WAS A B, AND SO THAT WAS THAT FULL BUILD OUT, UH, WITH THE ORCHARD PARK SUBDIVISION, INCLUDING THE TWO AND A HALF ACRES, UH, UPFRONT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED FOR COMMERCIAL AT THAT POINT. AND SO AN LOSB IS EXCELLENT, UH, DURING THE PEAK HOURS, AN LOSD IS AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL. SO ADDING 8,000, UH, TRIPS PER DAY, I'M SORRY, 2,600 TRIPS PER DAY WILL LIKELY HAVE A MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE OVERALL TRAFFIC PATTERN AND TRAFFIC, UM, SITUATION ON 1518. AND AGAIN, TXDOT IS GOING TO BE ANALYZING WHETHER THEY'RE GOING, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THIS, UM, STRETCH OF 1518, UH, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. SO THERE MAY BE IMPROVEMENTS THAT TDOT WILL, UH, DO AS WELL DOWN DOWN THE LINE . SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST COMPLETED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, UC, VISION 35. AND SO WE IDENTIFIED THE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, SECTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT PERTAINED TO THIS, UH, PROPOSED SUBDIVISION. AND SO THE LAND USE SUBDIVISION [00:25:01] OR LAND USE SECTION, UH, THAT, THAT TALKS A LOT ABOUT JBSA COORDINATION, AND WE HAVE DONE THAT. WE DID SEND, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, ITERATIONS OF THIS PLAN TO JBSA. WE DID RECEIVE TWO LETTERS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS FROM THEM. UH, JBSA DID NOT OBJECT TO THE OVERALL PROPOSAL. THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, TALKS ABOUT TXDOT AND, UH, COORDINATION WITH NEIGHBORING TOWNS ALONG 1518. WE HAVE DONE THAT. WE KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN IN COORDINATION AND CONTACT WITH TXDOT, AS WELL AS WITH SHIRTS. UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SECTION, UH, TALKS ABOUT THE LAND USE, UH, FISCAL ANALYSIS. AND, UH, MS. TURNER WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT IN A FEW MOMENTS. THE EEC, I'M SORRY, THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE SECTION OF THE COMP PLAN, UH, TALKS ABOUT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE, LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE OF THE AMENITY CENTER, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE BY THE HOA BECAUSE THIS WILL HAVE AN HOA. UM, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE SECTION TALKS ABOUT COORDINATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS NOTIFIED, UH, ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND WE, UH, DID NOT RECEIVE, UH, ANY CORRESPONDENCE FROM THEM REGARDING IT. UM, THE PLAT OF SUBDIVISION. SO IF THE ZONING ENTITLEMENTS DO TAKE PLACE, MEANING IF THEY, IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS PROPOSAL TONIGHT, THEN AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THE SLASH CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING PLANS, THEY WILL ALSO SUBMIT A PLAT OF SUBDIVISION FOR REVIEW. SO THIS SUBDIVISION, UH, A PLAT OF SUBDIVISION WILL BE CREATED AT THAT STAGE OF THE PROCESS. PER, UM, STATE REQUIREMENTS, WE SENT OUT 18 LEGAL NOTICES AND WE RECEIVED, UM, POSITIVE RESPONSES, OBVIOUSLY FROM THE, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. UM, BUT WE ALSO RECEIVED, UH, A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM ONE OF THE, UH, NON-OWNERS, UH, OF THE, UH, ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE WAY ACROSS 1518. OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY, UH, SIGNIFICANT INQUIRIES. I'VE, UH, FIELDED A FEW CALLS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST DRIVING BY AND SAW THE SIGN THAT WAS POSTED. UH, BUT NOTHING SIGNIFICANT TO REPORT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID CONSIDER THIS AT THEIR LAST MEETING. AND THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL, UH, FOR THIS PROPOSAL. AND WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO MRS. TURNER. THANK YOU. LET SHE PASS ON. WE'RE GONNA PUT STUFF UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT FOR CITY COUNCIL, I DID, UM, PRINT SOMETHING OUT FOR YOU TOO. SO MICHAEL HAD MENTIONED THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND ONE OF THEM WAS A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO THE CITY, UM, OUT TO THE YEAR OF 2031. SO, UM, WE LOOKED AT THIS PROJECT AND WE LOOKED AT IT IN FIVE PHASES. SO THE FIRST PHASE IS PLAT AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE SECOND PHASE IS THE AMENITY CENTERS AND PHASES FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF THE HOMES THEMSELVES, WHICH IS PHASE ONE, TWO, AND THREE. SO IN LOOKING AT THIS, WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE CITY'S FEES, UM, THAT WERE GOING TO BE COLLECTED AND ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO DETERMINE, UH, THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY IF WE DECIDE TO GO FORWARD AND ANNEX THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION. SO FEES BASICALLY FALL INTO A COUPLE OF CATEGORIES. THERE ARE ONE TIME FEES, AND SOME OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE ARE RESTRICTED, WHETHER IT BE FOR A PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE, WHICH YOU WILL GET, OR A FEE IN LIEU OF DETENTION, WHICH YOU MAY GET. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR OTHER RESTRICTED FEES, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY UTILITY TYPE FEES. AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR, UM, WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES AND YOUR SEWER IMPACT FEES. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE YOUR RESTRICTED ONE-TIME RESTRICTED. THE OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES THAT YOU WOULD SEE WOULD BE, UM, ONE-TIME FEES, LIKE THE METERS THAT WE HAVE TO BUY ONCE THE HOUSES START GOING IN, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT FALLS UNDER THE UTILITY BUDGET. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GENERAL FUND REVENUE, UM, RECEIPTS THAT ARE ONE TIME, BUT AFTER THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF RECURRING GENERAL FUND, UH, REVENUE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE RECURRING GENERAL FUND EXPENSES. AND THE SAME CAN BE SAID FOR THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT. SO I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA ON THE HOUSING PORTION OF THE TYPES OF FEES THAT WE LOOKED AT. AND SO FOR YOU, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR FIRST PAGE, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S IN GREEN. AND SO WE ARE IDENTIFYING, UH, ONETIME GENERAL FUND REVENUE, ONETIME UTILITY AND STORMWATER REVENUE, PERPETUAL UTILITY AND STORMWATER REVENUE, PERPETUAL GENERAL FUND REVENUE. AND ANYTHING THAT IS IN RED IS AN EXPENSE. SO YOU HAVE YOUR PERPETUAL GENERAL FUND EXPENSE, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S EMS SERVICE. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE EMS SERVICE THERE. [00:30:01] SO THERE WILL BE A COST, IT RUNS ABOUT $70 PER HOUSEHOLD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR TOTAL ONETIME UTILITY EXPENSES, I'M SORRY, ANOTHER, UM, A ONETIME UTILITY EXPENSE. MM-HMM . AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE METERS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING IN INSTALLING. AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR ONE-TIME GENERAL FUND EXPENSES, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR INSPECTION FEES. THAT'D BE THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THAT. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS OUT THERE, THERE HAS TO BE AN INSPECTOR, UH, FOR PLATTING, THERE'LL BE AN ENGINEERING FEE. AND FOR EACH SUBDIVISION, THERE'LL BE AN ENGINEERING FOR YOU FOR PLATTING. BUT THOSE ARE YOUR BASIC EXPENSES. SO IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU FOR THE PLAT AND INFRASTRUCTURE, I KIND OF GROUPED IT INTO, UH, THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS. SO YOU'LL HAVE A ONE-TIME RESTRICTED REVENUE OF $795,000. THAT WOULD BE YOUR, UH, FEE IN LIEU OF DETENTION. AND YOUR PARK FEE, UH, PARK FEE IN LIEU IS ABOUT 500, $5,000. I'M GUESSING RANDY CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT. AND THEN, UM, YOUR PERPETUAL GENERAL REVENUE, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, SALES TAX, FRANCHISE FEES, AND, UM, PROPERTY TAX. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR TOTAL ONE-TIME EXPENSE OF, UH, 21,600 THAT IS ENGINEERING FEES. WHERE THE BULK OF THIS REALLY COMES INTO PLAY IS IF YOU GO DOWN AGAIN TO THE GREEN PHASE ON YOUR FIRST PAGE IS WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING DEVELOPED. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS ON ALL OF THAT. I'LL GIVE YOU TIME ON YOUR OWN TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT IF YOU COULD GO TO PAGE TWO ON A, UM, SUBDIVISION PLAN OF THIS NATURE, YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FROM THE TIME THEY START TO THE TIME THAT THEY BUILD THEIR LAST HOME, APPROXIMATELY SEVEN YEARS, RIGHT? WE'LL JUST CALL IT SEVEN YEARS. SO WHEN I WENT OUT AND BUILT EACH PARTICULAR PHASE FOR THE HOUSING, I STARTED THEM IN SEPARATE YEARS. BUT A LOT OF IT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 5, 10, 15, 20 YEARS. SO FOR YOUR, UH, WORK IN ALL PHASES FOR YOUR REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, THE REVENUE TO THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S A ONETIME FEE OR PERPETUAL FEE OR SALES TAX OR AVALOR, IS 4.9 MILLION. IF YOU GO TO YOUR 10 YEAR AND YOU LOOK AT IT, AND THIS IS CUMULATIVE BY THE TIME YOU GET TO YEAR 10, THE REVENUE TO THE CITY OVER EXPENDITURES IS 9.5 MILLION. WHEN YOU GET TO YEAR 15, AGAIN, BEING CUMULATIVE, NOW WE'VE GOT OUR FIVE 10, AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE, AND YOU GET TO THE END OF THE 15TH YEAR, THE REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES TO THE CITY IS 14.3 MILLION. AND WHEN YOU GET OUT AS FAR AS 20 YEARS, THE REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES FOR THE CITY IS 19 MILLION. NOW, THERE ARE SOME BIG THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO SERVICE THIS PARTICULAR ONE. I TALKED ABOUT THE EMS, AND WE'LL EVENTUALLY ABSORB THAT AS OUR FEES GO UP. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WATER, AND WE HAD A WATER PRESENTATION BY ATHENA, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE EIGHT MONTHS AGO. SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH WATER WE HAD, HOW MUCH WE LEASE, HOW MUCH WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UM, THROUGH OUR SHIRTS, UH, CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM, AND HOW MUCH WATER WE NEED TO PURCHASE. AND SO WHEN WE WERE FACTORING IN HOW MUCH WATER WE NEEDED TO SERVE UNIVERSAL CITY AT BUILD OUT, WE HAD ALREADY FACTORED IN THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A SUBDIVISION. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO OR WHEN, BUT WE HAD ALREADY FACTORED THAT IN THERE. SO IF YOU GO TO YOUR THIRD PAGE, I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT WATER FOR THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION. SO WE LOOKED AT IT IN TWO PHASES. ONE IS RESIDENTIAL. MICHAEL MENTIONED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 276 AND 285 HOMES. UM, I PLANNED IT FOR 285. AND SO WITH THE REQUIRED AVERAGE, REGULAR REQUIRED WATER USE PER PERSON, PER HOUSEHOLD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, WE FIGURED OUT FOR THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED ABOUT 10 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER. AND WHEN YOU CONVERT THAT TO ACRE FEET, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 107 TO 108 ACRE FEET FOR, UM, THE AMENITY CENTER, WHICH IS THE POOL, OBVIOUSLY. AND THEN THEY'VE GOT IRRIGATION NOT ONLY AT THE AMENITY CENTER, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE IRRIGATION AT ALL OF THEIR ENTRANCES. AND IN THE DOG PARK, AND PROBABLY AROUND THE MAILBOX, WE ESTIMATED USING A FEW OTHER, UM, SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY THAT THEY WOULD USE ANNUALLY, ABOUT 300,000, UM, GALLONS, WHICH IS JUST, UH, 0.92 OF AN ACRE FEET PER YEAR. NOW, REMEMBERING THAT WATER IS A ONE-TIME PURCHASE, ONCE WE PURCHASE IT, WE HAVE IT FOREVER. WELL, ASSUMING THAT THE WELL DOESN'T DRY UP AND, YOU KNOW, THE CREEK'S DRY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THERE'S NO RAIN. SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT WE NEED ABOUT 109 ACRE FEET TOTAL AT THE HIGHEST RATE AT WHICH WATER IS GOING AT TODAY, WHICH IS ABSORBENT, UH, WE FIGURED THAT THE PURCHASE AT 109 [00:35:01] ACRE FEET WOULD BE ABOUT $1.6 MILLION. SO WE KNOW FOR THEM, WE DON'T HAVE TO PURCHASE IT NOW, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO SERVE THEM NOW, BUT REMEMBER, WE WANNA SERVE ALL OF THE CITY AT A FIVE YEAR DROUGHT IN STAGE FIVE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN, AND AGAIN, WHEN I TALK REVENUE, I'M TALKING WATER REVENUE AT THIS POINT FOR, UM, THE AMENITY CENTER, THEIR WATER AND THEIR IMPACT FEES, UH, THEIR IMPACT FEES. DOES EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT AN IMPACT FEE IS? I'M JUST BEFORE I GO ON. OKAY. OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR. SO ANYTIME SOMEBODY CONNECTS TO THE POTABLE WATER SYSTEM OR TO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM, WHETHER IT BE A HOME OR FOR A COMMERCIAL, THEY HAVE TO PAY A ONE TIME FEE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION IN THAT TAP. ONCE THEY HAVE DONE THAT, THEY'VE BASICALLY PAID FOR THEIR SERVICES. AND THEN WHAT THEY DO IS THEY MAKE THAT MONTHLY PAYMENT LIKE THE REST OF US. AND SO WHEN THEY TAP IN FOR THE POOL FOR THE AMENITY CENTER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING A WATER WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE TO US THE WATER AND IMPACT FEE FOR JUST PLACING THEM ON THE SYSTEM, IT'S GOING TO BE $6,841. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE RESIDENTIAL FOR EACH WATER CONNECTION FEE, EACH HOUSEHOLD PAYS $3,881 TO CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM FOR THEIR SEWER. THEY PAY $655 TO CONNECT INTO THE SYSTEM. AND WHAT THOSE FEES ARE USED FOR ARE FOR WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS, INCLUDING WATER PURCHASE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL IMPACT FEES COLLECTED FOR THIS SUBDIVISION AT BUILD OUT THEIR WATER AND THEIR, UH, IMPACT FEES IS GONNA BE 1.1 MILLION. THEN WHEN YOU F FACTOR IN THE RESIDENTIAL WATER REVENUE, NOW WE'RE TALKING THEIR MONTHLY RAISE, JUST WATER, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT TALKING SEWER NOW, WE'RE TALKING WATER FOR THEIR, UH, RESIDENTIAL. THE COLLECTION FOR THEIR WATER WILL BE ABOUT $739,000 OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL POOL, IT'LL BE ABOUT $11,460 WORTH OF WATER BILLS THAT THEY'LL BE PAYING OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD. WHEN YOU ADD IN THE IMPACT FEES AND THE FIVE YEAR REVENUE, YOU END UP WITH, UM, A, UH, ONE 1,867,000. SO YOU WOULD, IF YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE THE $101.6 MILLION OF WATER, YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT IN FIVE YEARS. SO ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN FACTORED IN HERE. SO THE OTHER BIG QUESTION IS AS WELL, WHAT ABOUT STREETS? SO WE DO TRACK NEW SUBDIVISIONS AND HOW OFTEN WE NEED TO GO IN AND DO A REPAIR, WHETHER IT'S A POTHOLE OR A CUT IN REPAIR OR SEAL CRACKING. AND SO WE'VE GONE BACK OUT TO SUBDIVISIONS AND PROJECTS THAT WERE DONE ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO AND LOOKED IN OUR BOOKS TO SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE. AND WE'VE DONE NO STREET REPAIR IN ANY OF THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS. SO WE WOULD PROBABLY CAN IMAGINE OR SUPPORT THAT FOR AT LEAST THE 15 YEARS FORWARD FROM A NEW SUBDIVISION, WE WILL NOT BE DOING ANY STREET REPAIR. AND SO THAT IS NOT FACTORED INTO THIS CALCULATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? OH, I'M SORRY. WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, ONLY IN PRESENTATION YOU CAN ASK US WHEN WE GET TO DISCUSSION. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, UH, WE ARE READY TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ADDRESS EACH ITEM LISTED, UH, IN THIS SECTION. UH, LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE TOPICS OF THIS SPECIFIC SUBJECT, WHICH IS THE WHISPER, UH, WHISPERING SPRINGS, UH, UH, PROJECT. IT IS 7 0 8. WE'RE INTO PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISH TO, NO ONE SIGNED UP. BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS PROGRAM? IF NOT, WE WILL CLOSE AT 7 0 9 AND NOW COMES IN FOR CONSIDERATION FOR CONSIDERATIONS AND DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNSEL, CONSIDERATION AMONGST COUNSEL, AND VOTE BY COUNSEL. SO ANY COMMENTS, MR. AL? UH, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, ACTUALLY, UH, ON THE COUNCIL MESSAGE BOARDS, I CAME UP WITH VERY SIMILAR, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT UNDER, UH, WHAT THE, UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, JUST PROVIDED [00:40:01] WITH RE WITH PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO WATER RIGHTS. UH, NOT CAN YOU, THANK YOU. UM, I DID NOT SEE, I DID NOT SEE ESSENTIALLY, UH, A COUPLE OF ITEMS. ONE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE IMPACT ON THE POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE, UH, WATER RIGHTS. UH, CAN A STATEMENT BE MADE, UH, IN REGARD TO THE ADDITIONAL COST OF THE 280 PLUS HOMES IN THE, IN THIS AREA? SO, SO THE WORDS ON WHAT SPECIFIC ITEMS, SIR? I'M SORRY. ON WHAT SPECIFIC ITEM? WELL, WE'RE ADDING, WE'RE ADDING 280 PLUS FAMILIES YES, SIR. TO AN AREA OUTSIDE WHERE OUR, OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NORMALLY PATROLS AND OUR FIRE AND, AND FIRE ACCESS. SO THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME SORT OF AN IMPACT ON NUMBERS THAT THE, UH, POLICE AND FIRE CAN OPTIMALLY SERVE. SO THE POLICE AND FIRE ALREADY PATROL THAT AREA BECAUSE OF ORCHARD PARK, AND SO THEY ARE ALREADY OUT THERE ON DAILY, NIGHTLY, MID-SHIFT PATROLS. SO WE DO KNOW THAT AS THEY, UH, START ADDING HOMES OVER THE SEVEN YEAR PERIOD, THAT THEY WILL STILL BE MAKING THE SAME PATROLS OVER THERE. THEY MAY SHIFT THE DISTRICTS AND HOW THEY'RE SET UP IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION, WE DON'T LOOK AT IT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING ONE SUB SUBDIVISION. WE LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING ONE SUBDIVISION, TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THREE BIG BUILDINGS. IT'S AN OVERALL THING. SO IT'S NOT ONE ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT. WHEN WE RAN THE, UM, CALCULATIONS FOR THE REUNION PROJECT, WE DID TELL COUNCIL THAT WHEN THAT PROJECT GOES FULL ON, AND THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL AND OTHER PERSONNEL WITHIN THE CITY. BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR AT LEAST THREE, MAYBE EVEN FOUR YEARS. WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. WELL, IN, IN GENERAL, UM, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT ULTIMATELY ONE THING IN THE, IN THE CALCULATION OF NUMBER POLICE NEEDED ARE, ARE THE BASELINE POPULATION SIZE OF THE CITY. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE, THE MATRIX AND THE, UH, UH, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. SO, UH, WITH REGARD TO, AND SO I, I, I, I THINK YOU SAID THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT ON, UM, BECAUSE OF ORCHARD PARK, UH, ON THIS PUD AS FAR AS THE REQUIREMENT FOR INCREASED NUMBERS OF POLICE AND, AND FIRE PERSONNEL FOR THIS PROJECT, CORRECT? I DID SAY THAT. OKAY, PERFECT. AND, AND, UM, THEN, UH, AS FAR AS ACREAGE OF FEET AND WATER RIGHTS, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. AGAIN, I COME UP WITH, UH, VERY SIMILAR NUMBERS, UH, UH, A LITTLE BIT UNDER YOURS. UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE WATER CAPACITY OF OUR SYSTEM? UH, SO BASICALLY IS THERE NOT, IS THERE NOT AN EXTRA REQUIREMENT FOR THIS? UH, UM, MY CALCULATION, 41 MILLION EXTRA GALLONS, UH, FOR THE SYSTEM, FOR THE SUBDIVISION. UH, SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF WATER IN GENERAL, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET IT THERE? THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS PARTICULAR, THANK YOU, SIR. SO, SO BASICALLY NEED MORE WATER, NEED SOME MORE IN A TANK, NEED A BIGGER TANK, NEED BIGGER TANK SOMEWHERE. SO THE CAPACITY HAS TO GROW WITH POPULATION, RIGHT? SO THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN AND AROUND THE SUBDIVISION IS PUT IN AT THE EXPENSE OF THE DEVELOPER. THEY PAY FOR ALL THE WATER LINES, ALL THE SEWER LINES, IN TERMS OF THE CAPACITY. I DON'T KNOW WHICH WELL, THAT COMES OUT OF RANDY. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OUR LOWER TIER THAT, OKAY. IT'S A COMBINATION OF OUR LOWER TIER AND AS IT BACKS UP BY OUR UPPER TIER. BUT WE, WE MODELED THAT WHOLE AREA OVER THERE. IT'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE MODEL. THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE TWO 12 INCH LINES TO THAT AREA. SO THE WHOLE THING'S BEEN MODELED. UH, SO WE GOT PLENTY OF CAPACITY, INFRASTRUCTURE TANKS, EVERYTHING I, IS THAT REPRESENTED THEN IN THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE PRESENTED? NO. OKAY. SO THAT 12 INCH LINE IS ALREADY IN PLACE. MM-HMM . AND THAT WAS DONE PRIMARILY BY THE DEVELOPER THAT BUILT ORCHARD PARK, THE ORCHARD, ALONG WITH SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY, THE CITY, THE CITY PUT IN THE CROSSINGS THROUGH THE CREEK, UH, THAT, THAT FEED THE ORCHARD PARK AREA. SO THE DEVELOPER PUT IN [00:45:01] THE LINE THAT BROUGHT THE LINE TO ORCHARD PARK. THAT'S GREAT. AND SO EVERYTHING THAT'S GONNA CATION IN THE FUTURE OVER THERE WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPERS. OKAY. UH, I, I, UH, APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ION CONCERNS? I THANK YOU MR. BEARER. UM, YOU HAD A MAP UP THERE EARLIER THAT WAS SHOWING, UM, THE FLOODPLAIN POTENTIAL, THE, I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS THE BLUE COLORING SHADING THERE, GETTING UP CLOSE TO 1518. DO WE HAVE ANY HISTORICAL DATA SHOWING THAT THAT WATER HAS EVER GOTTEN UP TO 1518 TO WHERE WE WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH EGRESS FROM THOSE TWO EXITS FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? YES. YES, THERE HAS. YEAH. JUST A BUNCH OF DEER. YEAH. SO THE, THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A 98 IN 2002. SO THERE WAS SOME WATER THAT WENT OVER THE, OVER 15, 18 AT THAT POINT IN TIME, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SHIRTS, MAJOR FLOODING THAT THEY HAD. UH, WHETHER IT, IT GOT, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE, UH, 'CAUSE THIS IS THE BIGGER TRACK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM . WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT'S GOING, WHETHER IF THAT PROPERTY EVER GOT FLOODED, BUT BASED ON THE MODELING THAT, UH, THE FLOOD PLAIN THAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE, IT'S NOT SHOWING THAT IT'S IN THE FLIP PLAIN. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S 'CAUSE TXDOT IS GONNA BE THE ONE THAT'S PICK PICKING THE EGRESS OUTTA THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, CORRECT? CORRECT. UM, AND BOTH OF THEM JUST BEING THAT THAT'S, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME DIRECTION. I REALIZE 1518 IS THE ONLY MAJOR ROAD OVER THERE, BUT, UM, THERE'S NO REAL BACK WAY OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FROM WHAT I CAN TELL. THERE IS OFF OF MASKING BE IF THEY RIGHT. BUT THAT STILL COMES BACK TO 1518, OR WELL, MASKING GOES SHIRT TAKES YOU TO SEARCH PARKWAY. CAN YOU ACTUALLY, OKAY. YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I COULDN'T SEE FROM THE, FROM THE PICTURES WE HAD. ALL DEPENDS ON, NOW, IF BOTH ROADWAYS COME OFF OF 1518, THEN YES, THERE'S, YOU ONLY HAVE AN EXIT POINT THERE. DO WE NEED TECH STOP FOR THE EXIT IF WE WERE GOING TO BUILD OUT THE EXIT TO MAKI? NO, THAT WOULD BE CITY OF SHIRTS. HAVE WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT AS AN OPTION? THEY'RE IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. DO WE HAVE ANY INFLUENCE OVER THAT? WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, ANY OTHER CONCERNS IN THAT CASE? WE'LL CLOSE THIS AND GO TO [7. ANNOUNCEMENTS] ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, FIRST STEP IS, UM, CITY MANAGER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THE FIRST THING WE HAVE COME ABOUT IS THIS SATURDAY, MARCH 21ST, WHICH IS THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP, UH, FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SOME OF YOU ARE SMILING AT ME AND SOME OF YOU ARE NOT. I'M SORRY TO MAKE YOU WORK ON A SATURDAY. AND ALSO, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT ON SATURDAY, MARCH 21ST, JUST AS THE WORKSHOP IS FINISHING, THE, UH, UTSA WOMEN'S BASKETBALL IS IN THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP. . YEAH, IT DOES START AT TWO AND WE FINISH IT TOO. UM, ALSO COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE OUT AND ABOUT, THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY IS HAVING THEIR BOOK SALE. THEY ALWAYS APPRECIATE OUR SUPPORT. AND WHILE YOU'RE THERE, IF YOU WOULD POP INTO THE LIBRARY IS THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR, YOU KNOW, AT EASTER YOU HAVE THE LITTLE YELLOW PEEPS, WHICH ARE THE YELLOW MARSHMALLOW, UM, CHICKS. AND SO WE ALWAYS HAVE A PEEPS DIORAMA CONTEST. IF YOU GO IN, YOU CAN LOOK AT 'EM AND VOTE FOR YOUR FAVORITE. WE KNOW THAT THE, UM, STUDENTS WHO PUT THOSE TOGETHER ALWAYS APPRECIATE PEOPLE GOING IN AND LOOK AT 'EM. THEY'RE REALLY QUITE CLEVER. AND SOMETHING TO BEHOLD ON, UH, MARCH 28TH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY, WE WILL HAVE OUR ANNUAL EASTER EGG HUNT, AND THAT IS AT NINE O'CLOCK, AND THAT WILL BE AT RED HORSE PARK. AND THEN, UH, IF YOU'RE INTO FASHION AND YOU'RE A SENIOR, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU. ON APRIL 25TH, WE ARE HAVING OUR FIRST SENIOR PROGRAM. IT IS A 55 PLUS FASHION SHOW, AND THAT WILL BE HELD AT OLYMPIA HILLS. AND SO WE HOPE THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED WILL, UM, GET A TICKET AND COME OUT AND VISIT US. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. I HEAR BEAR IS MCING THAT . MAY, MAY, MAYBE NOT, MAYBE NOT ON THE, I DO WANNA SAY BEFORE I TAKE, UH, MY, UH, MY TIME ON THE COMPREHENSION PLAN WORKSHOP THIS SATURDAY, UH, WE DO HAVE TWO FOLKS THAT ARE NOT SITTING ON COUNCIL THAT ARE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL SEATS. UH, YOU TWO ARE INVITED AND IT'S, IT STARTS AT NINE O'CLOCK. SINCE CHANCES OF ONE OF YOU GETTING ON THERE IS DEFINITELY THERE, IF NOT BOTH. SO WE GOT, WANNA MAKE SURE ALL BASES ARE COVERED. AND MAYOR, IF WE MIGHT ALL SO, AND LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE WORKSHOP, AS IN EVERYTHING THE COUNCIL DOES, IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR VIEWING. THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ALSO. AND EVERYONE IS INVITED. BRING YOUR OWN COFFEE NOW. WE'RE GONNA HAVE COFFEE. WE'LL HAVE COFFEE. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, MS, MR. AND MRS. UH, REGGIE AND BETH SMITH. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. FROM THE [00:50:01] AMERICAN RED CROSS, WE'RE GONNA DO A PROCLAMATION. THIS IS, UH, AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH, NOT MARCH. AND THE RED CROSS IS ORGANIZATION, MAN, MAINLY BY VOLUNTEERS. AND ANYBODY HERE BEEN MILITARY, ANYBODY BEEN DEPLOYED WITH THE HARD EAST, MIDDLE EAST RUNNING THE OTHER WARS? YOU PROBABLY RUN INTO SOME OF THE, UH, AMERICAN, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE RED CROSS, UH, PERSONNEL. A LOT OF THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE EMPLOYEE, ARE THERE ON THEIR OWN, THEY'RE THERE VOLUNTEERS. AND OUR TWO GUESTS TONIGHT BE AND REGGIE ARE BOTH VOLUNTEERS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON CALL TONIGHT. SO AS SOON AS , THEY NEED TO GET UP, THEY DON'T WANT THEIR ALARMS TO GO OFF, AND THEY MEET COUNCIL MEMBER CLAP. YES. WHEREAS IN MARCH, WE CELEBRATE AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH BY HONORING OUR NEIGHBORS WHO MAKE ITS HUMANITARIAN MISSION POSSIBLE IN UNIVERSAL CITY EVERY DAY, THEIR ACTS OF KINDNESS CHANGE LIVES, BRINGING RELIEF, COMFORT, AND HOPE WHEN HELP CAN'T WAIT. THIS COMPASSIONATE SPIRIT RUNS DEEP IN OUR COMMUNITY, JUST AS IT HAS FOR 145 YEARS THROUGH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS. AND WHEREAS TODAY, THOSE WHO SERVE WITH THE SAN ANTONIO CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS, WHO SERVES THE WIDER BEAR COUNTY AREA LIGHT THE WAY DURING EMERGENCIES, WHETHER IT'S DELIVERING SHELTER, FOOD AND COMFORT AFTER DISASTERS, PROVIDING A SAFE, LIFESAVING BLOOD SUPPLY FOR PATIENTS FACING CONDITIONS LIKE CANCER TREATMENTS, CHILDBIRTH COMPLICATIONS AND TRAUMATIC INJURIES, ASSISTING MILITARY FAMILIES, VETERANS IN THEIR FAMILIES WITH 24 7 GLOBAL SUPPORT, OR EMPOWERING INDIVIDUALS WITH SKILLS LIKE FIRST AID AND CPR THAT SAVE LIVES. AND WHEREAS THESE COLLECTIVE EFFORTS ARE A POWERFUL REMINDER THAT THE STRENGTH OF OUR COMMUNITY LIES IN OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO ONE ANOTHER. AND WHEREAS AS WE MARK RED CROSS MONTH, WE CELEBRATE OUR LOCAL HEROES AND RESOLVE TO CONTINUE LIFTING EACH OTHER UP. SO NO ONE FACES AN EMERGENCY ALONE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MAXWELL, MAYOR OF CITY, UNIVERSAL CITY, THE 17TH DAY OF MARCH, 2026, BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY BY THE LAWS OF THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY, TEXAS, VERY MUCH MARCH, 2026, AS THE AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH 2026, THROUGHOUT THIS CITY, I ENCOURAGE ALL PEOPLE, UNIVERSAL CITY TO REACH OUT AND SUPPORT THIS MANDATORY MISSION. THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S IN RESPONSE TO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS. WE THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE, UH, MARCH, UH, AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA PUT 'EM ON THE SPOT. NOW, THE, SINCE IT'S LARGELY A VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITY, AND I KNOW WE HAVE HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF VOLUNTEERS AT UNIVERSAL CITY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A FEW WORDS TO EXPLAIN HOW THEY COULD VOLUNTEER POSSIBLY? OH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, WE, THERE IS ON, ON THE, UH, WEBSITE, THERE IS A, YOU JUST TYPE IN, UH, AMERICAN RED CROSS VOLUNTEER, AND IT TELLS YOU IF YOU JUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THAT WEBSITE AND IT'LL ASKS YOU SOME INFORMATION AND YOU FILL IN YOUR INFORMATION. AND ALSO THEY'LL ASK YOU, UH, THEN THEY'LL DO A BACKGROUND CHECK ON YOU BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. AND, UH, ONCE THAT, UH, IF BACKGROUND CHECK COMES BACK, THEY'LL RESPOND TO YOU RIGHT AWAY WITHIN LIKE TWO TO THREE DAYS AND SAYS, WELCOME. AND WE DO, UH, SATURDAYS, WE DO WEDNESDAYS, AND WE WOULD JUST LOVE, WE MEET VOLUNTEERS ALL THE TIME. WE'RE IN LITTLE, WE'RE NOT AS SHY AS WE USED TO BE, BUT WE, WE TEACH AND WE ALSO GO OUT. WE, THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAD, UM, WE DID THE, UH, SANDY OAKS DOWN IN, UH, SOUTH OF SAN ANTONIO WHERE THE PEOPLE, UH, FIVE TO EIGHT PEOPLE WERE BURNED, COMPLETELY BURNED OUT OF THEIR HOMES FROM JUST THE FIRM. AND, UH, WE NEEDED, WE HAD TO CALL HOME PEOPLE IN AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, TO COME AND SIT WITH THEM, YOU KNOW. AND, UH, BUT, AND WE ALSO, I SAT AND BABYSAT KITTYCAT THAT NIGHT BECAUSE THE HOTELS THAT THEY, THE PEOPLE WENT TO, BECAUSE THEY HAD NO PLACE TO STAY, WE WOULDN'T TAKE KITTYCAT. SO WE TOOK THEIR KITTY CATS IN AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT THE MAYOR THERE HAD OPENED UP TO US. AND I SAT AND TOOK CARE OF THE KITTY CATS ALL NIGHT. NOW I'M A CAT PERSON, SO I DIDN'T MIND THAT AT ALL. BUT YES, WE DO, WE DO NEED VOLUNTEERS ALL THE TIME. UH, BUT PLEASE DO THAT. IF YOU HAVE SOME EXTRA HOURS, WE'LL WORK YOU IN, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AT NIGHT, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BUT [00:55:01] THOSE PEOPLE NEED YOU BADLY. AND I KNOW UNIVERSAL CITY IS, HAS A HARD GOAL. WE CAME AND HELPED WITH, UH, WITH THE FIRE OVER THE FALCON APARTMENTS AND, AND YOUR CITY IS JUST AWESOME. YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD OF THOSE. THE PEOPLE THAT OPENED UP THERE AT THE BAPTIST CHURCH AND THEY OPENED UP THEIR HEARTS TO US. THEY OPENED UP, WE SET UP A SHELTER THERE FOR FIVE DAYS. THAT IS UNSPEAKABLE BECAUSE AROUND HERE WITH COOPERATION IS NOT THE BEST. BUT YOU GUYS WERE AWESOME. TOTALLY AWESOME. AND WE WENT IN AND WE HELPED WITH THE PEOPLE. WE GOT INTERVIEWS FOR THEM, WE HELPED THEM FIND NEW PLACES. BUT WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT OF THE FOOD AND THE OPENING UP THE SHELTERS, IT NEVER WOULD'VE BEEN, WOULD NEVER BEEN POSSIBLE. SO YOU GUYS ARE REALLY DOING IT AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. TODAY OUR, I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WOULDN'T BE LEAVING . WELL GO DIRECTION. GOTTA TURN OUR CALL. PHONES BACK OFF. , LET UNKNOWN. IN FACT, WE DO HAVE A UNIVERSAL CITY RESIDENT THAT VOLUNTEERS WITH THE, UH, RED CROSS, AND HE DEPLOYED TWO, I WANNA SAY TO CALIFORNIA DURING THE FIRES AND SPENT ABOUT THREE, FOUR WEEKS AWAY WORKING AND MANNING, UH, DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE. UM, CONTINUATION KNOWN FOR MANAGEMENT OR MANAGER, UH, EXCUSE ME, MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, I MENTIONED THE, THE COMPREHENSION PLAN FOR SATURDAY, WHICH IS GREAT AND IT'S OPEN TO EVERYONE. UM, UPDATE. A FEW WEEKS AGO I MENTIONED THAT I WAS WORKING A PROJECT WITH, UH, UH, DIRECTOR OF SERVICES AT RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, ATTEMPTING TO GET, UH, ACCESS FOR OUR CITIZENS TO MAYBE USE SOME OF THEIR MWR PROGRAMS, SUCH AS THE BOWLING CENTER, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE. UH, SOME OF THE OTHER MWR FACILITIES, OWN BASE, MAYBE THE BX, UH, UH, THE BASE EXCHANGE, UH, SNACK BAR, THE CLUB IN CERTAIN OPERATIONS, AND ALSO THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY OUT AT THE CANYON LAKE. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE DIRECTOR OF SERVICES, AND HE IS REALLY KEEN ON THIS PROJECT. HE'S TAKEN IT, UH, TO HEART. HE IS SENDING A LETTER IS SUPPOSED TO BE SENT THIS WEEK TO THE AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS, THE APPROVING IN WASHINGTON, TO, FOR APPROVAL OF THAT. IT'S THE POLICY, THE PROCESSS, THE PROCESS IN WHICH WE'RE DOING IT. BUT ANYWAY, UH, WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AN ANSWER COMING BACK SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS OR SO. IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. HOWEVER, THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING OFF IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW HAS PUT A MONKEY WRENCH INTO THAT, BUT IT HASN'T STOPPED. IT. ALSO COMING UP AT THE END OF THE, OF NEXT MONTH IS ALSO OUR, UH, THE AIR SHOW, THE THUNDERBIRD AIR SHOW. AT THIS TIME, IT IS STILL A PLANNED EVENT. ASSESSMENTS, UH, THE HEALTH, OUR, UH, SAFETY AND THREAT ASSESSMENTS ARE BEING CONTINUOUSLY REVIEWED. SO WE'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED AS MUCH AS WE CAN. AND WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MAYOR. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS POLICY. WE ALWAYS START WITH THE INVOCATION PERSON AND MR. UH, SHELBY, THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, THE ONLY THING I HAVE TONIGHT IS I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO SENT, UH, TOOK THE TIME TO SEND ME AN EMAIL. UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS KNOW THAT, UH, THOSE DO, THOSE DO GET READ AND, UM, WE APPRECIATE, UH, THE TIME THAT YOU TAKE OUT OF YOUR PERSONAL LIFE TO, TO PUT THE INFORMATION TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW YOUR POINT OF VIEW. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ADD MAYOR PROAM. I WAS GONNA ALSO SAY THANK YOU FOR EMAILING IN. IT'S NICE TO GET THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE FEELING AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IMPACTFUL. AND I ALSO WANTED TO SAY, KIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COST ANALYSIS ON THAT. YOU PREPARED. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE AND IT WAS GOOD INFORMATION. THANK YOU, MR. COSBY. I'M GOOD, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. BERNARD. UH, UH, YES, SIR. UH, THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, MAAM. MR. RAB. DR. BERNIE, UH, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, FIRST OF ALL FOR MR. HILL, IF HE NEEDS IT. NUMBER TWO, UH, TO MR. HILL. I VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE DONATION, UH, TO THE PARKS THAT, THAT HELPED WITH THE SCOUT PROJECT. UH, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, OVER SIX PEOPLE. RANDY, HOPEFULLY RANDY WILL COME UP WITH A LIST TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYBODY THAT'S, UH, CONTRIBUTES SUPPORT TO THAT PARK BENCH EFFORT. UM, BUT I FOUND THAT, AND I, I, I THOUGHT, OH, I KNOW THAT GUY. OKAY. UM, UH, MR. MAYOR, ESSENTIALLY, UM, WE HAD GONE THROUGH A LITTLE, A, A LITTLE DEBATE PROCESS ON WHAT THE AUDIT REPRESENTED AND WHAT IT DIDN'T REPRESENT. AND, AND, AND BEFORE WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, FOR LAST WEEK, LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST STATE THAT WHEN, UM, MS. TURNER SAID THAT [01:00:01] THE STREETS ARE NOT DEPRECIATED UNTIL THE CITY HAS ISSUED A BOND FOR IT, SHOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE AUDIT REPRESENTS. UH, SHE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S DEPRECIATED OVER A SET AMOUNT OF TIME, AFTER WHICH THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS A ZERO VALUE. HOWEVER, THIS DOES NOT MEAN THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S AT THE END OF ITS LIFE. IT CONTINUES TO BE USED THE AUDIT OR BOOK VALUE OF THE STREET DOES NOT INFLUENCE ITS USABILITY OF THE STREET. I OFFER THIS AS A STATEMENT THAT GOES FOR ALL OF OUR CITY ASSETS. SO JUST BECAUSE IT, IT HAS AN A, A, A AUDITED VALUE, A DEPRECIATION VALUE, ZERO DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN NEED, NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. LOOKING UP THE AUDIT TABLE, UM, BASICALLY WE HAD A DEPRECIATION OF SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER, $36 MILLION OF WHICH ONLY $16 MILLION WAS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE KNOW FROM RANDY THAT'S GONNA BE CLOSER TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS BY THE TIME WE GET THE 93 STREETS REPAIRED. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE SECOND, SECOND ITEM WAS AN OBSERVATION THAT IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE OBSERVATION OF THE, THE, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS PRESENTED BY OUR SAFETY, UH, UH, ACTION PLAN, UH, GROUP. IT'S IMPORTANT TO APPRECIATE THAT THE SAFETY ACTION PLAN, IS IT THE HEART OF THE SAFETY ACTION PLAN IS OUR PERSONNEL, RANDY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, UH, UH, MI MICHAEL, AND, AND EVERYONE ON THAT TEAM. IT SHOULD NOT TAKE US A CONSULTANT TO COME IN TO LOOK AT OUR OWN STATISTICS AND SAY WHERE OUR ACCIDENTS ARE HAPPENING OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, HAVE MEETINGS. UM, WE DON'T NEED A CONSULTANT NECESSARILY TO COME IN. IT CONSULTANTS ARE GOOD, BUT WE DON'T NEED THEM TO, TO ESSENTIALLY, I, I THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND, UM, UH, UH, SAFETY ON OUR STREETS AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, UM, UH, I, I OFFER THAT AS A SUGGESTION, NOT AS A FORMAL MOTION, UH, UH, FOR, UH, COUNCIL AND STAFF TO PONDER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU, MR. RUBAL. UH, COUNCILMAN ETTE. UM, MARCH 21ST, ALSO IN THE MORNING, FROM NINE, UH, TO 11, WE WILL BE HAVING OUR FIRST FREE TAI CHI PROGRAM THAT IS VOLUNTARILY. AND I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT IT'S COMING. AND SORRY I CAN'T BE THERE AND HOPE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP AT REDHORSE TO DO THIS. SO THIS CAN BE A PROGRAM THAT WE CONTINUE. UM, ALSO, THANK YOU. IN THE TWO YEARS I HAVE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER, I'VE PROBABLY RECEIVED LESS THAN 10 EMAILS, AND IN THE LAST THREE DAYS, I'VE RECEIVED ABOUT OVER A HUNDRED. AND I DO APPRECIATE, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE, THEY WERE ALL VERY KIND. THEY WERE ALL VERY RESPECTFUL. I THINK I ANSWERED ALL OF THEM. UM, SO YOUR OPINION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE DO HEAR IT. NOW, MR. MAYOR, ALSO, I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS BY SEVERAL PEOPLE WANTING TO KNOW HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR MEETINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT. UH, THEY DO GO ON. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO GET UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEETINGS AND LEAVE BECAUSE OF TIME. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANNA WATCH US ONLINE, UH, AND THEY GET LOST IN IT. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA THAT WE FIND A WAY TO MAKE OUR MEETINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT? THE SURROUNDING COUNCILS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO, UH, PUT A LIMIT ON HOW LONG WE HAVE TO SPEAK, AND THEY ALSO PUT A LIMIT OF TWO ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS PER AGENDA ITEM WHERE EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE. I JUST THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS AT A FUTURE AGENDA. I'LL MAKE THAT DECISION. EXCUSE ME. I'LL MAKE THAT DECISION. YES, I, WE WILL PUT THAT ON A FUTURE ONE. I, I, I AGREE. I'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD, UH, THAT'S SOME GOOD SUBJECT THERE THAT WE CAN GO WITH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS. ARE YOU ASKING, UH, FOR US TO LOOK AT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SPEAKING OR THE STAFF IS SPEAKING, OR THE COUNCIL IS SPEAKING? COUNSEL. OKAY. 'CAUSE THE RESIDENTS ALREADY HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. AND WHEN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, WE WANT THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION. OKAY. UH, SO YEAH, LET JUST TO ASK AROUND, UH, MOST OF THE OTHER COUNCILS I UNDERSTAND HAVE LIMITS, AND IT'S NOT [01:05:01] TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM TALKING, IT'S JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PRECISE AND TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS INTERESTED. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. AND NATY, UH, I RECEIVED QUITE A FEW EMAILS ALSO ON THE, UH, TRASH TALK. SO, UM, I HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO EVERY ONE OF THEM, BUT I HAVE READ EACH AND EVERY ONE. UH, THE CONTENTS WILL COME OUT IN THE DISCUSSION LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON, THIS EVENING. SO AT THAT, THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE CLOSED. AND LET'S MOVE INTO [8. CONSENT AGENDA] THIS CONSENT AGENDA. UH, THE ONLY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA RIGHT NOW IS THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. SO I'LL GO CALL FOR A MOTION, MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOLDSBY AYE. MAYOR PROTON FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. MOTION CARRIED. [9. ACTION ITEMS] ITEM NINE, NUMBER ACTION ITEMS A RESOLUTION 9 1 4 B 2026 AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY AND LINEBERGER, GAR, BLAIR AND SAMPSON, LLP, TO RENEW AND EXTEND THE CONTINGENT FEE CONTRACT FOR DELINQUENT TAXES. YOU KNOW, MAYOR, THERE IS ONE THING THAT GETS TALKED ABOUT MORE THAN TRASH. AND THAT'S TAXES. THAT'S TRUE. KEEP THAT IN MIND THIS EVENING. NO, IN THIS CASE, IT'S A VERY GOOD THING. SO, AS YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO NEED A LITTLE NUDGE EVERY NOW AND THEN TO REMIND THEM TO PAY THEIR TAXES OR TO PAY THEIR BACK TAXES OR THEIR MISSED TAX PAYMENT. AND FOR THAT, WE DO USE LINEBARGER. UH, THEY'VE BEEN OUR TAX ATTORNEY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE GOOD. OUR COLLECTION RATE RUNS AROUND 99%, WHICH IS NEAR PERFECTION. AND SO FOR THAT, THE STAFF IS ASKING THAT YOU EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS. AND, UM, THE MOTION IS STATED ON YOUR COVER SHEET. OKAY, KYLE, FOR A MOTION, IT'S HIDING. I, YEAH. WHERE IS IT? IS IT UNDER ACTION ? LAST THING I MOVE. WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 9 1 4 DASH B DASH 2026, THE AGREEMENT TO RENEW AND EXTEND A CONTRACT WITH LINEBERGER, KOGAN, BLAIR AND SAMPSON LLP. AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOLSBEE AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. MAYOR PROTON FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. MOTION CARRIED. APPROVED. ITEM B AWARD, AN EXCLUSIVE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF UNIVERSAL CITY. UM, THIS IS A EITHER APPROVAL OR A RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGE. SO, UH, OR, OR PROVIDE AS LONG AS WE PROVIDE CLEAR GUIDANCE TO STAFF OF WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THE SECOND MOST TALKED ABOUT THING IN THE CITY TRASH. 'CAUSE WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TAXES. UM, SO AS YOU REMEMBER, WE DID HIRE A SOLID WASTE SPECIALIST TO DO OUR RFP AND OUR BIDDING PROCESS FOR US. AND SO, MR. LAND TRIPP IS HERE TODAY. HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WAS DONE AND WHO, UH, PARTICIPATED IN TERMS OF STAFF AND VENDORS, AND THEN WHAT THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION IS FROM THE JUDGING COMMITTEE. UH, MAYOR BELL WILL DO YOU JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. WELL, YOU CAN DO THE QUESTION YOU WANT. I GUESS WHAT I HEARD IS I BETTER TALK FAST. LYNN LANTHROP HERE WAS SOLID WASTE SPECIALIST MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND HONOR TO SERVE YOU. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. WE WENT THROUGH OUR STANDARD PROCESS THAT WE OUTLINED TO YOU AFTER WE TOOK YOUR INPUT AND PUT IT INTO THE DOCUMENT. WHO AM I TELLING TO MOVE THIS LINE? OH, I CAN DO IT FOR YOU ACTUALLY. OH, I, I'LL DO IT. UM, DID, YOU'RE POINTING IT NOW. OKAY, GOT IT. I'LL GET THIS DOWN. SO THE SLIDES ARE GOING TO SHOW THE RESULTS OF THE ACTIVITY IF I CAN GET IT TO GO FORWARD. OKAY. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT, SO LET'S REVIEW WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE BASIS FOR YOUR EMAILS. UH, YOU ARE A TWO TIME A WEEK, UH, CITY CURRENTLY USING CARTS, UH, WHICH IS NOT THE PREDOMINANCE IN TEXAS, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW. I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU BEFORE, BUT IT STILL MAY BE YOUR DECISION. UH, YOU HAVE YOUR RECYCLING ONE TIME A WEEK IN A CART. THE CONTRACTOR SUPPLIES THE CARTS AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTED, UH, ON DEMAND UP TO ONE TIME A MONTH. AND YOU HAVE, UH, THIS IS WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE REAL IMPROVEMENT. UH, RIGHT NOW YOUR BRUSH AND BULK [01:10:01] IS COLLECTED QUARTERLY, AND IT'S A MAXIMUM OF SIX CUBIC YARDS. I ALWAYS USE A REFRIGERATOR TO GET TWO YARDS OUT THERE. SO IT'S THREE REFRIGERATORS. UH, THAT'S WHAT YOUR LIMIT IS, UH, THAT YOU HAVE QUARTERLY. ALL OF THE DUMPSTERS IN TOWN ARE UNDER THE ONE VENDOR AND ALL OF THE LARGE ROLL OFF CONTAINERS ARE UNDER THAT SAME VENDOR. SO IT'S AN ALL ENCOMPASSING CONTRACT. OKAY? SO THE CURRENT CONTRACT SPECIFICATIONS, THE RATE THAT IS NET TO THE VENDOR CURRENTLY IS 28 0 7. THE CITY COLLECTS ON TOP OF THAT A 10% FRANCHISE FEE SALES TAX AND THEN RETURNS 28 0 7 TO THE VENDOR FROM THE TOTAL BILL. THE PINK TAG, WHICH SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER, AND JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE THAT MAY NOT KNOW, IS JUST A TAG THAT CAN BE PURCHASED AND PUT ON A BAG. IF THAT'S ALL SOMEONE HAS, THAT'S EXTRA, THEY BUY THAT TAG AND THE GARBAGE COMPANY PICKS IT UP. NOW, LARGER, UH, LARGER QUANTITY FAMILIES CAN GET AN ADDITIONAL TRASH CARD. CURRENTLY THE BILL IS $10 AND 47 CENTS FOR EACH OF THOSE CARTS. AND THE CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE WORKING UNDER NOW EXPIRES AUGUST ONE. SO WE'RE MOVING PRETTY QUICK. BASED ON WHAT Y'ALL TOLD ME AT THE LAST TIME I CAME TO SEE YOU, YOU WANTED TO GET PRICING ON THE FOLLOWING FOUR OPTIONS. A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE, BUT OPTION ONE, TWICE A WEEK CONTINUES. AND THE RECYCLING CONTINUES ONE TIME A WEEK. THEIR SHIFT IS MASSIVE IN THE, AND BULK, IT GOES WEEKLY FOR CUBIC YARDS. JUST TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU, THAT'S 208 YARDS. NOW NO ONE'S GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE THAT EVERY WEEK, BUT IF SOMEONE DID, IT'S 208 YARDS A YEAR. RIGHT NOW THEY GOT, UH, 50 SOMETHING. SO IT'S, IT'S QUITE A, QUITE A CHANGE. OPTION TWO WAS DROPPING TO ONCE A WEEK, WHICH PROBABLY CAUSED SOME CONSTERNATION HERE AND THERE. BUT THE RECYCLING STAYS THE SAME IN ALL OF THESE. THE BRUSH AND BULK IS GOING TO BE NOW WEEKLY, UP TO FOUR YARDS. OPTION THREE SHIFTS BACK TO TWICE A WEEK AND RECYCLING GOES TO EVERY OTHER WEEK. AND THEN OPTION FOUR IS ONE TIME A WEEK, GARBAGE EVERY OTHER WEEK, RECYCLING AND WEEKLY BRUSH AND BULK. SO I TOOK WHAT YOU TOLD ME AND PUT IT INTO A DOCUMENT AND THE DOCUMENT IS THE SAME. SO BASED ON HOW Y'ALL DECIDE TONIGHT, THE ONLY THING THAT HAS TO BE CHANGED OR ADJUSTED, THERE'S A BIG BLANK IN IT RIGHT NOW. AND THE SCOPE OF SERVICE, EVERYTHING ELSE THE ATTORNEYS HAVE ALL VETTED, UH, FOR THE CITY SIDE. UH, SO, SO THE, THE SKELETON IS READY AND, UH, IT'S A TOUGH CONTRACT. IT'S ALL LOADED YOUR WAY. AND IN IT, UH, ALL THE, ALL THE COURTS HAVE TO BE REPLACED WITH BRAND NEW ONES. RECYCLING GARBAGE. ALL THE DUMPSTERS IN TOWN WILL GET A NEW LOOK. BRAND NEW CARTS. THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION PROGRAM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO CONTINUE IT IS IN THERE. YOU GOT, WE HAVE A PRICE ON THAT FOR YOU. THE PINK TAG OPTION WILL STILL BE THERE. AND THE UNUSUAL ACCUMULATION IS BASICALLY WE TRIED TO, WE HAVE SOMETHING IN HERE FOR EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN AT A HOUSE SO THEY DON'T END UP CALLING YOU. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE GONNA GET THE GARBAGE PICKED UP, THE RECYCLING PICKED UP. IF THEY GOT A LITTLE EXTRA GARBAGE, THEY CAN USE A PINK TAG. IF THEY'RE KIND OF A REGULAR, THEY GOT A BIG FAMILY, THEY MIGHT NEED AN EXTRA TRASH CART AND THEY CAN DO THAT. AND THEN IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS JUST NOT IN WHAT I TOLD YOU JUST NOW, THEY CAN REQUEST AN UNUSUAL ACCUMULATION. AND IT'S NOT JUST A WILD THING. THE VENDORS ALL HAD TO GIVE A PRICE PER HOUR AND A PRICE BY THE VOLUME AND THEY HAVE TO SEND A SUPERVISOR OUT TO THAT HOUSE. AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO AGREE, THEY HAVE TO AGREE. THE HOUSE OWNER HAS TO AGREE WITH THE GARBAGE COMPANY AND THEN THEY'LL CHARGE. SO Y'ALL ARE ALWAYS, AS I PROMISED YOU, YOU'RE ALWAYS IN CONTROL OF THE PRICING. YOU'RE IN CONTROL BASED ON WHICH OPTION Y'ALL VOTE ON. BUT YOU'RE IN CONTROL OF THE, OF THE RESIDENTIAL PRICE. YOU'RE IN CONTROL OF ALL THE DUMPSTER PRICING AND YOU'RE IN CONTROL FOR THE BIG ROLL OFF BOXES. [01:15:02] SO I HAD MENTIONED THIS TO YOU A SECOND AGO. THIS IS GONNA MAKE A A BASED ON MY BELIEF FROM KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL TRAINING I HAD FOR ALL THOSE YEARS. THE FASTER BRUSHING BULK GETS OUT OF A TOWN, THE CLEANER THE TOWN STAYS, IT'S JUST A FACT. AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE A MASSIVE AMOUNT THAT EACH HOUSE CAN DRAW UPON WEEKLY FOR CUBIC YARDS. HAS TO BE SET OUT IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE FOR A PERSON TO COLLECT IT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TIED AND BUNDLED, BUT IT HAS TO BE COMMON SENSE THAT YOU CAN'T PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT'S GONNA INJURE SOMEBODY. SO THAT IS A TWO WAY THING. THE HOMEOWNER'S GOTTA BE THINKING ABOUT. THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA PICK THAT UP DON'T WANNA HURT SOMEBODY. THE DUMPSTER SERVICE, THEY WERE JUST SHOWN WHAT IS IN EXISTENCE NOW. YOU HAVE 240 DUMPSTERS IN PLAY. UH, THE FREQUENCIES DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF JUST A LITTLE BIT, I ASKED THE VENDORS, WERE YOU GONNA GO THROUGH AND POLL THESE BUSINESSES THAT OVER THE YEARS, THIS IS MY OPINION, BUT I'M RIGHT ABOUT THIS. THEY'VE LET SOME SMALL CONTAINERS, UH, END UP BEING SERVICED MORE FREQUENTLY AND THEY SHOULD HAVE MOVED THE, THE CUSTOMER TO THE LARGER CONTAINERS TO GET THE PRICE BREAK. AND WE WERE ASSURED THAT A SALES PERSON IS GOING TO VISIT WITH EACH ONE OF YOUR BUSINESSES AND ENSURE THEY HAVE THE MOST EFFICIENT THING IN PLAY. 'CAUSE THAT EFFICIENCY IS PRICE, UH, UH, VARIANCE IN GARBAGE BUSINESS. ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT THE, THAT THE CITY HAS NOW AT ALL OF YOUR FACILITIES WILL REMAIN FREE. AND IT RESTATING NEW CONTAINERS, BIG ON APPEARANCE, LOOKING FOR A NEW APPEARANCE HERE IN UNIVERSAL CITY. NOW THE WINNER IS GOING TO REPAY THE CITY FOR WHAT WE CHARGE. AND WE INSERTED INTO THE CONTRACT, AS I PROMISED YOU, I WOULD, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL NEVER HAVE TO USE THESE. BUT THEY'RE IN THERE, THEY'RE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT ALLOW YOU TO CHARGE THE VENDOR. IF THEY HAVE A REPETITIVE, SPECIFIC FAILURE, AS I TOLD YOU, HAVING DONE THIS FOREVER, TO BRING PERSON IN HERE AND LET Y'ALL HAMMER ON THEM. IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL, BUT NOTHING REALLY GETS FIXED. WHEN YOU TAKE MONEY OUT THEIR POCKET, EVERYTHING GETS FIXED. SO THAT IS IN THERE AND THEY'RE SPECIFIC TO THINGS, UH, THAT WOULD BE OF A REPETITIVE NATURE. Y'ALL. IF PHONE CALLS END UP GETTING UP TO Y'ALL'S, HER LEVEL OR YOUR LEVEL, THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GETTING INTO THIS. BECAUSE ALL OF THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN PLACE HERE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRAP IT RIGHT WHEN THE, RIGHT, WHEN THE MISTAKE IS MADE AND GETS CORRECTED IN 24 HOURS, IF SOMETHING SLIPS THROUGH AND IT KEEPS SLIPPING THROUGH, WELL THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A DAY IN COURT. THEY'RE GONNA PAY. EVERYBODY USES TODAY GPS TRACKING EQUIPMENT SO THAT THEY WILL BE REQUIRED BASED ON THAT, BASED ON THE CALLS THEY RECEIVE. THEY HAVE TO SEND A REPORT TO THE CITY EVERY SINGLE DAY. THIS HAPPENED TODAY AND THIS IS HOW IT WAS FIXED TODAY. ONCE AGAIN, NO PHONE CALLS SLIPPING THROUGH, GETTING TO YOU. OKAY? SO THE PROCESS, AS I EXPLAINED TO Y'ALL EARLIER, IT'S KINDA LIKE A FUNNEL. WE HAD PEOPLE COME TO PARTICIPATE, HAD A PRE-BID RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM, WALKED THROUGH, LET 'EM KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL GAVE SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT I WROTE. AND THEY, THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT COULD MAKE 'EM DISQUALIFIED. AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT. AND IT WAS A GOOD FOOTBALL GAME. AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO NARROW THIS DOWN, NARROW THIS DOWN BECAUSE THESE FOLKS HERE WHO GAVE OF THEIR TIME, THAT DOCUMENT WAS, UH, 70, 75 PAGES. SO THE, THE, THE MATERIAL THAT CAME IN, IN RESPONSE TO THAT 75 PAGE, ABOUT A HUNDRED PAGES. SO I HAD A, UH, I HAD A LITTLE SESSION, UH, WITH THE GROUP. THIS GROUP HERE HAD A LITTLE SESSION AND SAID, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND THIS IS HOW YOU SCORE IT. AND GREAT, THIS IS A GREAT GROUP OF CITY PEOPLE AND THEY PUT THE SHOULDER TO IT. OH, HERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. SO THIS IS WHAT THEY DID. THEY TOOK THE WRITTEN BOOK. I GUIDED THEM AS, YOU KNOW, GET AWAY FROM THE EXTRANEOUS PICTURES AND ALL THAT STUFF. THIS IS WHAT THE MEAT, THIS IS WHAT [01:20:01] YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THESE ITEMS HERE ARE WHAT MAKE OR BREAK A PERFORMANCE OF GARBAGE COLLECTION IN ANY CITY IN TEXAS. AND IT'S, THEY WERE JUDGED ON, UH, WE DIDN'T WANT NEW ROOKIES IN HERE. WHO ELSE HAVE THEY SERVICED OF YOUR SIZE? DO THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY THOSE NEW EVERYTHINGS? DO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA PICK IT UP, DO THEY HAVE A RESUME? DO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING? MOST IMPORTANT, THE DOUBLE DIGITS IN THEIR OPERATING PLAN? THEY HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THAT JUDGING GROUP, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON MONDAY? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON TUESDAY? WHAT TIME THEY GOING TO START? WHAT TIME THEY GONNA GET THROUGH EVERYTHING. SO YOU HAD TO BE ABLE TO, THEY HAD TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE. AND THEN THEY HAD TO SHOW THIS TRIR AND DART SAFETY SCORES. THOSE ARE TWO SCORES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT REQUIRE EVERY MONTH THAT, THAT'S NOT ALL ABOUT EVERYTHING INVOLVING SAFETY IN THAT GARBAGE COMPANY, BUT IT IS, IT'S AN INDICATOR. THE CLOSER TO ZERO THAT SCORE WOULD BE, THE MORE YOU CAN TELL BECAUSE THEY'RE TURNING THIS INTO THE FEDS, THE MORE YOU CAN TELL THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION. WHEN YOU HAVE TRUCKS MOVING AROUND WITH SCHOOL BUSES, YOU CAN'T HAVE A TRIP UP. SO SAFETY IS IN THAT SECTION. AND THE TWO THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, THEY, THEY MUSTERED ALL OF THIS. AND THEN NO MATTER IF THE INCUMBENT HAD ONE OR IF IT WAS A NEW COMPANY, THEY HAVE TO GET FROM A TO TO B AND IT'S JUST NOT THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD TO GET THESE CARTS IN PLACE, THESE DUMPSTERS IN PLACE AND EVERYTHING WITHOUT DISTURBING THE LIVES OF YOUR RESIDENTS OR THE BUSINESSES. THEY HAD TO, THEY HAD TO EXPLAIN IN DETAIL AND I MEAN, IT WAS DETAILED HOW THEY'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH THAT. AND THEN THEY HAD TO SHOW HOW THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE SYSTEM WORKS INSIDE THEIR COMPANY. AND THEN THEY HAD TO SHOW, OR THE JUDGES HAD TO DECIDE, DID THEY TAKE TOO MANY EXCEPTIONS TO WHAT WE ASK OF THEM. I HAD THE EASY JOB. I HAD THAT 35% JOB. I JUST HAD TO CALCULATE. 'CAUSE THEY HAD A SPECIFIC WAY THEY HAD TO FILL EVERYTHING OUT. I, EVERYTHING'S MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF HOMES AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. EASY JOBS, JUST A COMPUTER JOB. SO I'M SITTING AT THE BOTTOM AND THEN WE NARROWED IT DOWN IN THE FUNNEL. THEN WE FINALLY GOT PEOPLE IN AND WE WERE GONNA INTERVIEW. AND IN, THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER REALLY MET THE ROAD IS WHEN, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHO YOU HAD IN THERE, BUT WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE. SO LET'S REVIEW. WRITTEN EVALUATION WAS WORTH 65 POINTS. JUST SO YOU KNOW, NOBODY EVER GETS 65 POINTS. OKAY? IT, IT WAS THREE POINTS FOR IT MEETS THE CRITERIA. FOUR POINTS. WOW. SOMETHING REALLY STRUCK ME. FIVE WOULD BE OUT OF THE PARK, OUT OF THE PARK WOULD BE THE NATIONAL COMPANIES AND THEIR FINANCIAL CAPABILITY, ABSOLUTELY OUT OF THE PARK. BUT THAT'S JUST ONE ITEM. SO NOBODY EVER GETS 65. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S IN THIS RANGE THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE. SO YOUR CURRENT VENDOR CAME IN WITH A 43 POINT JUDGES SCORE FOR THE WRITTEN PART. FRONTIER WASTE CAME IN WITH A 46, THE PRICE PART, NOW THE PRICING IS ALL OF THE PRICES ADDED TOGETHER. HOUSES, DUMPSTERS, ROLL OFFS, 32 TO 34. AND THEN THEY CAME IN FOR THE INTERVIEW. AND THE INTERVIEW WAS BASED ON COMMUNICATIONS, DEMONSTRATING HOW THEY WERE GOING TO HANDLE, WHAT, WHAT IS TOLD THEM, HOW THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT, AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA GET IT BACK OVER HERE TO THE CITY. IT WAS ON THE OPERATIONAL PIECE AND IT WAS ON THE TRANSITION PIECE. AND WHAT WAS THE COMFORT OF THE JUDGES? TOTAL SCORES WERE 85 AND A HALF AND 94. SO IT BECAME JUST A REGULAR BASKETBALL GAME AT THAT POINT. FRONTIER WAS THE WINNER. SO THIS IS WHAT IS BEHIND ALL YOUR, ALL YOUR EMAILS. UH, ANYWAY, YOU GO, YOU'RE IN A BETTER SHAPE THAN YOU ARE RIGHT NOW ANY WAY YOU GO. BUT, UH, THE JUDGING GROUP PICKED OPTION TWO, WHICH IS MOVING THAT TWO TIME A WEEK BACK TO ONE TIME A WEEK. BUT EVEN YOU'RE TWO TIME A WEEK FROM FRONTIER IS REMEMBER YOU WERE AT 28 IN A PIECE [01:25:01] RIGHT NOW. SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A SAVINGS THERE. UH, IF YOU WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, WHICH SHOULD BE, I HAVE TO ADMIT, PRETTY COURAGEOUS FOR Y'ALL. BUT, UH, UH, BUT THAT, I JUST, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THAT'S NOT AN ODD SERVICE. THE ONE ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, ONCE A WEEK GARBAGE EVERY OTHER WEEK, RECYCLING ONE AND ONE TIME A WEEK ON BRACE. THAT'S ACTUALLY COMMON. THAT IS, THAT, THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON VOTE I GET ON STUFF I WRITE. BUT MOST OF EVERY, MOST EVERY COUNCIL HAS THESE FOUR TANKS. SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE. YOU CAN TAKE WHAT THE JUDGE'S GROUP RECOMMENDED. IT'S A GREAT ONE. UH, IF YOU'LL JUST, I'M GOING TO QUIT TALKING UNDER EFFICIENCY MS. I'M GOING TO, UH, JUST PUT IN MY 2 CENTS WORTH ABOUT WHY NUMBER TWO IS A PRETTY GOOD, UH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT DECISION. THAT'S THE JUDGE'S DECISION, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHY I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD ONE. UH, YOU HAVE OUT OF YOUR 5,839 HOMES, SOME PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE LARGE FAMILIES. I ALWAYS CALL IT THE FOOTBALL FAMILY. YOU GOT SOME PEOPLE IN THERE THAT ARE PUTTING AWAY THE FOOD AND THEY GOT EXTRA TRASH TOO MUCH. SO MAYBE FOR THE PINK TAG, TOO MUCH SO FOR THAT PROBABLY. BUT WHILE ALL THOSE JUST KIDS, WHILE ALL THOSE KIDS ARE IN THERE GROWING UP, YOU CAN GET THAT FAMILY. IF YOU CHOSE TO GO WITH OPTION TWO, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GO ONCE A WEEK, THEY CAN GET A SECOND CART FOR 10 BUCKS. AND SO IF YOU SHOW THAT $20 AND 80 CENTS, REMEMBER YOU'RE 28 IN A PIECE RIGHT NOW. SO THAT HOUSE BASICALLY COULD BE RIGHT AT 30 BUCKS FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THOSE KIDS ARE STILL IN THAT HOUSE. NOW, WHEN THEY MOVE OUT, IF THEY EVER DO, IF WHEN THOSE KIDS MOVE OUT, YOU CAN SH YOU CAN SHIFT BACK. I CAN, Y'ALL KNOW THAT JUST A HUSBAND AND WIFE, UH, CANNOT IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES GENERATE ENOUGH GARBAGE FOR A 96 GALLON CART TO BE FILLED UP TWO TIMES IN A WEEK. YOU, YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE A RECYCLING CONTAINER. SO, UH, BUT THAT'S NOT MY DECISION. I'M JUST GIVING YOU, UH, MY OPINION. Y'ALL HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT DON'T BE CASTING THAT AS A BAD DECISION BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EXPENSIVE OPTION TO, TO HAVE THE ONCE A WEEK SERVICE WITH THE EXTRA CART. WITH THAT, I THINK, I THINK I'M THROUGH AND NOW IT GOES TO YOU. SO HOW DO YOU WANT GO FROM HERE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. VERY EFFICIENT. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. YOU GAVE SOME, YOU GAVE US SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION HERE AND NOW I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE, UH, COUNCIL TO MAKE, UH, SOME DISCUSSION AND UH, MAYBE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. UM, APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO IN THE REST OF THE WORLD. BUT WE'RE IN UNIVERSAL CITY AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OUR CITIZENS WANT. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. WELL, I HAD MR. V I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY MR. VI HAD A QUESTION ON THE BOLT SERVICE. YOU CAN CLARIFY. SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD QUALIFY? SO WE, I THINK WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT LIKE, WHAT IF I HAD AN EXTRA BAG THAT DIDN'T FIT IN MY ONCE A WEEK TRASH CAN, CAN I PUT THAT OUT THERE? OR DOES IT NEED TO BE PARTICULAR KINDS OF TRASH? OKAY. HOUSEHOLD TRASH IS NOT BULK. BULK IS, OH, I GOT A NEW COUCH AND I WANT TO GET RID OF MY OLD ONE, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA PAY 50 BUCKS TO HAVE THEM HAUL IT OFF. SO IF IT CAN BE EASILY LIFTED, UH, AND SET OUT THERE BY YOU, IT CAN PROBABLY BE PICKED UP BY THE TRASH MAN. SO YOU COULD PUT YOUR COUCH OUT NOW, YOU COULD PUT OUT YOUR BLENDER SO IT DOESN'T TAKE UP SPACE IN YOUR TRASH CAN. UM, ITEMS OF THAT NATURE. HOUSEHOLD ITEMS, GARAGE ITEMS, PREFERABLY NOT CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL, NOT PAINT, NOT CHEMICALS. NOT A WHOLE REFRIGERATOR FOR SURE. 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT PICKED UP BY ONE PERSON, BUT ITEMS THAT ARE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD THAT YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THAT DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD WASTE. REMEMBER HOUSEHOLD WASTE IS BATHROOM TISSUE AND FOOD ITEMS, MAYBE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU GENERATE AS PEOPLE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GENERATING A REFRIGERATOR, YOU'RE NOT GENERATING A COUCH. THOSE ARE HOUSEHOLD ITEMS THAT'S BULK. SO WHAT ABOUT LIKE THE BAGS OF LEAVES? SO BULK AND BRUSH IS CONSIDERED, UM, BRUSH WE HAVE LEAVES NOW. AND OF COURSE DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT, A LOT OF LEAVES MORE THAN ONCE, BUT YOU CAN PUT THEM OUT AND THEY'LL COME BY AND PICK UP YOUR FOUR YARDS, WHICH AS HE SAID, IF YOU, IT'S TWO REFRIGERATORS [01:30:01] AT THIS POINT OF LEAVES, THAT'S A LOT OF LEAVES AND YOU CAN GET 'EM PICKED UP. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET YOUR PINK TAGS FOR YOUR LEAVES, WHICH RIGHT NOW YOU DO. I KNOW THAT, UM, THIS PAST WEEK WE HAVE SOLD A LOT OF PINK TAGS JUST FOR BAGS OF LEAVES. OKAY. SO WHAT I HEARD WAS I CAN TAKE MY HOUSEHOLD TRASH AND JUST WRITE LEAVES ON THE BAG AND THEN THEY'LL PICK IT UP , RIGHT? OKAY. IF YOUR CONSCIENCE ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT. YES. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION FROM OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR ON LIKE THE USAGE OF THE TWICE A WEEK GARBAGE? SO WE ASKED, NOT JUST OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR, BUT THE ONE WE'RE SUGGESTING SEVERAL OF THE SAME QUESTIONS DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. AND ONE OF THEM WAS IF WE, UM, FOR OUR CURRENT IS, WAS HOW MANY OF THE RESIDENCES IN UNIVERSAL CITY TRULY NEED TO HAVE TWICE A WEEK PICKUP? THEIR RESPONSE WAS THAT 95% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN UNIVERSAL CITY ARE OVERSERVED. SO WHAT THEY MEAN BY OVERSERVED, THEY KNOW THAT BASED ON THE SIZE OF YOUR TRASH CAN AND HOW MUCH IT GETS PICKED UP AND HOW MUCH THAT YOU PUT IT OUT, THAT YOU'RE REALLY NOT USING IT EVER TO YOUR FULLEST CAPACITY. THAT'S 95% ON AVERAGE, 85% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS ONLY NEED TRASH PICKUP ONCE A WEEK WITH THEIR 96 GALLON CAN. AND THAT IS FOR A RELATIVELY LARGE FAMILY. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR. MAYOR? THANK YOU MR. BEAR. SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE ONCE A WEEK PICKUP. UM, I THINK I SAW IN THERE SOMETHING ABOUT WE WERE GONNA BE SHOOTING FOR SAME DAY. IF WE DID IT ONE, WE DID IT ONCE A WEEK, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR TRASH, YOUR RECYCLING, AND BULK PICKED UP AT THE SAME TRIP. YES. BECAUSE WE KNOW CURRENTLY, UM, FOR MOST PEOPLE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE, YOUR TWO TRASH DAYS HAPPEN ON DIFFERENT DAYS AND YOUR RECYCLING HAPPENS ON A DIFFERENT DAY. AND SO YOU'RE TAKING YOUR TRASH CANS OUT THREE TIMES A WEEK. MM-HMM . AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION WE GOT FROM THE CITY OF SHIRTS. AND SO ONE OF THEIR REQUESTS IS THAT IF THEY WENT TO ONCE A WEEK TRASH, ONCE A WEEK RECYCLING AND THEN THE ONCE A WEEK BULK BRUSH PICKUP, COULD IT BE DONE ON THE SAME DAY? AND SO THAT IS THE QUESTION THAT WE ASK THESE VENDORS. IF WE HAD ALL THREE, COULD YOU DO IT ON THE SAME DAY? AND THE ANSWER WAS YES. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE FELT THAT WAS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF MOVEMENT WITHIN, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS DURING THE WEEK. AND SO FOR THOSE WHO HAVE IT THREE TIMES A WEEK, THE TRASH TRUCK COMING THROUGH, AND THEN MAYBE A FOURTH TIME, IF IT'S YOUR TURN TO GET YOUR BULKER BRUSH PICKUP, THAT'S A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC AND IT'S A CONVENIENCE FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND I CANNOT BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES WE GET THE CALL THAT SAYS, LOOK, MY HOUSE IS ON THE MARKET, OR I'M GETTING READY TO PUT IT ON THE MARKET AND OUR BRUSH PICKUP ISN'T UNTIL A MONTH FROM NOW AND MY NEIGHBORS ALREADY HAVE IT OUT. CAN YOU MAKE 'EM PICK IT UP? NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO. BUT THAT HAPPENS A LOT. OR YOU GET SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN, UM, MAYBE EVICTED FROM THEIR HOME OR THERE'S BEEN A A STATE SALE AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE GETTING RID OF, IT ALL GETS DRAGGED TO THE CURB. SO BY HAVING THAT ONCE A WEEK AND EVERYTHING HAPPENING WITH THE RECYCLE, THE TRASH AND THE BRUSH ALL GETTING PICKED UP ON ONE DAY, YOU GET A VERY CLEAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THOSE PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU GO. BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW BRUSH BULK COMPONENT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACCUMULATION IN THEIR FRONT YARDS, IN THEIR SIDE YARDS THAT WE CAN SEE, OR IN THEIR ALLEYS THAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER FROM PREVIOUS TIMES, ONCE THE DUST SETTLES DOWN AND THE NEW SERVICE IS IN PLACE, WE'RE GONNA HIT THOSE PEOPLE VERY HARD TO GET THEIR STUFF OUT AND GET IT TO THE CURB AND TRY TO CLEAN UP AND BEAUTIFY UNIVERSAL CITY. UH, THANK YOU. UM, WILL THAT MEAN THAT WE WILL HAVE THREE TRUCKS GOING THROUGH EACH NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEING PICKED UP THAT DAY? SO THOSE TRUCKS, YES. IT'LL BE THREE TRUCKS ON THE SAME DAY BECAUSE THEY GO TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. UH, ALL THREE OF THEM GO TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE APPROPRIATELY SORTED. OKAY. UM, DOES THAT OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT EXIST WITH THE TWICE A WEEK PICKUP ON THE TRASH? SO WOULD IT BE ONE DAY, IT'S IF, IF YOU DID TWICE A WEEK, UM, GARBAGE ONCE A WEEK, RECYCLING ONCE A WEEK BULK, IT WOULD BE ONE DAY WOULD BE ALL THREE AND THEN THERE'D BE ONE EXTRA GARBAGE PICKUP? YES, WE DID REQUEST THAT. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN NO PICKUPS WOULD HAPPEN ON THE WEEKENDS, CORRECT? NO PICKUPS ON THE WEEKENDS. SO THOSE [01:35:01] OF YOU WHO ARE PUTTING YOUR STUFF OUT ON SATURDAYS, YOU, IT WOULD BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FOR BOTH, UH, TWICE A WEEK AND ONCE A WEEK? YES, SIR. I SAY THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SCHEDULING WOULD BE FOR THE CONTRACTOR. UM, SO A GOOD, A GOOD JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO, TO, UM, COUNCILMAN VAUGHN'S, UH, COMMENT, UH, SORRY, I'M GONNA DO THIS. UM, IF YOU ARE HIDING TRASH AS BRUSH IN A BAG, IT'S GONNA GO TO THE WRONG PLACE. THAT IS TRUE. SO, UH, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE KNOWLEDGE OF SOMEBODY WHO'S PICKING UP THE TRASH WHEN THEY LOOK AT SOMETHING. THEY KNOW, WHEN THEY LOOK AT YOUR LIMBS, WHETHER YOU'VE DONE IT OR YOU'VE HIRED A CONTRACTOR TO DO IT, THEY KNOW WHEN A BAG IS SITTING AT THE CURB. THEY KNOW DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT A TRASH BAG LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT A LEAF BAG LOOKS LIKE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF THE DRIVER SAW SOMEBODY WAS PUTTING OUT THEIR TRASH AS A BULK PICKUP, THAT THE DRIVER'S NOT PICK IT UP. OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED A COUCH, BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO BE SOMETHING PICK UP BY ONE PERSON OR BY TWO PEOPLE. TWO, TWO PEOPLE COME OUT AND, AND GET HELP TO HELP WITH THIS. OKAY. 'CAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME AND, AND I ALSO OWN A PRETTY DECENTLY SIZED PROBABLY SEVEN FOOT COUCH SINCE I'M NOT SMALL. UM, THAT, UH, KIND OF THINK ABOUT THAT, THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY A TWO PERSON JOB. THERE'S NO WAY ONE PERSON'S GONNA MOVE THAT. RIGHT. AND WITH EVERY HOUSEHOLD THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF HYPOTHETICALS, RIGHT? WELL, AT MY HOUSE WE DO IT THIS WAY AND AT, AT MY HOUSE, WE COULD USE A FIVE FOOT COUCH AT YOUR HOUSE. YOU PROBABLY NEED A SEVEN EIGHT FOOT COUCH. THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN FOR ALL OF US, WHETHER IT'S, UH, TRASH OR WHETHER IT'S RECYCLING OR WHETHER IT'S BULK OR BRUSH, THAT'S GONNA BE THE HYPOTHETICALS CAN GO ON FOREVER. IF WE HAVE 5,200 HOMES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 5,200 DIFFERENT SETTINGS. SO AGAIN, THE TRASH COMPANY WILL ACCOMMODATE FOR THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MAYOR, I MEAN, I, SORRY, MS. PAT. SO DOES THIS DO AWAY WITH OUR SPRING AND FALL CLEANUP SINCE WE'RE HAVING THE, THE BULK PICKUPS ALL THE TIME? INITIALLY, NO. OKAY. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO EVENTUALLY MOVE AWAY FROM THOSE. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE THE, UM, BULK AND BRUSH PICKUP EVERY WEEK, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU CAN'T TAKE BRUSH TO THE SPRING CLEAN OR FALL CLEANUP, BUT THE THING WE HEAR MOST OFTEN, ESPECIALLY, UH, IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WORLD, WELL, YES, YOU HAVE IT COMING UP, BUT I HAVE NO WAY TO GET MY STUFF THERE. SO IF THEY CAN'T BRING THEIR TRASH TO US, WE WANNA GO AND GET THEIR TRASH RIGHT, THEIR BULK ITEMS MM-HMM . AND SO ONCE WE GET PEOPLE INTO THE SWING OF IT, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AWAY WITH THE SPRING AND THE FALL CLEANUP. AND THAT WOULD SAVE US QUITE A BIT ON OUR EMPLOYEES AT PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL. RIGHT? NOT ONLY THE USE OF THE YARD, BUT THE ROLL OFFS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE COLLECT A LOT OF ITEMS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED COMBUSTIBLE MM-HMM . AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF SORTING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH ALL OF THE STUFF THAT'S BROUGHT DOWN. AND SO MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN THERE ARE WORKING OVERTIME. AND THAT'S NOT ONLY TO HOLD THOSE CLEANUPS, BUT IT'S TO PREPARE FOR THEM AND THEN TO CLEAN UP AND THEN TO GET RID OF EVERYTHING AFTERWARD. THANK YOU. UM, THE 10 47 FOR THE EXTRA CARD I'M SAYING IS A ONETIME FEE. ACTUALLY, NO, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PAYING NOW. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PAYING NOW, I BELIEVE MONTHLY. AND THE NEW ONE IS 10 BUCKS, $10, 47 CENTS LESS IF YOU WANTED A SECOND CART. OKAY. WHETHER IT'S FOR TRASH OR RECYCLING. GLAD I ASKED THAT QUESTION. UM, OKAY. FOR RIGHT NOW, THAT WAS GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BALD. UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, IT, IT WOULD HAVE, IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE, UH, THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE. THAT IS, IF WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, WE CAN SPEND LESS TIME AND BE MORE EFFICIENT. COUNSEL, I'VE STILL YET TO SEE THE DOCUMENTATION, THE TEXT OF THE RFP. SO, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE GOTTEN IT, BUT I'VE, I'VE NOT SEEN IT YET. SO IT MAKES THE DECISION PROCESS HARDER. BUT LET ME UNDERSTAND, LEMME UNDERSTAND PARTICULARLY THIS, THIS BULK WASTE ISSUES. SO FOUR, UM, ESSENTIALLY FOUR BY FOUR, FOUR CUBIC YARD, FOUR FOUR CUBIC YARDS. THAT'S THIS HIGH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MR. SHELBY. UH, UH, FOUR CUBIC YARDS. I, OKAY. MORE OR LESS. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S HUGE. THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE. HOWEVER, UH, WHENEVER YOU DEFINE BULK AS BEING REFRIGERATOR'S, APPLIANCES IN MR. SHELBY'S COUCH, , THEN I, THEN I FIND AN ISSUE [01:40:01] BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY LUCKY, UH, TYPE THING. UNLESS THERE IS A, A REAL EFFORT TO SAY YOU CAN ONLY PUT IT OUT, UH, THE DAY OF OR WHATEVER WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME. SO THE BULK ISSUE, I THINK IS GREAT TO INCLUDE THE LEAVES IS GREAT, A FANTASTIC IMPROVEMENT, UH, TYPE THING. UM, AND, AND, AND WHEN YOU, I'M LEARNING A TERM, UH, THE TERM IS WHITE GOODS RATHER THAN WHITE TRASH. THAT'S GOOD. . OKAY. UH, SO WHITE GOODS ARE BULK. WOW. WOW. SO BY WHITE GOODS, THAT MEANS, UM, UH, UH, MR. GOLDS BEE'S DRYER GOES OUT AND HE LITERALLY PLACES THAT FOR PICKUP ON, ON OUR, ON OUR, THAT'S, THAT'S AN AMAZING CHANGE. OKAY. THE PINK TAGS I SEE AS, AS PERHAPS GOING AWAY, ALMOST GOING AWAY, UH, TYPE THING IF PARTICULARLY IF THERE WERE TWICE A WEEK PICKUP YEAH. TYPE THING. THERE DOESN'T SEEM, YOU'D BE SURPRISED SOME PEOPLE, AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE A LARGE FAMILY. YEAH. PINK TAGS HAPPEN REALLY A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR. THAT'S THE FAMILY THAT DECIDES TO INVITE EVERY FAMILY AND EVERY PERSON THEY KNOW OVER FOR 4TH OF JULY, UH, THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS. YEAH. AND, UH, FOR, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE CITY, WHEN IT'S LEAF TIME, THEN YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT. OTHER THAN THAT, WE CAN GO LONG PERIODS AND NOT SELL A PINK TAG UNLESS SOMEBODY HAPPENS TO HAVE A BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION. I ALWAYS RECOMMEND TO PEOPLE, AND I KNOW THE UTILITY LADIES DO, UH, I KNOW HOPE YOU GOT YOUR WELCOME PACKAGE THAT YOU ASKED FOR. YES. UM, WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND WHEN THEY FIRST SET UP THEIR ACCOUNT THAT THEY CONSIDER BUYING AT LEAST FIVE PINK TAGS BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GONNA NEED ONE. AND THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS WHEN YOU NEED ONE TO HAVE TO RUN UP HERE AND GET IT. SO WE RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE GET THEM AND HAVE THEM. AND THEN, UM, THE THING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. IF YOU BUY FIVE PINK TAGS, YOU HAVE FIVE YEARS TO USE 'EM UP. SO THEY ARE A BENEFIT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. OKAY. AND ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS IS, IS A CONCERN THAT I'LL DESCRIBE AS EQUITY. AND THAT IS WE HAVE OUR LARGE TRASH USER, OUR LARGE TRASH REQUIRERS FOR SERVICE, AND THEN WE HAVE THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH MINIMAL NEEDS. AND I WAS INITIALLY HOPING WHENEVER, UH, THE CONTEXT WAS PRESENTED AS MENU DRIVEN, IT WOULD BE MENU DRIVEN AT THE CUSTOMER LEVEL. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT POSSIBLE AT, AT, AT THIS, AT THIS TIME. UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE MONTHLY, THE MONTHLY FEE PLUS THE EXTRA CARD OR WHATEVER, IT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENTIAL IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE. GENERALLY, THE RESPONSES I'VE SEEN ARE ALMOST 30 TO ONE FOR, UH, UH, DUAL PICK, UH, UH, TWICE A WEEK, UH, PICK UP, AT LEAST IN THE EMAIL THAT I'VE SEEN. AND, AND I HAVEN'T GOT QUITE AS MANY AS, AS, UH, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I'VE, UH, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF 'EM. AND, AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GREAT. MEDICAL WASTE, AGAIN, WOULD BE MEDICAL WASTE AS FAR AS OUR, UH, PHYSICIAN'S OFFICE AND MEDICAL WASTE AS FAR AS MEANING SYRINGES IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE HOUSEHOLD, THAT WOULD BE COVERED ALSO UNDER THE BASIC, UNDER THE BASIC CHARGE PER MONTH THAT THAT WASN'T MEANT. SO, NO. SO IF, IF, IF A RESIDENT HAS INSULIN SYRINGES OR WHATEVER, THAT WOULD BE A HAZARDOUS PICKUP AND EXTRA. IS THAT, IS THAT THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO GO WITH THE EXTRA DOLLAR AND 10 A MONTH FOR HAZARDOUS HOUSEHOLD WASTE, THOSE WHO HAVE THE MEDICAL, UM, PARAPHERNALIA THAT THEY NEED TO GET RID OF CAN USE THE HAZARDED HOUSEHOLD WASTE FOR THAT. OKAY. AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE CHART? WHAT WOULD BE AN ESTIMATE OF THE CHARGE PER PERSON IF THEY NEEDED TO GET THEIR SYRINGES PICKED UP? UH, ONCE A MONTH, QUARTERLY, WHATEVER TYPE THING. A DOLLAR AND 10 CENTS. SO IT'S JUST, SO THAT'S IT. JUST A DOLLAR AND 10 CENTS. EVERYBODY PAYS A DOLLAR. OH, OH, NO, NO, NO, NO. WHAT WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, UH, UH, IF THERE ISN'T, UH, I CALL, I, I AM THE ONLY ONE ON MY BLOCKS THAT HAS SYRINGES. EVERYBODY'S GONNA PAY THE DOLLAR AND 10 CENTS TO GET THAT PICKED UP. SO, SO, SO, HUH. BUT IT'S NOT JUST FOR MEDICAL WASTE. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER HOW PEOPLE HAVE PAINT THAT THEY NEED TO BE PICKED UP. PULL CHEMICALS, OIL CANS, OIL. RANDY'S NAMING A BUNCH OF STUFF [01:45:01] IN THE BACK. THAT'S WHAT'S YOUR HAZARDOUS HOUSEHOLD WASTE IS FOR, IT'S NOT JUST FOR MEDICAL. OKAY. OKAY. SO, SO CONTINUING THE, THE RANDY SERVICE , IF YOU WILL, THE RANDY SERVICE IS STILL PART OF THE CONTRACT. SO PEOPLE CAN GET RID OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD WASTE AT LEAST TWICE PER YEAR AT THIS POINT IN TIME, OR WE ACCEPT THE EXTRA FOR ALL OUR RESIDENTS A BUCK PLUS INCREASE IN RATE. IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT. SO EVERYBODY ALREADY HAS CURRENTLY AT THIS TIME, EVERY HOUSEHOLD HAS HAZARDOUS HOUSEHOLD WASTE UNDER OUR CURRENT CONTRACT. WE'RE JUST RECOMMENDING THAT YOU EXTEND IT INTO THE NEW CONTRACT. AND HERE'S WHAT THE PRICE IS. A DOLLAR 10, IS IT? PARDON? OF IS IT PART OF THAT, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? NO PART OF THAT. IT'S PLUS ONE 10. SO IT BE 2190. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. PUT. OKAY. THANK, THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. THE OTHER WAY, OBVIOUSLY TO, UH, TO ESSENTIALLY BENEFIT, UH, THE RESIDENT AS FAR AS COST WISE IS, AND I'M GONNA BRING, UH, UP MR. VAUGHN'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO STRONGLY LOOK AT THE FRANCHISE, UH, AMOUNT, UH, TYPE THING. UH, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, 10%, UH, IS, IS UH, UH, WELL ABOVE, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION FEE FOR THE SERVICE. AND BASICALLY, UH, ALTERNATIVELY, UH, THE FRANCHISE FEES ARE ESSENTIALLY FOR MAINTAINING INFRASTRUCTURE THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT AS DEFINED. SO MINIMALLY, PERHAPS WE CAN GIVE THE RESIDENTS A BENEFIT BY TARGETING THE FRANCHISE FEE TO INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR TO, UH, GET RANDY'S PEOPLE ON THE, ON, ON MORE ROADS. OKAY? THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR A VOTE THIS EVENING. NO, YOU THANK YOU, GOBY. AH, THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, SO, UM, THEY'LL PICK UP THE LEAVES, RIGHT? DO THEY HAVE TO BE BAGGED OR CAN I JUST PUSH 'EM ALL DOWN THERE BY THE STREET? BAG IT, BAG IT. DANG IT. OKAY. CANS ARE GONNA STAY THE SAME SIZE. YES SIR. UM, WHAT IF THEY THOUGHT THEY PICKED UP MY TRASH, BUT THEY DIDN'T AND THEY MISSED, WHO DO I CALL CAME TO THEM? SO I HOPE SOMEBODY DIDN'T SAY MY NAME. . BILLY DID. THEY SAID HIM OR THEM, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO CURRENTLY UNDER OUR CURRENT CONTRACT, IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND YOU CALLED THE VENDOR, THEY WOULD SAY, OH, I'M SORRY, UH, THE CITY BILLS, YOU NEED TO CALL THE CITY. AND THEN THEY CALL THE UTILITY OFFICE. IN THE NEW CONTRACT, WE WERE VERY EXPLICIT THAT IF A CUSTOMER'S TRASH DID NOT GET PICKED UP, THEY WERE NOT CALLING THE CITY. THEY WERE CALLING THE VENDORS' CUSTOMER SERVICE. AND OF COURSE, WE WANT THEM TO BE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IF THEY ARE, AND THEY CAN TAKE THAT CALL EARLY ENOUGH, THEY CAN TURN AROUND WHILE THEY'RE STILL IN THE CITY ON THAT DAY AND GET IT PICKED UP. SO EVERYBODY WILL BE CALLING A CUSTOMER SERVICE NUMBER. THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT WE WERE VERY, UH, EXPLICIT ABOUT, AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE, IT'S A GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE AN APP WHERE THE CUSTOMER CAN HAVE IT ON THEIR PHONE OR THEIR COMPUTER AND THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE TRASH TRUCK IS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND OR IF IT DIDN'T GET, UH, PUT IN, THEY CAN SEND THE MESSAGE IN THROUGH THE APP, THEY'LL GET A TICKET NUMBER AND THEN THEY SHOULD GET A RESPONSE TO TELL 'EM WHEN THEIR TRASH IS GONNA BE PICKED UP. INSTANT COMMUNICATION. I LIKE THAT. OKAY. UM, IF I HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA PINK TAGS, CAN I GET MY REFUND ? WELL, YOU HAVE TILL NOW BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST 1ST TO GET THEM USED UP BEFORE AUGUST 1ST. OKAY. SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TRANSFER THE NEW COMPANY, BUT IF YOU LIKE, THEY'RE SPECIFIC ON THEIR PINK TAGS. REALLY, GUYS, WE ARE SPECIFIC ON THE PINK TAG. OKAY? UM, BUT IF YOU WANNA BRING 'EM IN, I'M SURE WE CAN AUCTION THEM OFF FOR YOU. I LIKE IT. UM, THE , THE HOURS RIGHT NOW IT SAYS 7:00 AM AND WHEN I SEE THAT FELLOW DRIVE DOWN MY, DOWN MY STREET AT 6 55, I GO STAND IN FRONT OF HIM. WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE, UH, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? SO IT IS 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM OKAY. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY THE SAME. NOW OBVIOUSLY FOR COMMERCIAL IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SATURDAY TRASH. IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, UM, MOST VENDORS WILL REQUEST, ESPECIALLY ON A SATURDAY, IF THE COMMERCIAL IS NOT NEAR A RESIDENTIAL AREA, CAN THEY START AT SIX? AND THE REASON THEY WANT THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOTTA GO HOME AT SOME POINT ON A SATURDAY. AND ONCE THE, UH, FACILITY TO DUMP YOUR TRASH CLOSES DOWN, YOU GOTTA GET THERE BEFORE [01:50:01] THEY CLOSE. THEY CAN'T KEEP A TRASH TRUCK FULL OF TRASH OVER THE WEEKEND. THEY HAVE TO DISPOSE OF IT. SO THEY LIKE TO START EARLY. BUT IF YOU CALL ME, BECAUSE THEY CAME BY AT 6 55, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS DID THEY PICK UP YOUR TRASH? AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN THEY'RE NOT REALLY WORKING. THEY'RE JUST DRIVING AROUND. YEAH. UH, NO, I, I, I'M ON ONE OF THOSE FEEDER STREETS, SO I TRY TO PAY ATTENTION. THANK YOU. UM, THE, UH, WHAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS THE COMMERCIAL PRICING. YES, SIR. UM, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF HOMEOWNER PRICING. IT'S NOT JUST A BUNCH OF HOMEOWNERS. THERE'S A BUNCH OF COMMERCIALS. UM, SO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT? I WANNA TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL PRICING. OKAY. SO WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT EXTENSIVELY AMONGST THE GROUP BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND AS YOU WOULD SEE IN THE RATES, THAT SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL RATES WILL GO UP. AND THE QUESTION IS, IS, YOU KNOW, UM, WHY ARE WE NOT KICKING AND SCREAMING ABOUT THAT? AND BECAUSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE ROOM THAT I KNOW, COMMERCIAL PEOPLE DON'T TALK TO US ABOUT THEIR TRASH. THE ONES THAT REALLY WANNA TALK TO THE STAFF AND TO THE COUNCIL AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR PICKUP IS THE RESIDENTIAL. SO WHILE YOU MAY HAVE 300 BUSINESSES, YOU HAVE 21,000 RESIDENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE HAPPY, WE FOCUS, BUT PART OF KEEPING THEM HAPPY IS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A BUSINESS GROUP THAT IS HERE FOR RETAIL TAX SALES. SO IT IS, IT'S A, IT'S A CYCLE. YES, SIR. I AGREE WITH YOU. AND THERE IS A NOMINAL INCREASE IN THE COMMERCIAL RACE. NOW HE WON'T FEEL IT. YOU, HE SAYS YOU WON'T FEEL IT. YOU MAY FEEL IT. IF YOU'RE A REAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT YOUR BILL, YOU, YOU MAY FEEL IT, BUT IF YOU'RE THE BIGGER CORPORATIONS AND THE RETAIL THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, TWO OR FOUR YARD PICKUP TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK, YOU'RE NOT GONNA NOTICE IT. OKAY. UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CAPABILITIES OF A SMALLER GROUP, SUCH AS FRONTIER, THAT, THAT IF THERE IS A HICCUP, IF THERE IS A WHATEVER REASON, THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A HARDER TIME GETTING TO US THE NEXT DAY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. HE CAN. HE WANTS TO ADDRESS IT. YEAH, GO AHEAD. UM, IT'S NOT A SMALL COMPANY. FIRST OFF, COMPARED TO WASTE MANAGEMENT, THERE'S NOTHING TO COMPARE TO WASTE MANAGEMENT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT WHEN IT REGARDS CITIES, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. MY OLD EMPLOYER IS NOT AS AGGRESSIVE AS YOU COULD SEE IN THE PRICING HERE. THEY'RE NOT AS AGGRESSIVE. THIS COMPANY, UH, I MISSPOKE LAST TIME I WAS HERE AND I SAID, Y'ALL ARE MY 37TH CUSTOMER. YOU'RE MY 27TH CUSTOMER. I'M SORRY. BUT OUT OF THAT 27, UH, QUITE A SIZABLE PERCENTAGE, THIS AGGRESSIVE GROUP HAS WON. NOW FOR HERE, WE DIDN'T GET INTO THIS THING. 'CAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS ALL NEW TRUCKS AS WELL AS ALL NEW EQUIPMENT GONNA BE SERVICED BY THE TRUCKS. AND THAT IS A DEMONSTRATION OF COMMITMENT. WE GAVE THEM GRACE THAT THEY COULD HAVE BEEN UP TO FOUR YEARS OF AGE AND WE'D ACCEPT IT. NOTHING OLDER THAN THAT TO START THIS JOB. NOTHING OLDER THAN 10 YEARS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING. WE DON'T WANT ANY RAGS RUNNING THROUGH HERE. LEAKING. THESE GUYS WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE BRAND NEW. EVERY CONTAINER TRUCK, EVERY LIFTING TRUCK, EVERY ROLL-OFF TRUCK, IT'S A QUITE A CAPITAL PIECE. THESE ARE NOT SMALL POTATO PEOPLE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE IMPACT THEY'VE HAD ON THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. AND MATTER OF FACT, THEY HAD TO DEMONSTRATE WITHIN THE, UH, BACK THAT JUDGING PIECE. THEY HAD TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT THEY'VE GOT FOR A RESUME. AND IT, UH, IT'S AWESOME JUST BECAUSE THE, THE PHONE CALLS THAT I'VE MADE, THE, THE THINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED UP, NOBODY'S HAPPY. WELL, THE EMAILS I GOT, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THEIR CURRENT SERVICE AND, AND WASTE MANAGEMENT. AND I HEAR, I GET EMAILS THAT SAY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, FRONTIER HAS X, Y, AND Z ISSUES. AND THEN, BUT I, I'M, I'M NOT SURE 'CAUSE I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, WITH EVERYBODY. SO I, I DON'T, I I HAVEN'T, I DON'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH FRONTIER. THERE'S NO PERFECT COMPANY. OKAY. BUT I HAVE, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, I TRY TO GO BACK AND CONTACT CITY MANAGERS WHERE I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO SERVE OVER OUR LAST SEVEN YEARS. UH, THEY'RE NOT ALL WON BY THIS COMPANY. THERE'S A OTHER SHIRTS AND SLO WERE SPLIT REPUBLIC LEFT ONE, WENT TO FRONTIER ONE WENT TO WASTE CONNECTIONS. THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT IS. SO, BUT I CHECKED BACK WITH THESE CITY MANAGERS, WELL, DID WE MAKE A GOOD DECISION? DID, WAS THE COUNCIL HAPPY A YEAR OR TWO LATER? AND I MUST TELL YOU THAT [01:55:01] ANYONE WHERE I'VE CALLED WITH THIS COMPANY, I HAVE NOT HAD A BAD REFERENCE YET. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. YEAH. NOT ME. HOPEFULLY I'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. YOU DID ON THAT ONE. MY LAST ONE IS, THE CURRENT CONTRACT SAYS THAT THEY CAN GO UP BASED ON THE, THE, THE EVERY YEAR WE CAN INCREASE WHAT WE PAY THEM IS THIS CURRENT CONTRACT, RIGHT? SO WE HAD THIS SAME, UH, THIS AND EVERYBODY'S APPLES METHODOLOGY WHERE THEY USED THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT AND THE CPI ADJUSTMENT. AND IT WAS SOME COMPLICATED, UH, PROCESS THEY WENT THROUGH. UH, THANKFULLY, UH, LYNN KNEW HOW THAT WORKED AND SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT ANYMORE. SO WE SAT WITHIN THE CONTRACT, A BASE RATE OR PERCENTAGE THAT THEY COULD GO UP ANNUALLY. MAXIMUM. MAXIMUM. AND IT'S 3%. OKAY. YEAH. EXCELLENT. WELL DONE. THANK YOU. AND THE, AND WITHIN THE BUREAU LABOR STATISTICS, THE REGISTER THAT'S USED, THE FEDERAL REGISTER THAT'S USED IS ONLY FOR GARBAGE COMPANIES. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CONSUMERS. 'CAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EXPENSES FOR A GARBAGE COMPANY. SO THAT OLD METHODOLOGY, AS SHE SAID, IT'S VERY COMPLEX AND UH, THE GOVERNMENT OFFERS ONE THAT'S VERY SIMPLE, JUST A GARBAGE AND TRASH INDEX. YOU LOOK IT UP, THE MAXIMUM SHE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THEY CAN'T GO BEYOND A POINT, BUT THEY MAY BE LESS THAN THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS. HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. Y'ALL DID GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR . THANK YOU. UM, I THINK WE ALL UP HERE UNDERSTAND THAT TRASH IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO OUR COMMUNITY. UM, WHEN WE MADE CHANGES TO OUR CONTRACT LAST, LAST FIVE YEARS AGO, AND WE TOOK OUT ALI SERVICE, I STILL HAVE PEOPLE TALK TO ME ABOUT WANTING ALI SERVICE BACK. I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER GONNA STOP, BUT, UM, SO I'M DEFINITELY SENSITIVE TO MAKING CHANGES AND BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT WE MAKE. UM, THE EMAILS THAT I GOT REALLY TALKED ABOUT LIKING THE TWO TIMES A WEEK, THE ONCE EVERY WEEK. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF HERE. I SHARE THE CONCERNS WITH A COUPLE PEOPLE'S COMMENT ABOUT THE SMELL AND THE BUGS WITH THE HEAT AND HA GOING TO THE ONCE A WEEK. I MEAN, I DO THINK THAT THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM IN SUMMER MONTHS WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE DISGUSTED BY THEIR TRASH CANS. AND SOME PEOPLE PUT THEM BY THEIR FRONT DOOR, SOME, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT HIDDEN IN THE BACK ALLEY ANYMORE. THEY'RE PEOPLE ARE WALKING BY THEM, THEY'RE STORING THEM IN THE GARAGE. SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT. UM, I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE HAZARDOUS FUNCTION STILL BEING AVAILABLE. UM, I WILL SAY I WENT OUT AND DID SOME RESEARCH TODAY ON REVIEWS FOR BOTH COMPANIES, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE ALL SEEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS ON FRONTIER IN SHIRTS. I MEAN, THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME TRANSITIONING TO THAT CHANGE. AND I THINK PART OF IT IS THE ROOFS, UM, THE ROUTE SIZE GOING TO THE ONCE A WEEK TRASH TO PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T. AND THEY'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAYBE A POOR COMMUNICATION PLAN WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WHATEVER WE CHANGE, WE NEED TO DEFINITELY BE AWARE OF A COMMUNICATION PLAN, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THE INFORMATION OUT AND EVALUATING ROUTE SIZE IF, IF PEOPLE ARE CONSISTENTLY GETTING MISSED, IF STREETS ARE GETTING MISSED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE ADJUST THAT. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CONSTANTLY BE, WHATEVER WE DO HERE, BE EVALUATING THE CHANGES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WORKING FOR THE RESIDENTS. BECAUSE BOTTOM LINE, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. I'LL, UH, UH, ONE, ONE FURTHER QUESTION HAS TO DEAL WITH, CAN, UH, CAN THE EXTENSION OF CONTRACT, AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING, WE'RE DEALING WITHOUT ANY DOCUMENTATION OUR ON OUR END. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF CONTRACTS AFTER FIVE YEARS? WHAT CAN YOU, THERE SEEMS TO BE TWO EXTENSIONS. I I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT. COUNSEL HAS THE ABILITY TO EXERCISE THE EXTENSIONS. COUNSEL HAS THE ABILITY TO EXERCISE THE EXTENSIONS. OKAY. SHOULD YOU CHOOSE BOTH, BOTH EXTENSIONS, THERE ARE TWO EXTENSIONS. ONE FOR TWO YEARS AND ANOTHER ONE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS. YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THEM SEPARATELY. OKAY. OKAY. CAN I ADDRESS THE RRFP? I KNOW IT'S HAPPENED IN NOVEMBER OF 2025, BUT THIS GENTLEMAN CAME AND SPENT MORE THAN AN HOUR WITH YOU GOING OVER THE RFP AND THE ITEMS THAT WERE GOING TO BE IN IT. IT'S BEEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE SINCE, I DON'T KNOW, MARIBEL, WHEN WE POST IT DECEMBER. SO IT'S OUT THERE FOR ANYONE TO READ. IT'S ON THE RFP PAGE OF THE CITY'S WEBSITE. UH, THERE WAS NO NOTE, THERE WAS NOTIFICATION THAT TO ANY, TO ME ANYHOW. SO JUST F YIS, IT'S A COMMUNICATION ISSUE. UH, UH, PERHAPS SO, UH, UH, VERY GOOD. I I WANT TO COMPLIMENT, UH, THE, UH, CHANGES, UH, PARTICULARLY AWAY FROM, UM, UH, SOLE SOURCE JUSTIFIED AS IT WAS IN THE PAST [02:00:01] TO AN OPENED IT PROCESS. I, I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT. VERY, VERY FORWARD PROGRESS FOR OUR CITY AND TO THE BENEFIT OF OUR RESIDENTS. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. I'M A I'M GONNA WRAP THIS UP FOR EVERYONE NOW. I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK. UM, SINCE JANUARY WE'VE KNOWN THAT WE'RE GONNA BE RENEGOTIATING A NEW TRASH CONTRACT, WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT. I, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I AM ALL OVER THE CITY. I WALK A LOT, I MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE BOTH IN TOWN AND OUTTA TOWN. AND I DO BRING UP THE SUBJECT ABOUT WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN ABOUT WASTE MANAGEMENT. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'M VERY, VERY SURPRISED AT THE NUMBERS OF EMAILS THAT I GOT VERSUS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE GOT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. IT'S AMAZING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE WHEN WE, EVERYBODY WANTS A ROAD REPAIR UNTIL YOU CAN START WORKING AND THEN EVERYBODY IS REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT IT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOT OUTTA PLACE. I'VE HAD AT LEAST 10, MAYBE 15 PEOPLE IN THE LAST SIX, OR EXCUSE ME, IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, THEY'VE COME UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANT ONCE A ONCE ONE WEEK, ONE, ONE PICKUP A WEEK. THAT'S WHAT I WANT AND I CAN, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, YEAH. I'VE HAD PROBABLY 10 OR 11 FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE PERSONS TELL ME THAT THEY LIKE TWICE A WEEK. AND THIS IS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK. UM, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A SITUATION OF WHAT THE CUSTOMER, OUR CITIZENS NEED. NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS TWO CAR GARAGE . NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS A 7,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME. HOWEVER, THIS IS AN IDEA. AND THE ESSENCE OF, ESSENCE OF GARBAGE AFTER TWO DAYS IN THE TEXAS SUN, AND YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE TEXAS SUN, IT CAN JUST BE 70 DEGREES OUT THERE. IT STARTS SMELLING AFTER THREE DAYS. THEIR CONCERN IS THEY DO NOT WANNA SMELL GARBAGE AROUND THEIR HOUSES, AND THEY WANT THE TWO DAY PICKUP. AND IT'S BEING OFFERED NOW AT A REDUCED RATE OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW. SO IT'S LIKE A WIN-WIN SITUATION. PLUS WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER OPTIONS THERE. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN VOTE AND MAKE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE HAPPY. AND I AM GONNA QUOTE ONE SURVEY THAT A LADY TOOK, I DON'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS, HER NAME, LAST NAME WAS JOHNS, IF I'M REMEMBER CORRECTLY. AND SHE ASKED, SHE DID A, DID A OVERVIEW OF THE SERVICES BEING OFFERED NOW AND ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER ONE WEEK OR TWO A WEEK? AND I READ THAT REPORT THIS MORNING THAT HER SURVEY AND HER JUDGING FROM, I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY WERE, I DIDN'T WHAT I JUST LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS. SHE HAD 107 PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED. AND OUT OF 107 PEOPLE, 93% OF THEM SAID, LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. THEY WANT TO A WEEK. SO I AM THINKING THAT WE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY, LIKE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WE TOOK 30% OF OUR VOTER, OF OUR CITIZENS AND TOOK THEIR ALLEYS PICKUP AWAY. DID WE LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT? YES, WE DID. I'M ONE OF 'EM. I KNOW THERE'S QUITE A FEW FOLKS HAVE ASKED ME THIS LAST, IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, ARE WE GONNA COME BACK? MR. VAL HAS ASKED ME FIVE TIMES THE COUNCIL, AM I GONNA TAKE THE ACTION TO TRY TO GET 'EM BACK IN? NO, IT WAS A GOOD MOVE TO DO IT. I WILL ADMIT THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ONE THAT I LIKE, BUT GOING TO ONCE A WEEK, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD MOVE FOR OUR CITIZENS, FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR CITIZENS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WHAT YOU NEED, IT'S WHAT YOU WANT. AND SOMEBODY SAID, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER MORNING, UH, THE WIND COME IN, THEY WALKED OUTSIDE AND ALL THE ALMOST EMPTY CONTAINERS WERE LAYING ON THEIR SIDES, BUT THE FULL ONES ARE UP. BUT THERE WAS ONLY TWO OR THREE FULL ONES, BUT THE OTHERS WERE ALMOST EMPTY. SO THE KEY IS THAT THEY PUT 'EM OUT THOUGH BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO, TWO PICKUPS. SO LET'S TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION AND I WILL CLOSE THIS OUT AND GO FOR DECISION OF WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR OR MOVE FORWARD WITH. ANY SUGGESTIONS? UH, THE FRONTIER AT TWO TIMES A A WEEK FOR GARBAGE. ONE TIME A WEEK FOR RECYCLING. ONE TIME A WEEK FOR BRUSH BULK AND THAT MEDICAL WASTE THING. HAZARD. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S THE ONE. SO AT 26, 26, 75 PLUS THE DOLLAR 10, THAT'S A DOLLAR 10 FOR 27 85. UH, AND THIS IS WHERE YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADED. I GOT ONE MORE THING TO SAY, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE SECOND NOW. OKAY. DO YOU, IS THAT A MOTION? YES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FOR MR. BERNARD. [02:05:02] ANY DISCUSSION? YES, SIR. I'LL GO AFTER HIM. OKAY. SO, UH, BASICALLY, UH, I DON'T, I I, I GET, I GOT FRUSTRATED AT SOME PEOPLE WHENEVER WE WERE ON ANOTHER ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES. AND AS THE COMMITTEE, WE MADE A, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN WHENEVER IT CAME UP HERE, IT'S LIKE, WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS? BUT THIS ONE IS, THAT COMMITTEE WAS, IT WAS MORE BROAD SCOPE. IT WAS A BIG BRUSH. THIS ONE IS VERY PERSONAL TO EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY IS EXTREMELY VESTED IN THEIR TRASH. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I COULD NOT CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE THIS IDEA OF A ONCE A WEEK TRASH WITH THE BRUSH PICKUP, BECAUSE A LOT OF MY FILLS UP WITH THE BRUSH. BUT IT, IT DIDN'T MATTER. THEY WERE ADAMANT TO HAVE THE TWO TIMES A WEEK. WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE AROMAS AND THE LITTLE CREATURES, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M STARTING TO SEE MIGHT BE WHAT I'M MISSING. UM, AND, AND THAT IS THE BIG SOURCE OF, OF A LOT OF PEOPLE'S FRUSTRATION AND ANXIETY FOR ONLY ONCE A WEEK OR SOMEBODY BEING FORGETFUL ON THEIR SATURDAY MORNING. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO, LET'S WHERE CAN WE CUT? CAN WE CUT HERE? YEAH, BUT DO WE HAVE TO? I I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO AND ESPECIALLY AFTER THE OVERWHELMING, HOWEVER MANY EMAILS WE GOT STATING KEEP MY TWO TIMES. SO THAT'S WHY I'M AT, UH, I'M JUMPING ON THE TWO TIMES A WEEK BANDWAGON. MR. SHELBY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO EARLIER. THE 31 50 DOES NOT INCLUDE THE HAZARDOUS WASTE, UH, PICKUP AND IT ON THE, ON THE UPPER ROW. I WANNA MAKE SURE. SO WE'RE TALKING APPLES TO ORANGES? YES, SIR. YOU'RE TALKING, UH, APPLES TO APPLES. OKAY. SO IT'S, THEY WOULD HAVE, THEY WOULD HAVE 31 50 PLUS AN EXTRA DOLLAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, I GUESS I WANNA BE STATE VERY CLEAR THE SAME WAY. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHERE I'M GONNA BE VOTING AGAINST WHAT I WANT. UM, BECAUSE I'M FINE WITH ONCE A WEEK PICKUP. I'M FINE WITH, UM, WITH ONCE A WEEK RECYCLING. I NEVER FILL MY TRASH CAN UP. IN FACT, I COULD PROBABLY GO TWO WEEKS BEFORE I FILL MY TRASH CAN UP. MY RECYCLING IS AN EVERY WEEK THING. UM, AND I HAVE FOUR PEOPLE LIVING IN MY HOUSE. SO, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT ME. UM, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISC DISCRIMINATION DISCRIMINATION ABOUT THIS IN THAT, UM, I'M AS A, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I'M ABSORBING AN EXTRA, UM, 70 $82 A YEAR SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TWICE A WEEK PICKUP ARE GETTING TWICE A WEEK PICKUP. UM, AND THERE ARE OTHER CITIZENS WHO ARE ABSORBING THAT 80 SOMETHING DOLLARS A YEAR SO THAT CITIZENS OTHER THAN THEM CAN GET THEIR TWICE A WEEK PICKUP. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I'M GIVING YOU A PERSPECTIVE, UM, FROM THE OTHER SIDE, THAT THERE ARE THOSE OF US THAT WOULD RATHER PAY THE $20 AND JUST HAVE ONCE A WEEK PICKUP 'CAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT. UM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GONNA DO IT. AND AS A COMMUNITY, UM, IT'S EASIER TO HAVE THE TWICE A WEEK PICK UP AND, UM, HAVE THAT EXTRA COVERAGE. THAT'S NE NECESSARY AT TIMES FOR SOME OF US AT TIMES, UH, MORE, MORE TIMES THAN NOT FOR ALL OF US, UH, OTHER OF US, EXCUSE ME. SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE MY PERSPECTIVE IS ON THIS. UM, UM, JUST, JUST COMING FROM AN A CITIZEN MYSELF. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, MR. VAUGHN, I THINK YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. YES. UM, I, I'M A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE OVER WEIGHING THE DESIRE TO HAVE THE TWICE A WEEK. I MEAN, I THINK THE, ALL THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE SEEN HAVE BEEN, DO YOU WANT ONCE A WEEK OR DO YOU WANT TWICE A WEEK? WELL, OF COURSE EVERYONE'S GONNA SAY TWICE A WEEK. IT'S A LUXURY. WE LIKE IT. I NEVER USE IT, BUT I LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT EXTRA DAY. SO I'M GONNA SAY YES. WELL, IF ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL WITH NO OTHER INFORMATION, YES, I WANT TWICE A WEEK. AND THAT'S KINDA THE CONVERSATION I THINK WE'VE BEEN HAVING. THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN MISSING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OF THIS INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO ANYBODY TO SAY, IF WE GAVE YOU THIS MATRIX AND SAID, DO YOU WANT ONCE OR TWICE, THEN WE WOULD REALLY HAVE GOOD DATA TO SAY THE PUBLIC WANTS ONCE OR TWICE. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT DATA. I DON'T FEEL, THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT'S MISSING FROM THIS IS I TRIED TO ANSWER EVERYBODY WHO EMAILED ME. THERE WERE A COUPLE THAT I DIDN'T GET TO, BUT I DIDN'T GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE RESPONSE THAT I GAVE, EXCEPT FOR A FEW. AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT CAME BACK TO ME DIDN'T SEEM TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL CART OPTION SO THEY COULD PAY THE $10 AND GET ADDITIONAL CART. AND COUPLE OF THEM ADMITTED THAT THAT WOULD BE A, A WORKABLE SOLUTION FOR THEM. THEN WE ALSO HAD THE PINK TAGS THAT ARE AN OPTION. SO IF WE WENT WITH THE ONCE A WEEK, THERE'S A $6 GAP THERE THAT COULD FUND PART OF THAT EXTRA CART OR SOME ADDITIONAL PINK TAGS IF SOMEBODY GOT INTO TROUBLE AND NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL TRASH TO GET RID OF. AND SO, I MEAN, IF WE WERE REALLY GONNA TRY [02:10:01] TO TAKE A PUBLIC OPINION POLL, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE THEM THIS, HAVE TO REALLY EXPLAIN WHAT IS THE BULK OPTION, WHAT 'CAUSE THAT'S BRAND NEW THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EITHER. AND THEN THE PINK TAG OPTION THAT EVERYONE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF IN THE ADDITIONAL CART OPTION. AND THEN WE WOULD GET A TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT? I, I HAVE A FAMILY OF FOUR, I ONLY NEED ONCE A WEEK. I'M KIND OF IN THE SAME BOSE COUNCIL MEMBER, SHELBY. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. SO THAT'S JUST MY FEEDBACK. THANK YOU MAYOR. MS. BECK. MY HOUSEHOLD MUST BE AWFULLY TRASHY 'CAUSE WE USE A LOT OF TRASH . UM, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE EMAILED ME HAVE VERY DEFINITELY PREFERENCE THE TWICE A WEEK. THEY, MANY OF THEM SAID, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE WOULD BE. UM, SO WE'RE SAVING PROBABLY 22 CENTS IF WE GO WITH, UM, FRONTIER. AND WE'RE GOING UP $4 AND 53 CENTS FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT. A LOT OF THEM ARE CONCERNED WITH THE REPUTATION FRONTIER HAS. UH, I DID A, A CUSTOMER SURVEY, CUSTOMER APPRECIATION, NOT APPRECIATION, BUT SATISFACTION AND EVERYTHING I CAME UP WITH SAID BOTH OF THEM FAILED. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NEITHER, OR I'M LAUGHING KIND OF AT, WHEN WE STARTED WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FIVE YEARS AGO FOR A YEAR, EVERYONE WAS UP IN ARMS AND EVERYONE JUST DESPISED IT. AND NOW EVERYONE WANTS TO KEEP IT. SO THAT'S TELLING ME, GIVE US TIME TO GET USED TO A NEW COMPANY. UH, I DO BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY IS VERY PROACTIVE, AND IF THERE ARE ISSUES, WE'LL GO TO THEM AND SAY FIX IT. BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEED AND WANT. AND I AM HEARING FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANTED, AND FOR A SAVINGS OF 22 CENTS, I'D LIKE TO SEE TWICE A WEEK AND ALL THE OTHER GOODIES THAT COME WITH IT. BUT I DO THINK MAYBE WE CAN SIT ON THIS FOR TWO WEEKS, GET THE INFORMATION OUT AND LET THEM SAY WHAT THEY WANT. NOW THAT WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAT, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I WILL REMIND YOU THAT ON THE CONTRACT, WE ARE ON A TIMELINE AND REMINDING YOU THAT WHOMEVER AND WHATEVER YOU GO WITH, THAT, THE, THE VENDOR HAS A SHORT WINDOW OF TIME OKAY. TO START ORDERING, UH, 12,000 CARTS, FOUR WASTE TRUCKS, HOWEVER MANY RECYCLES AND HOWEVER MANY BRUSH TRUCKS. SO THE MORE TIME YOU TAKE TO MAKE A DECISION, THE HARDER IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THEM TO GET THEIR TRANSITION PLAN IN PLACE AND TO GET THEIR ITEMS PURCHASED. OKAY? AS YOU KNOW, WE WAITED FOUR YEARS TO GET A FIRE TRUCK. WELL, WE'RE STILL WAITING, WE'RE STILL WAITING TO GET TWO FIRE TRUCKS. SO SAME INDUSTRY IN THE TRASH BUSINESS. THERE'S A, A TIMELINE BY WHICH THEY WORK. AND WHEN WE DEVELOPED THIS PROCESS, AND WHEN WE STARTED IN NOVEMBER, WE GAVE YOU THE TIMELINE AND TOLD YOU IT'S VERY TIGHT. I I DON'T WANNA PRESSURE YOU INTO MAKING A DECISION THIS EVENING, BUT PLEASE MAKE A DECISION THIS EVENING. I APPRECIATE THAT. I, I'M GONNA, I WANNA ENCOURAGE THAT. OKAY? BUT I WANNA, I WANT, I WANNA CLARIFY ONE THING HERE. VIRTUALLY EVERY PERSON I'VE TALKED TO OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN GET A SEPARATE SECOND, UH, CONTAINER. UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT OFFERED IT. UH, IT'S BEEN OFFERED ALL ALONG. THE SITUATION IS NOT THAT I WANT, NOT WHAT WE NEED. THAT I WANT A SECOND CONTAINER. IT'S, I WANT, I'LL TAKE THE SECOND CONTAINER, BUT I WANT IT PICKED UP ON A DIFFERENT DAY OF THE, THIS ONE'S PICKED UP 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE EMPTY THAT. SO I THINK, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE. I'M NOT GONNA SAY EVERYBODY. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE MET THROUGHOUT. AND I DO GET TO MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND LAST THREE MONTHS WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. BUT THE SECOND CONTAINER HAS BEEN A SUBJECT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WELL, THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR ME, BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE MISSED TWO YEARS. MR. AL, YOU HAVE ONE OTHER THING. UH, YES, SIR. I THINK THE LESSON LEARNED IS ESSENTIALLY SHAREHOLDER STAKE. THE COMMITTEE WELL INTENTIONED, VERY, VERY NICE PEOPLE. BUT THAT SAID, MANY AREN'T RESIDENTS OF UNIVERSAL CITY. AND I, I THINK THE MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE IS WE DIDN'T GO TO THE SHAREHOLDERS AND GET THIS INFORMATION THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GETTING BILLING EVERY MONTH. A SIMPLE SURVEY WOULD'VE, WOULD'VE HELPED IF WE UNDERSTOOD IT. NOW, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT ESSENTIALLY THE COUNCIL WOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT, UH, TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WAS PROPOSED. AND, AND THAT GOES, UM, BACK TO THE TWO DECEMBER MEETINGS. VERY CLEAR THAT TONIGHT WE DECIDE, UH, SO, [02:15:01] UH, I, I, I THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION. I HOPE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PROCESS IMPROVEMENT. UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT GAINS IN WHAT EITHER WAY WE GO. BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, CLOSE WITH, UH, SUPPORTING MR. COLBY'S, UH, A MOTION. WELL WITH THAT, UH, MAYOR PROTE MEETING, NOTHING WITH THAT. I'D LIKE TO, UH, CALL FOR THE VOTE FOR THE VOTE IS FOR TWO A WEEK, ONE WEEK RECYCLING, AND ONE WEEK WITH, UH, BULK TR UH, TRASH, OR EXCUSE ME, BRUSH AND BULK. AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE CONTRACT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK THE MOTION, YEAH, THE CITY MANAGER TO, WITH THE, AND ALSO WITH THE, WITH THE WASTE HAZARD, HAZARDOUS WASTE OR HAZARDOUS WASTE AMOUNT. SORRY, HAZARD. THE HAZARDOUS WASTE, THE DOLLAR 10 ADDED TO IT. SO THE CALL FOR THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER GOLDSBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. MOTION CARRIED. I APPROVE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT IS, UM, 8 45. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A, LET'S TAKE AN EIGHT, UH, 10 MINUTE BREAK. IT'S TIME TO TIME TO TO RECONVENE. TIME TO RECONVENE. WE LEFT SOME DOORS OPEN, SO WE LOST SOME PEOPLE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT WAS A GREAT BREAK BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I HAVE A NEW CAR. IT IS 8 55. WE'RE CALLING BACK TO ORDER. IS THAT A, IS THAT FOR A MERCEDES? BECAUSE I'LL TAKE IT. IT'S FOR A LINCOLN. I'M NOT REALLY. OH, THAT'S MINE. IF IT'S NOT A MUSTANG. IF IT'S NOT MUSTANG, I'M NOT, I'M NOT REALLY A FORWARD GUY. HOW ON EARTH DID YOUR KEYS GET LOST? I ARE THEY ACTUALLY YOURS? WE, I THOUGHT LITTLE CONE. I HAVE A LONG, WE DO NEED THE SAFETY CONE. WE'RE GONNA PUT CONE BACK ON YOUR DIETS THERE, MISS. OKAY. IS THAT WATER IN YOUR DRINK? . LET'S MOVE ON NOW. BACK TO ORDER AT, UH, 8 55. OKAY, LET'S GO TO ITEM C. AWARD BID FOR THE PHASE 1, 20 23 STREET BOND RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, MAYOR COUNSEL. UM, THE LONG AWAITED 2023 STREET BOND IS HERE. UH, WE WENT OUT AND PUT OUT FOR PHASE ONE OF THIS PROJECT, UM, WHICH THIS YEAR WE HAD BUDGETED, UH, 5 MILLION, 600,000 FOR THIS. UH, THE OTHER PORTION WAS IN THE DESIGN FEE OF THE 6 MILLION. UH, SO THIS YEAR WE ARE PROPOSING IN PHASE ONE PACKAGE, IF YOU REMEMBER, UH, WE PUT OUT ABOUT 10 STREETS, CHURCHWOOD, UH, CROSS WOOD DRIVE, GAMBLE, WOOD INKS, WOOD LOGS, WOOD MEDICINE, ROCK, OLD CONVERSE ROAD, PERSIA DRIVE, TRAVIS, AND THE 600 BLOCK OF WEST WRIGHT. UH, WHEN WE ADVERTISED THOSE STREETS, UH, WE HAD SEVEN BIDDERS THAT SUBMITTED THEIR BIDS, UH, WITH, UH, BROOKS, UH, PAVING, UH, WHICH WAS OUR, UH, BROOKS PAVING AND CONSTRUCTION. LLC WAS OUR LOW BIDDER. UH, THEY CAME IN AT A BID OF $2,794,286 AND 14 CENTS. UH, WE DID EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND. UH, AS YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL SAW THE BIDS, UH, THEY WERE THE LOWEST BIDDER. UH, WE HAVE NEVER WORKED WITH BROOKS PAVING EITHER. SO WE DID, I HAVE MY ENGINEERS, UM, BOTH HERE FROM HDR. UM, WE HAD JM GONZALEZ AND HOCH, UH, SHIN FROM HDR AS WELL, UH, THAT ALSO DID THEIR REVIEWS WITH A OFFICE IN, IN CORPUS. UH, 'CAUSE THIS COMPANY IS IN ROBS TOWN. UH, SO, UH, THEY DID A REVIEW OF, UH, TALKING TO THEIR OFFICE, UH, TALKING TO, UH, CITY OF CORPUS THAT WHERE THIS COMPANY'S DONE WORK. UH, WE HAD SEVERAL INTERVIEWS WITH THEM, UH, AND THEY'VE ANSWERED EVERYTHING. WE'VE HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD FEEDBACK. THEY CAME BACK ON 'EM, UH, NOTHING TO REALLY SHOOT THEM DOWN, UH, BASED ON THEIR BID, UH, BECAUSE WE DID SEE THAT IT WAS QUITE LOW. I ACTUALLY, WHEN WE OPENED THE BID, I CAME UP AND ASKED THEM, YOU'RE SIGNIFICANT LOWER THAN THE NEXT BID. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR BID? THEY WERE, UH, REAL COMFORTABLE WITH IT. SO, UM, I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE NEXT BIDDER, WHICH WAS EASY BELL. UH, BUT BASED ON OUR REVIEW, UH, ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT, UH, HOACH AND JM GOT BACK AND THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE TO REALLY SHOOT DOWN THEIR BID, UH, BASED ON THEIR PRICING. SO TONIGHT WE ARE, ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, OF THE LOW BASE BID IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,000,900, 202,794,286 AND 14 CENTS TO BROOKS PAVING FOR THE PHASE ONE, UH, STREET [02:20:01] BOND RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND. ANY CONVERSATION, MR. SHELBY? SHELBY, I HAVE A I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS. NO, ACTUALLY I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, I, I DID NOT DO THE ANALYSIS ON THIS, SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU PROBABLY DID. WHERE, WHERE ARE THEY MAKING UP THE COST DIFFERENCE? IS IT IN MATERIALS OR IS IT IN LABOR? YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT. IT'S THEIR, IT'S THEIR PRICING THAT THEY GOT FROM THEIR SUPPLIERS, YOU KNOW, MATERIAL. THEIR LABOR'S PROBABLY LOWER. UM, THE MOBILIZATION IN SOME AREAS WOULD LOWER. UM, THEY ARE USING SOME, UH, LIKE THE CONCRETE, UH, CURBING GUY'S GONNA BE A COMPANY OUT IN THE BRAUNFELS THAT THEY'RE, UH, USING. UH, BUT, UM, BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE DISCUSSED, UH, THEY WERE COMPETITIVE IN PRETTY MUCH A LOT OF THE ITEMS IN THIS BID. SO, UM, THEY WEREN'T THAT FAR OFF. I MEAN, THEY WERE 800,000 OFF FROM THE NEXT BIDDER. BUT, UM, YEAH, I JUST, I MEAN, I NOTICED A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS LIKE, UM, EXCAVATION IS, WAS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL DROP BETWEEN THEM AND THE NEXT VENDOR AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. SO I WAS JUST GENERALLY WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY CONCERN. I MEAN, I, I THINK YOU WOULD'VE MENTIONED THEM, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT AGAIN. IF THERE WAS ANY CONCERNS OF AREAS WHERE THEY MAY BE CUTTING COSTS THAT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE TOTAL, UH, IMPACT, MAYBE NOT ON THE TOTAL PROJECT, BUT MAYBE PARTS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF THAT WE MAY FEEL LATER. I DIDN'T SEE ON THE LEADING ONTO MY ENGINEERS. DID Y'ALL JAM, DID YOU SEE ANYTHING? UH, ONE THING THAT I DID NOTICE AS I WAS COMPARING THE ENGINEER AS ESTIMATE, OH, SORRY. UH, ONE THING THAT I DID SEE, UM, AS I WAS COMPARING THE ENGINEER ESTIMATE TO THE, TO THEIR COST, THERE WAS ABOUT A $500,000, UM, LESS COST FOR REMOVAL ITEMS, EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, WHICH DOESN'T, UM, HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MATERIALS, RIGHT? IT WAS THE REMOVAL CURB, THE REMOVAL, THE REMOVAL OF THE ASPHALT, THE REMOVAL OF THE, UH, THE EXCAVATION. SO THERE'S NO MATERIAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUT EVEN WITH THAT, YOU'RE SAVING ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. SO THAT TO ME, MAKES ME COMFORTABLE. I THINK, UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE AN IDEA AS TO WHERE MAYBE THEY HAVE A GOOD PLACE TO HAUL IT OFF. YOU KNOW, THAT'S USUALLY WHERE THERE'S SOME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS BETWEEN THE ENGINEERS ESTIMATE AND THEIR ESTIMATE. OKAY. AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT MATERIAL RELATED. I, I, AND THAT, AND THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I THINK IF THERE IS A COST SAVINGS INVOLVED IN THE TAKE TAKEAWAY, THE TEAR DOWN AND TAKEAWAY. YEAH. AND NOT SO MUCH IN THE REBUILD PORTION, LIKE THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE NEW LAYERING, UH, THE NEW ASPHALT, THE NEW CURBS, EVERYTHING IN THERE IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO EVERYBODY ELSE. AND AS YOU SAID, THEY'RE MORE THAN LIKELY GETTING A DEAL ON WHERE THEY'RE DELIVERING THEIR REFUSE. YEAH. AND ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I WAS GONNA POINT OUT WITH THE MOBILIZATION, THAT'S TYPICALLY A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL COSTS. THEY'RE ABOUT $200,000 CHEAPER. UM, CAN YOU DEFINE MOBILIZATION FOR ME? MOBILIZATION IS, UM, COMING TO THE SITE, MOBILIZING, BRINGING THEIR CREWS, BRINGING THEIR MATERIALS, THEIR EQUIPMENT. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE ESTIMATED INDUSTRY STANDARDS ABOUT 10% OF THE TOTAL COST. SO OF OUR COST A LITTLE BIT MORE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER COST. THEY CAME IN ABOUT $200,000 CHEAPER BECAUSE THEIR TOTAL BID WAS CHEAPER. AGAIN, INDUSTRY STANDARD IS ABOUT 10% OF THE TOTAL COST. SO BETWEEN THOSE REMOVAL ITEMS AND THE MOBILIZATION RIGHT THERE ALONE, YOU'RE ABOUT A $700,000 SAVINGS BETWEEN THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE AND THEIR ESTIMATE. OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SHE AND I DID YOU GO AHEAD, SHE YOUR GREEN LIGHT'S ON. MY GREEN LIGHT'S ON. YEAH, I WANNA COMMENT. OH, YOU SAID NO, . I'M SORRY. I MEANT, YES, . UM, DID YOU SET ANY EXPECTATION ON HOW MUCH OF THE WORK NEEDED TO BE DONE BY THE COMPANIES AND NOT FARMED OUT? NOT SUBCONTRACTED OUT, RIGHT. IN THE CONTRACT WE HAVE, THEY HAVE TO SELF PERFORM AT LEAST 50% OF THE WORK. OKAY. SO, YES. AND YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU GOT REVIEWS OUT OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR THIS GROUP. ARE THEY TRYING TO COME UP INTO THIS MARKETPLACE AND SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE A COMPETITIVE BID? YES. THEY'RE TRYING TO, THEY'RE TRYING TO COME OUT INTO THIS MARKET HERE. UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY, THEY'RE IN ROBS TOWN IS WHERE THEY'RE BASED AT. THEY DO A LOT OF WORK SOUTH IN THE CORPUS AREA. AND SO THEY ARE REACHING OUT IN THIS AREA TO DO, UH, BRANCH OUT. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. JUST ONE OF 'EM THAT, UH, THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME AND, AND HE NAILED IT. ONE OF 'EM WAS THE, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE REMOVAL OF THE CONCRETE, BUT THEN THERE WAS THE OTHER [02:25:01] ONE IS THE, UM, THE TREATING THE, THE LYME TREATMENT EIGHT INCHES, THE SUB BASE. THAT ONE'S QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN ANYTHING ELSE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HITTING AT $74,000. 70, YEAH. 74. UM, THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 210,000, 220,000, THOSE ARE, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY HEFTY DIFFERENCE. UM, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT MISSING SOMETHING IN THAT, THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, WE QUESTION THEM ON WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR ASPHALT FROM. YOU KNOW, BRON, TEXAS, WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE GET OUR ASPHALT FROM. WE MADE SURE IT WAS VERSION MIX, SO WE ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS, BUT LIKE EVEN ON THE HAUL OFF, A LOT OF MY CONTRACTORS, THEY DO THIRD PARTY TRUCKERS THAT BRING IT. SO THEY'RE PROBABLY DOING, I CAN ONLY ASSUME THEY'RE USING THEIR OWN TRUCKS TO SAVE COSTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. IT WAS JUST THAT ONE WAS ONE OF THOSE BIGGER ONES THAT'S JUST REALLY POPPED OFF THE PAGE TO ME. SO THAT WAS, I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. UH, IT'S STILL WELL WITHIN THE, THE RANGE OF, YEAH, THAT'S NOT GONNA, THAT'S NOT GOING TO DISQUALIFY THEM IN MY MIND. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOLSBY. AYE. MAYOR PROM FITZPATRICK AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY. AYE. MOTION CARRIED, APPROVED. MAYOR. YES. I'M SORRY. BEFORE YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. UH, AS YOU KNOW, RANDY HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, WE HAD 5.6 MILLION TO SPEND. AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE SPENDING QUITE A BIT LESS THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED, UH, FROM WHEN WE STARTED ON THESE PROJECTS THREE YEARS AGO. SO AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, RANDY AND THE ENGINEER WILL BE BACK AND THEY'LL IDENTIFY SOME OTHER POSSIBLE STREET PROJECTS THAT WE CAN GET DONE, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE LEFT. NOW, HERE'S WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, AND WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE PETITIONING US ON WHICH STREETS NEED TO BE DONE BECAUSE THE ENGINEER WILL DO THAT WORK. UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE ONE BIG STREET PROJECT. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE A MID MEDIUM STREET AND A SMALL STREET, OR A BUNCH OF SMALL STREETS. WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT AT THIS TIME, BUT WE WILL COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION AT OUR FIRST MEETING IN APRIL. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. UH, LET'S GO TO ITEM D, RESOLUTION 8 96 F 2026 AUTHORIZING CDBG GRANT APPLICATION FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2026. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, SECOND, CHILDREN. HE GOT IT. DISCUSSION, CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOLSBY AYE. MAYOR FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. MOTION CARRIED. CARRIED, APPROVED. E IS AN ECHO RESOLUTION. 9 6 6 20 26 DASH THREE AUTHORIZING AN EDC STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENT, UH, REIMBURSEMENT PROJECT AT RANDOLPH PLAZA. SHOPPING CENTER. CALL FOR MOTION, MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING 'CAUSE THEY HAVE IN THERE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE GONNA SPEND, BUT HOW MUCH ARE WE PROPOSING TO GIVE TO 'EM? THAT KIND OF STUFF. SURE. THE FIRST ONE IT WAS 17,000. CAN YOU 17. 17,000. SO ROUGHLY HALF. SO ROUGHLY HALF. RIGHT. AND HE, THE REASON THEY, UH, CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION WAS, UM, BECAUSE HE TALKED, THE OWNER TALKED ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT HE'S GONNA BE, UH, PUTTING INTO THE CENTER ABOUT $10,000 MORE THAN THE 35,000. SO, AND HOW MANY STOREFRONT GRANTS HAS THIS PARTICULAR OWNER RECEIVED? BECAUSE I REMEMBER SEVERAL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. YEAH. SO THEY DID RECEIVE ONE BACK IN, I THINK IT WAS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR. UH, THEY'VE ALREADY COMPLETED THAT PROJECT. AND BEFORE THAT, I'M NOT REALLY SURE. I THINK THIS THE SIGN RIGHT? AND THEN THE, THE THINGIES OVER THE DOORS? YES. WHATEVER'S CALLED YES SIR. ABOUT TWO OR THREE OTHER PROGRAMS SINCE WE STARTED THE STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. UH, UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, IT, IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT, UH, TALKING TO RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PAST AND THEY, THEY, THEY IDENTIFIED THE SHOPPING CENTERS A FOCUS FOR THE COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY WHEN, UH, UH, BEFORE MY TIME HERE, WHICH HAS BEEN 40 YEARS, APPARENTLY THERE WERE AWNINGS OUT OVER, UH, THE AREA IN, IN THE, AND THE, UH, STORE OWNERS WOULD BRING THEIR PRODUCTS OUT. AND SO IT WAS SORT OF A MILL ISH, UH, OF, OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE. AND IT'D BE SORT, IT'D BE SORT OF NICE TO GET THAT COMMUNITY FEEL IN THAT, UM, UH, UH, SHOPPING AREA AGAIN. I AND I THANK YOU. CALL FOR THE VOTE. [02:30:01] COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. MAYOR PROAM FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOLSBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN, NO. MOTION CARRIED. CARRIED. ITEM F RESOLUTION 9 6 6 20 26. FOUR AUTHORIZING EDC STOREFRONT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT 9 0 4. PAT BOOKER ROAD CREATED TROPHIES AND GIFTS FOR MOTION? SURE. UM, OH, YOU WANTED, OH, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION FIRST? YEAH. SORRY. OR NOT GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. WE'LL, WE'LL GET A MOTION . UH, SO, UH, TO CUT TO THE CHASE HERE, THE EDC HAS, UM, AGREED TO, UH, REIMBURSE THEM THE FULL AMOUNT, AND THAT'S $4,934 AND 32 CENTS. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND DISCUSSION, CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. MAYOR PERTON FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GBE AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MON AYE. MOTION CARRIED. APPROVED. ITEM H, ORDINANCE NUMBER 6 3 9 C CHAR, UH, 2026 ANNEX A TRACT OF LAND TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 70. UH, NO GG OH, I'M SORRY, MY MIND WENT DOWN. MY APOLOGIES. ITEM NUMBER G, RESOLUTION 9 66. 2 0 2 6 DASH FIVE AUTHORIZING EDC START FOR IMPROVEMENT. A REIMBURSEMENT PROJECT, 9 3 2 CORONADO BOULEVARD FOR STOP AND PLAY. UH, SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE PROJECT AND THIS CON THIS, UH, INCLUDES SIGNAGE AS WELL AS WINDOW TINTING. UH, FOR THAT TENANT SPACE, UH, THAT TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO SPEND BASED ON THE QUOTES IS $17,850 AND 10 CENTS. THE EDC AGREED TO REIMBURSE THEM $12,000. OKAY. DISCUSSION. OH, CALL FOR REMOTE. A CALL. OH, MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND DISCUSSION. YEAH, THIS ONE. UH, JUST REAL QUICK. YEAH. THIS ONE IS REALLY, UH, COOL. THERE'S A LOT MORE INSIDE THAT THEY'RE DOING AS FAR AS JUST THE, THE ENTIRE DECORATIONS AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE CHASING FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR LITTLES. SO IT WAS A, IT'S A, IT'S A BIGGER INVESTMENT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS WAS JUST A SMALL PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE. CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOLDSBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. MAYOR PROTON FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. MOTION CARRIED. APPROVED. OKAY. NOW ITEM H UM, ORDINANCE NUMBER NINE, UH, 6 39 C 2026. ANNEXATION OF TRACTOR LAND TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 73.67 ACRES, NORTHEAST CORNER OF FM 1518 NORTH AND MASSEY ROAD. ANY CALL FOR MOTION? MOVE FOR APPROVAL. I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION NOW. REMEMBERING THAT THIS IS THE ITEMS. THE NEXT, THIS FROM THE NEXT TWO ARE THE ONES THAT YOU HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON. SO THIS IS THE ANNEXATION FOR THE PROPERTY. UM, ORCHARD PARK. UH, WHISPERING CREEK. WHISPERING CREEK. OKAY. CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUTT AYE. MAYOR PROTIME FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOLSBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL SUE SWAYED BY MS. TURNER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. MOTION CARRIED. ITEM AYE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 6 32 PC 6 34 FLOP 2026 AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO MD MEDIUM DENSITY. UH, FOR THIS AREA LAND APPROXIMATELY 4.13 ACRES PLUS MINUS LOCATED WITHIN THE LARGER TRACTABLE LAND. APPROXIMATELY OF 73.7 ACRES. CALL FOR A MOTION, MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND DISCUSSION. CALL FOR THE VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOLSBY AYE. MAYOR PROTON FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. MOTION CARRIED, APPROVED. ITEM J, ORDINANCE NUMBER 5 8 1 Y PUT 20 26 1 0 1 AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR APPROXIMATELY 73.67 ACRES AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FM 78 AND [02:35:01] MASSEY ROAD FROM R ONE LARGE LOT RE, UH, RESIDENTIAL TO P 20 26 1 0 1 DISTRICT AND ADOPTING A RELATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND POD. FINAL PLAN PER ZONING. ORDINANCE FIVE EIGHT ONE. CALL FOR MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND DISCUSSION. CALL FOR A VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER PUT AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHELBY AYE. MAYOR PERAM FITZPATRICK. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOLSBEE. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER RUBAL AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VAUGHN AYE. MOTION CARRIED, APPROVED. UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I DO APPRECIATE TONIGHT'S WE GOT RATHER COUNT ALONG. I THANK YOU. MADE SOME GOOD CALLS THIS EVENING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I KNOW IT'S SOME, SOMETIMES IT WAS OUTSIDE THE, YOUR NORMAL DIS UH, LIKES AND DISLIKES, BUT SOMETIMES I UNDERSTAND THAT HAPPENING. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. IT IS NINE 14. MEETING, ADJOURN. I SAID NINE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.